Back-flush Component Costs Query

Dear Experts,
I want to have a report to display to me the components costs of items where issue method is backflush on production order.
My stock valuation method is moving average and would like to get the exact component cost for that specific production order.
Regards,

Thanks Nagarajan,
I have checked the Query and it doesn't work for me.
What I am looking for is to get the costs of components whose issue method is defined as back-flush. I am aware i can create a UDF on the production order and use a FMS to get the cost at that point the order was raised, but i want to explore if i can get the information i want without doing that.
See attached samples and below illustration:
ItemCode
Item Name
Issued Quantity
Cost per Unit
Production Order No
LM4029MC
LeMon 4029 500 sheet paper drawer
5
13
152
LM4029MC
Memory Chip
10
20
152

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I have activated backflush in routing but when i am confirming the order goods movement screen is blank so i went to co02 and saw the BOM here backflush is not activted so i checked the backflush box and saved the order and again when i went to confirmation goods movement screen is availble with 261 movement.
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