Backup Controlfile - Lost information?

Hello guys,
if i made a backup of my controlfile, the following way:
ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE to 'location';Which information is getting lost (SCNs,etc) , if i create a backup controlfile? As far as i know it is not possible to perform a complete recovery with a backup controlfile - am i right?
Is there any difference between a "backup controlfile" and a creation of a new controlfile out of a "controlfile to trace"?
Maybe you have got some oracle documents or something else which describes that.
Thanks and Regards
Stefan

Using a backup controlfile in any recovery situation means you will have to open the database with a resetlogs operation -but that doesn't mean you've just performed an incomplete recovery! In other words, a complete recovery with a backup controlfile is not a problem, but it will be performed a little differently from a "normal" complete recovery.
If, for example, you lost all your controlfiles and one of your datafiles, you would restore the datafile from backup and you'd maybe restore a binary backup of the controlfile, too. The recovery would be 'recover database until cancel using backup controlfile', and you'd type 'cancel' once the last bit of redo had been applied from the current online log. You'd then 'alter database open resetlogs'. Despite the resetlogs, however, you'd have recovered every single committed transaction and the database would have been rolled forward to the time of the datafile loss... and those things are the hallmarks of a complete recovery.
If you 'backup controlfile to 'somewhere/filename', that's an exact binary copy of the current controlfile, so nothing whatsoever is lost. The reason for having to do the 'until cancel', however, in a recovery situation is simply that the copy of the controlfile has a bit set in it that means 'I have no idea what redo has been generated after this time, so the user will have to tell you when to stop applying it'.
It's that bit which makes the big difference between a binary backup of the controlfile and the backup of script instructions on how to re-create the file. A recovery performed by running the 'controlfile to trace' to create a new controlfile does NOT need to say 'using backup controlfile' (because it isn't: it's a new controlfile, not a backed up copy of one from the past), and it doesn't need to use the 'until cancel' syntax because it knows what the last piece of redo to be applied is: running the script causes SMON to consult the headers of all the datafiles and the contents of each of the online redo logs: the largest SCN found will then be assumed to be the 'age' of the database and the point at which recovery has to stop.

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    You are running adtcfctl.sh version 115.14
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    Variable Size          1493172224 bytes
    Database Buffers     5324800000 bytes
    Redo Buffers          10760192 bytes
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    Redo Buffers          10760192 bytes
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    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_22_699l4w5r_.arc        1215730     1215733
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_29_699s5vw2_.arc        1224987     1224990
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_19_699l4or0_.arc        1215721     1215724
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_25_699s5qd6_.arc        1224966     1224969
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_30_699s5yvs_.arc        1224990     1224999
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_27_699s5stf_.arc        1224972     1224975
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_32_69b2hgvz_.arc        1225003     1241003
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_17_699k5oxl_.arc        1194778     1209476
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_16_699jsxol_.arc        1174511     1194778
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_20_699l4rx2_.arc        1215724     1215727
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    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_18_699l4msq_.arc        1209476     1215721
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_14_6987mljx_.arc        1162149     1174393
    /u02/fra/RCAT/archivelog/2010_09_18/o1_mf_1_31_699s61sr_.arc        1224999     1225003
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