Bank Charges in F110
Hi Everybody,
We want to post the bank charges,while executing F110 transaction.
We have tried with 'Expenses/Charges' in FBZP,but of no use,as its only ment for printing purpose.
We found from this forum that 'Instruction Key' will take care of this requirement,but we are not able to proceed further due to lack in knowledge in creation of 'Instruction Key'( about the field that has to updated while creating the Instruction Key).
Can any one let me know,how can we go further in respect to "Bank Cahrges" with F110.
Thanks for you time and patience.
Regards,
Hi,
In case of bank charges to be paid to banker, there is no need to issue a cheque to the bank, since bank will directly debit to your bank account. (Will be taken care by BRS)
But if any bank charges liable to pay for any outgoing payments, those also will be handled at the time of reconciliation only.
Please tell me your exact requirement in detail, so that we might help you.
Thanks,
Srinu
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Bank charges on Vendor invoices to be borne by Vendor during F110- How ?
Hi FICO Gurus,
I have a scenario as below.
While doing F110, for some vendors my client wants the bank charges(Wire/TT charges) to be deducted from the invoice amount.
For instance if I have to pay USD 1000 to ABC vendor, for the relevant wiretransfer/Telegraphic transfer say USD 10 is chaged by the bank. I need the bank to charge the amount from the vendor and pay them only USD 990 and take the USD10 towards their commission rather than charging it to my account.
Is there an indicator in the Vendor master or FBZP config with which I can achieve the above explained requirement ?
Thanks in advance for your time.
Dasaradh.R.BoreddyHi,
I assume we are talking about a DME-file sent to the bank. When using formats derived from MT101, you can specify in a tag who will bear the charges.
Example: W1SE Corporate e-Banking CASH MANAGEMENT SWIFT,
Tag:
:71A: M Details of Charges
This field specifies which party will bear the applicable charges for the subsequent transfer of funds.
Usage rules:
One of the following codes must be used:
BEN: All transaction charges, including the charges of the financial institution servicing the ordering customeru2019s
account, for the subsequent credit transfer are to be borne by the beneficiary customer.
OUR: All transaction charges for the subsequent credit transfer are to be borne by the ordering customer.
SHA: All transaction charges other than the charges of the financial institution servicing the ordering customer
account are borne by the beneficiary customer.
There will be similar rules in place regarding the DME exchange you do with your bank.
Hope this helps,
Kind regards,
Rudolf -
Bank charges to be borne by payer and receiver equally - A/cing entry F110
Hello Gurus,
As per our client requirement bank charges need to be borne equally by the payer and the receiver, we want to know how the accounting entry gets reflected in SAP while doing a "Automatic Payment Program thru F110".
Assume that Vendor payment is 10050 and 100 are bank charges, which need to be borne by the payer and the receiver on agreed proportions.(Assumed at 50% in this example)
Entry for bank charges amount to be bifurcated in SAP as below.
Vendor a/cu2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026..10000u2026u2026u2026.Dru2026u2026..(Outgoing Payment)
Bank Charges a/c (With Vendor)u2026u2026u2026u202650u2026u2026u2026....Dru2026u2026 (Account Determination)
Bank Commission / Expense a/c (Self)u2026.50u2026u2026u2026u2026Dru2026u2026..(Account Determination)
Bank GL a/cu2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026.10100u2026u2026u2026Cru2026u2026..(Account Determination)
My concern is how the actual vendor invoice of 10050 will be cleared when 10000 is payed to the vendor. Appreciate your suggestions.Hi,
As per my understanding accounting entry should be:
Vendor a/cu2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026..10050u2026u2026u2026.Dru2026u2026..(Outgoing Payment)
Bank Charges a/c (With Vendor)u2026u2026u2026u2026100u2026u2026u2026....Dru2026u2026 (Account Determination)
Bank Commission / Expense a/c (Self)u2026.50u2026u2026u2026u2026cru2026u2026..(Account Determination)
Bank GL a/cu2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026u2026.10100u2026u2026u2026Cru2026u2026..(Account Determination)
From this it is clear that vendor is liable pay 50 rupeee to us.
Please check and Confirm.
Note: so through F110 we will charge 100 as bank charge and manually we have to pass a debit memo to respective vendors.
Thanks and Regards
Binoj M D -
F110 bank charges where to maintain??
Dear Expert,
I am configuring the automatic payment and client required that the bank charges bear by which party will depend on the transaction. I know that I could maintain the instruction key on vendor master data to inform SAP whether bank charges is deduct from beneficiary account or payer account.
However, for example, for overseas transfer the client need to pay USD10 for bank charges, I mainatained the instruction key 13 on the vendor master data that it pay by beneficiary account. But where to maintain in SAP the USD 10 so when I run F110 the USD 10 bank charge will deduct from the total amount pay and post it to bank charges account?
Thanks
MaxHi Zubin,
As far as I know the setting you suggested is only for pritning on the form and no bank charges poting will be carried on. Further more, the setting is only allowed to maintain one currency for bank charges but my problem is the bank charges could be in different currencies.
Dear other experts,
If you have better solutions appreciate you could share with me.
Thank you. -
Bank charges for Japan when run F110
FB05 would automatically run at the same time run F110 in despite of C1 (Instruction Key )or C2(Instruction Key ) . If Instruction Key is C2, it will have bank charges line item in FI documents produced by FB05, if Instruction Key is C1, it will not have bank charges in FI documents produced by FB05.
in SAP PRD system, it works good. and we have TS2 system copying from PRD include transaction datas and configurations. we changed bank charges in TS2 and test, found that FB05 would not automatically run at the same time run F110. don't know why?
thanks in advance.Hi Ruby,
Check whether the customization in your system is to your requirement or not.
Go to SPRO
Financial Accounting (New)->Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable->Business Transactions->Outgoing Payments->Automatic Outgoing Payments->Payment Media->Data Medium Exchange->Define Instructions for Payment Transactions.
and check for the Permitted Instruction Field & Instruction.
If not yet solved..revert back
Regards
Andrew -
Dear All,
My client would like to send DD (Demand draft) to vendor and bank charges are bing made by my client. So, to be able to achieve in SAP Configuration where i have to configure (In FBZP) or where else.
they are using APP (F110) how the bank chareges are picked up from APP.
Poings will be assigned.
With best regards
Venkat.Hi,
setup for debiting bank charges while carrying out F110 payment runs, Instead, I'd used the fields in the House Bank (txn FI12 under Data medium exchange section for Charges account).
Here you specify the Bank no. and the account no. at that bank, which will tell your Bank from which account to debit the charges. What is noteworthy here is that F110 was not used to debit charges, rather instructions were sent to the Bank (via DME) to debit charges (based upon pre-defined and agreed upon rates & categories, etc.).
To complete the setup, there's another field we were using - Control Key in the same section just below the Charges Bank no. and account no. This field has specific usage in some countries (check F1 help on this field), and for all other countries, you can use the field for any account-specific information. We used this to send an indicator to our Bank specifying on what terms to debit charges - like, sending party pays charges, receiving party pays charges, or charges are borne equally by both sending and receiving party.
Sending party - Payer of Funds
Receiving party - Beneficiary of Funds
For your original approach, I hope you've done the settings in txn OBXK - Maintain FI config. - automatic postings for bank charges. The system posts the charges amount you specify for a bank item when settling payment to these accounts. The bank charges accounts must be defined as relevant to cash flow.
Regards,
Viswa -
for payment method T, we do f110 payment, if the amount is 1000 USD, bank charge 5%, half (25 USD) will be paid by us, half (25 USD) will be paid by vendor
for payment method U, if the payment amount is 2000 USD, bank charge will be fixed 20 USD regardless of amount, and paid by US
how can i customize the bank charge in the system, thanksHi Jolin,
Can you please specify how are you sending the payment details to bank?
Thanks and Regards,
Gaurav -
Bank charge on transaction automatic payment
Hi Guru
I would like to know set post automatic bank charge on transaction automatic payment (t code F110) such as
dr. vendor
dr. bank charge
cr. bank clearing
how I can do. thank you very muchDear,
Please go through the link below
bank charges in app -
Bank Charges at the time of APP
Hi All / lakshmi,
How to book bank charges at the time of automatic payment f110
Where I need to mention these bank charges?
following config. have been done for bank charge...
1. Go to FBZP. Click on Bank Determination. Select company code and click on Expenses and Charges. we have defined charges Indicator and Amount Limit.
2. Besides this, we have to assign the GL Account in Following customizing
FBKP > Automatic Postings > Bank Transactions > BSP Key and Enter the GL Account for Bank Charges.
i have mention bank charges indicator 6, amount limit and limit charge,and all even same indicator ihave mention in bank accounts : 6
but still charges not posting...
Can you please help me?
u can post the reply in ur string only.
manoj S.Hi,
the payment program does not post the bank charges.
The charges you customize in the payment program are used to be
printed in the payment form, but not posted. If you check the
documentation for the charges in trans. FBZP you can read the
following:
' Form charges
Specifies the amount which should be printed as a charge rate
on the payment form.
Regards,
Attila -
Different Bank charges GL account for two company codes with same COA
Hi,
While configuring OBXK ( Automatic GL account for bank charges) , I see there is provision to enter only one GL account per chart of accounts.
We have two company codes using same chart of accounts but different bank charges GL account. Please tell me how to configure this.
Thanks,
sureshHi,
Thanks Krishnan and Chandra.
I agree with you it could be the same GL account for bank charges, but the business requirement is such that in one of the two company codes, bank charges are required to be tracked separately to be subsequently transferred to the other company code. This means two separate GL accounts are required for two company codes which needs to be configured in OBXK.
Hope this clarifies my query further.
thanks,
suresh -
Vendor payment with bank charges
hai,
I want to make a payment to Vendor with bank charges. Like for ex. Vendor Bill amount is Rs.1000.00, i want to issue a cheque for Rs.980.00 and Bank charges Rs.20.00 so total amount Rs.1000.00 to be adjusted against bill. How do achieve this?
govind.Hi,
I think u r talking about Bills of exchange.
Cehck the link - http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/FIBP/FI-AP-AP-BE.pdf
Regards,
Sridevi
<i><b>Pls. assign points</b></i> -
Bank Charges on outgoing payment
Currently using SAP 8.8 PL 14
Question: On outgoing payments through Bank or RTGS there is some charges deduct by bank on these services. presently these charges are not showing in bank books.
we are punching service entries extra for bank charges.
is there any solution to charge the same within single entry.
Regards
HumraajHi Humraaj,
please have a look at the article below for a workaround:
[Business One in Action - How can we post bank fees and charges while posting Incoming or Outgoing Payment transactions?|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/b08e828f-f2d0-2c10-41b1-dbb0b9943ee8]
All the best,
Kerstin -
Bank Charge for Outgoing payment. Any workaround
Hi,
Has anyone develop solution for the Bank Charges in Outgoing payment ?
Under Incoming Payment, there is a bank charge field which is will post together with the amount received from customer.
We would like to have the same function in Outgoing Payment and automatically post in Journals. How can SDK help ?Hi ,
Try this work around for bank charges involved while making payments.
Example
Amount due to supplier-10000
Bank charges - 100
Total payment - 10100
1)Go to outgoing payment screen/type the vendor and select the invoice of 10000.
2)Go to payment means and against bank column enter 10100
3)In payment means in row two type bank charges for 100
The system will throw an error saying bank charges is not cash account.still u can post the entry.
The accounting entry will be
Supplier a/c Debit - 10000
To bank a/c Credit -10100
To Bank charges a/c credit - (100)
(instead of debiting bank charge expenses it is crediting the charges in negative figure / impact is same) -
Payment engine, bank charge and outgoing payment
Hi expert !
My customer wants to generate foreign outgoing payment, with Payment Wizard.
We're french, so I created payment mode, and I choosed File format : SAPBPFROPBT_AFB_FO
In case of outgoing payment file protocol, we must specify who paid Bank charge :
13 : supplier
14 : half us, half supplier
15 : us
By default, Payement engine's generate file with bank charge = 14. And, of course, my custommer wants bank charge = 13.
I wrote bank charge = 13 on BP Master Data, and I can See bank charge = 13 in OPEX table (I try all fields - InstruckKey - pymKeyCode - PeyRefDTLS - and of course PYLBCACode).
But Payment engine still generate a file with bank charge = 14.
In payment engine Help, customizing bank charge is explained for all regional options, but not for france.
Please, do you know how can I have a file with bank charge = 13 ?
Thanks,
Pierre-yvesHi,
Bank charges and Overdraft fees will not be an open item account.
But your bank clearing account will be an open item account.
Error may be due to the incorrect posting rule defined.
Regards
SM -
Bank Charges - Outgoing Payment
Hi All,
Customer want to post an entry in outgoing payment, which is not a cheque but he wants to take Demand Draft. Hence he has to add bank charges in the outgoing payment along with normal outstanding amount.
Vendor outstanding is Rs. 10,000
Bank Charges is Rs. 250
total cheque to be issued is for Rs.10250/- by debiting Rs.250/- to bank charges GL account.
Can any one extend help on this.
Regards
N.Narayana SwamyHI
Kindly follow the following procedure for the Demand draft.
Create a demand draft account in current asset.
Pass outgoing payment entry to demand draft account, it should be
Demand draft A/c. Dr 10000
Bank charges A/c. Dr 250
To, Bank a/c. Cr. 10250
while priniting of this cheque through checks for payment in pay to field you can write "Yourself Account" which is requre by bank on cheques while applying for Demand draft or pay order.
then pass one more outgoing payment entry to vendor
and in that entry in payment means instead of bank account select demand draft account.
This is the best accounting practice.
Regards
Kamlesh Vagal
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