Batch Capture Skips Out-point

Hello,
when I perform a batch capture of HDV material, Adobe Premiere Pro sort of ignores my set out-points. The capturing starts exactly at the in-point. However, the capturing stops not at the set out-point. Instead Premiere adds another 10 to 15 frames.
Does anybody knw this problem?
How can I get captured clips with the correct in- and out-point?
Klaus

See also:
FAQ:Why does HDV capture include more frames than I specified?
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Capturing beyond out point

I'm capturing HDcam footage with RS 422 timecode.
I set in and out points, create clip then batch capture.
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I've trashed my plist.
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Well, Dean. One thing you can do is check the capture settings and make sure that you have a frame rate selected. Otherwise the capture window won't recognize a video device.
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Cs3: batch capture in/out edits incorrect

OK - heres my problem. I have a hdv project which i captured dv files. Ive edited these in the timeline and now want to offline and batch capture as hdv. When i do this however many of the clips appear incorrectly on the timeline. they are slightly off the edits i made - starting several frames before where i made the cut.
To test it wasn't an error having dv clips in a hdv project i set up a dv project and captured some dv footage. Did some edits on the timeline ( not the program window ) then exported this section, imported it and placed above the edited section on the timeline( so i could use as a comparison ). I then right clicked the captured footage in the project panel - make offline, media files deleted. Then right clicked the captured footage in the project panel - batch capture and captured the footage again. When i compared the footage in the timeline against the saved export the edits were out of sync.
Not sure if this is at all clear an explanation but heres hoping.
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Hi Stan, thanks for the response. I'm sure your description is clear but ive been at this for 20 hours straight so pardon if i am confused. The hdv export has a matching picture/timecode with the Sony FX1E . ie the Premiere Source window of the file shows the same image at the same timecode as the camcorder viewfinder. Premiere is importing the right section. Well what it thinks is the right section. However this is not the section that was on the original timeline - i can see this by referring to the exported avi i now have on a layer which i use as a reference. I need to check to see if the dv file has the same in/out as the hdv. will need to test on other footage as previously i deleted the files on batch capture.
Am i following your suggestion correctly?
Another strange thing happened. I gave edl a go - exported from the project with dv. created a new hdv project and imported the list. Batch captured and still had the same problem - some match some dont. However i transferred to another pc and the same files which were matched on my laptiop were now not matched! How can this be? All i did was transfer the external hard drive ( scratch disc ) to a different pc , hooked the ppro file to them and more unmatching.

How do you batch reset in/out points

I have a large number of clips... I've done my extensive edit, and now wish to put all the clips on the timeline and burn a dvd copy of the raw footage.
Unfortunately when I grab all the clips and put them on a timeline to export, CS5 remembers all my individual in/out points, how do I reset this? Without having to go through all the clips individually?
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Jamie

I don't think there is a way to do this automatically/semi-automatically. You'd have to do it one by one.
Not too elegant, but just reimport all your clips (or create a new project and import them there) and drop them in a new sequence. They'll all come in without ins and outs.

When Batch Capturing, Final Cut doesnt notice Media Out points

I have logged about 20 clips with all of the in and out points set and correct. I have put them in a logging bin and choose batch capture and it begins the process just like usual. However now it wont stop when it comes to the out point of each clip the camera will just keep running until i cancel the batch capture. What could be wrong? any help would be great. thanks

You need more than one hard drive. Capturing to your system disk is not a good idea and will bite you.
The in/out ignoring issue could be a problematic QT install or a problem with the firewire protocol.
1. Make sure you are using the correct Firewire (Basic or std) for your camera/VTR first.
2. Make sure there is no interference between external hard drives on the firewire bus and your camera
3. Use the Apple QT7 reinstaller
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x

Batch Capture Randomly Changes In and Out Points

I'm editing a documentary on Final Cut Pro 5.0.
Using a SONY DSR-11 firewire deck.
I logged sets of clips and then batch captured them. I DIDN'T select add handles in the batch capture tool. Some clips, as they're captured, change their in and out points. Sometimes by two frames early, sometimes by two frames late, and sometimes not at all. Several clips even stopped captured with an out point twenty seconds earlier than what I'd logged. The result is that I have clips with media start and media end points that are not in what I wanted. There seems to be no rhyme or reason whatsoever to this.
Any ideas what's going on?
Many Thanks if you do!
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Check to see if your tapes have NDF time code.
If you play a tape with NDF TC using Log & Capture, the current time display will defaut to DF until the tape palys forward long enough for the current time field to update. It is posible to log NDF tapes as DF, in which case the timecode values can be incorrectly re-converted if recapturing.
Also, If you initiate a batch capture from the browser, FCP will default to DF, and not be able to update the TC format to NDF duriing the batch. The workaround here has been to cue up NDF tapes with L&C, and start the batch capture while L&C is still open and showing NDF TC.
However, upon upgrading to FCP5 last year, I found that even observing all these precautions and steps, FCP would still shorten the out point of my captured clips on NDF tapes. I was capturing a feature film that came from the UK, and so the starting time on the master was 10 hours instead of 1 hour. When the DF/NDF error occurred and shortened the out point of my 2-hour clip, it did it by several minutes instead of several seconds, because of the starting TC on the tape. In that case, I wound up adding several minutes to my out point and recapturing the end over again.
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No mark in and out points at batch capturing

I have created logged clips to my browser window but, noticed that the IN and OUT points say NOT SET.
Is this normal?
As I create the logged clips for batch capture shouldnt I see the IN and OUT times?

That's normal. When you set In and Out in the Log & Capture window, those points become Media Start and Media End in the Browser. And In and Out are left as Not Set.
The rationale is that once you've captured, you'll review your clips and place In and Out points more precisely. In case you do want to stick with Media Start and Media End as your In and Out, simply load the clip into the viewer and press X on your keyboard - that will set your In and Out (at Media Start & End) for your clip.
Now - you know there had to be one caveat - the only time this is not the case is when you check the box to Add Handles in the Batch Capture dialog. In that case, when FCP captures the clips, it extends the Media Start and Media End by the handle amount and uses the In and Out that you specified during logging as the In & Out for that clip in the Browser.

Mark a series of In Out Points before capture from DV tape?

When Using Adobe Premier Pro a few years back I seem to remember playing a tape all the way through, marking In/Out points, all the way along the tape, then going back to the beginning click Batch Capture ( or similar) and the machine would rewind the tape and run through again capturing just the relevant clips.
Can I do this in FCE?
I see I can do an individual clip, or the whole tape, but cant seem to find if I can do a batch capture?
If not, is it possible to set FCE to split the capture automatically after each scene , detect where the Record/stop button has been pressed when the film was taken and split there?
Sorry cant tell you what version at the moment, a capture is in progress. But I bought it about one month ago.
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Here's my computer stats:
G4 Powerbook
OS 10.4.11
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So far have done a workaround to digitize my DV elements through iMovie. Not pretty. I string together the selected/import clips (in this case from interviews), assemble them in sequential order on the time line with small breaks of black in between, then export the timeline as DVCPRO/DV-NTSC quicktime file. Take that file into my FCP then segment out the clips on the time line, make each segment an independent clip so that I can name them. Not pretty but it works - miss having the logging data going through FCP log and capture.
Still waiting for any other solution to my situation - thanks!
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I cut a lot of clips on a big file with the razor instead of marking in and out points and now I want to batch convert. How?
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Hi AK,
AngusKirk wrote:
I cut a lot of clips on a big file with the razor instead of marking in and out points and now I want to batch convert. How?
Adobe CS5.5
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Capture not ending on out point

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When's the last time you had the camera cleaned? Could be that it's got some dirt on the playback head where the TC is getting read, and just doesn't know when to stop...?
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Unable to locate timecode in batch capture

Hi there, I have been working on this problem for a while and would really appreciate some help.
I have a documentary project I have been working on for some time and have completed the EDL. I am now trying to batch capture the footage again in full res and am having problems with a couple of the tapes.
First the specs:
The video was shot on a Sony HDR-HC1 in HDV(1080) mode.
I am using this camera to capture the footage.
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Help! Batch Capture Changes My Logged Clips' Media Start & Media End

I'd be very grateful for any help on this.
I log a tape with about 40 clips ranging from 30 seconds to 4 minutes. I select the clips and start a batch capture. Everything appears to be capturing normally and I receive no error messages or dropped frame warnings - after my last clip is captured I get a "Successfully Captured" message.
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Here's an update on this. Both my colleague and I have confirmed that if we capture to an internal or external drive that is not a RAID FCPro batch captures just fine.
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