Battery drains differently, in different places. . .

so, it's obvious battery life on the 3GS is less than desired, but i've noticed in the past few weeks that the battery drains at different rates, in different places. does this happen to anybody else here?
for example, keeping 3G, wifi, and location services "on" with normal use (from a 100% charge in the morning), my battery retains power above 90% most of the day while i'm at home or walking/driving about (like on a weekend etc.). BUT when i'm at work, without having used the phone at all, my battery drops (from a 100% charge in the morning) to below 85% by noon time!
what the **** is going on here? why does my battery drain way more at work, without any use, than at home with normal use?

Exactly..And to piggy back on that 5 bars doesnt always mean a "quality " signal. If you look at the AT&T coverage map (which isnt always 100% acurate) and you are on the edge of a coverage area, it may or may not be a "quality" signal. Meaning the phone can pick up 4-5 bars but being on the edge of the coverage area can get interfearence from surrounding objects, like buildings etc...

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IPhone Battery Drain, 7.1.2, I Have A FIX!

Hello everyone! My name is Gabriel Chen and my iPhone has been having trouble with battery draining, and overheating. I'm here to tell you how to fix it. This is completely different from the rest of the posts because I've discovered something interesting and new.
Background (I'm a little long-winded, sorry. Just skip down to "What-to-Do" if you are pretty sure you've had the same problems as me):
I got my iPhone 5s when it first came out. It's battery life was amazing, then the fire nation attacked. Jokes aside, the battery became worthless about a month ago after I updated to 7.1.2. I thought the issue was 7.1.2, but now that I fixed it, I don't think it is. I took my phone into the apple store about a week ago because I was off to college and needed to fix this problem before I left. They ran diagnostics and found kbd and backboard errors. They immediately replaced it. I was happy because I had a brand new phone, but the battery issues came back, and this time even worse. My phone was burning up, even hotter and it even froze sometimes. I then took it to a store near my college–which was difficult because I have no car here–where they did a reset because that's what they always do. I sat there and played with the phone to make sure the problem wasn't there. Turns out it was still there. I love apple genius bar employees, but not all of them are very knowledgeable about the products and how they work. I don't blame them because: updates can always cause new problems, it's probably above their pay-grade to memorize what every single error code means, and they don't necessarily have knowledge that lets them troubleshoot any problems that involve hidden processes that their apple-issued easy-button diagnostic test doesn't tell them about.
I then approached another employee who helped me immensely. He knew something was wrong, which was awesome because most employees do tend to blow you off, so he decided he'd try to help me fix it. He had a lot more knowledge about the phone. This time he found kbd errors again so he replaced it. After that process, he disappeared into the back of the employee's only part of the store. I tried playing around with the phone, and it was clear that the problem persisted. I then went and got help again. This time, the new person who was helping me went to the back, and I waited around for about an hour and a half not knowing what was going on. The whole time, I was wondering where the first guy who helped me disappeared to. For the sake of convenience, the first person who helped me in this paragraph will be Ian, and the second will be Will. Will eventually came back out, this time bringing Ian along with him. Turns out Ian had been doing research for me in the back for the last 1.5 hours and found that the problem probably had to do with iCloud. My phone was draining and overheating due to its attempt to download some sort of data with no success. So each time it failed, it would retry over and over again. This explains the overheating and battery drainage. We deleted some stuff from iCloud and it got a lot better.
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What-to-Do
1. Go to Settings —> iCloud —> Delete Account
Don’t worry, as long as you click “keep the stuff” or whatever it says, you won’t lose stuff
2. See if your batter still drains by leaving it on and watching the battery. Touch it and see if it’s heating up. If your battery is draining 1% every 2 minutes, it definitely is still having problems. It’s your own choice, but even if it does drain, I would follow the next step anyways. If it doesn’t drain, the issue definitely had to do with iCloud. Now, log in once again.
3. Make sure all of the iCloud data that you care about is stored some where other than iCloud. For example, make sure your Pages files are on your computer.
4. Go to Settings —> iCloud —> Storage & Backup —> Manage Storage. Then delete the stuff under Documents and Data. I REPEAT, DO NOT DELETE WITHOUT FIRST MAKING SURE THE DATA IS ON YOUR COMPUTER IN SOME SHAPE OR FORM
Why? What is probably happening is that there is probably data that is trying to get onto your phone. This data is failing to do so which is causing an infinite loop of effort and failure which drains your battery and makes your phone work really hard. Apple should code a fail-safe into this to stop the loop, but they haven’t yet.
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6. If you’re still draining, go to Settings —> iTunes and App Store, and turn off SHOW ALL Music and Videos. What this feature does is it will display the purchased items that have not been downloaded, but are on your iTunes account, specifically Music and Videos, within the the corresponding apps. I understand that you probably like this feature and that you’re probably unhappy that I’m telling you to turn it off. This is a glitch or bug that Apple will probably come to fix if it comes to their attention eventually, so don’t worry. When they do fix it, you can turn these back on.
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Thought it had worked but soon found out it had not.
after further days of trying finally, solved it for me Yesterday.
turned off notifications when locked, and bingo, wow.
i have not turned off iCloud but location services are also off.
best thing to do I found was keep checking your usage, settings, general, usage, and flip down to bottom, if the standby and usage are similar there is a problem, if there is a big difference then all is ok. Just keep turning things off and on until the difference is very apparent.
something on my phone was keeping the phone alive even when turned off, and I think this was the phone repeatedly trying to update continually.
to me this is definitely down to the iOS, my wife has exactly same phone and iOS but hers doesn't have any problem and the battery lasts for days.
the guy at the Genius Bar told me to restore the phone via iTunes, not iCloud. This is because iCloud remembers the exact info from your phone and simply reinstates it when you restore, and this includes the iOS too.
when I get home from holidays that's what I'll do, or wait for iOS 8 in few weeks. But I'm so pleased I finally made it work, I was beginning to think ditch the phone and buy Samsung.
anyway anyone out there please try my final solution and let me know if it works for you?

How should I tackle battery drain issues?? I'm fed up

I'm fed up a bit for my Z3 C battery life. This is my second query regarding battery life.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
My phone settings-
Always turned off my wifi/ bt/ nfc/ gps/ location tracking/ autoupdates etc. & everything you can think and suggest.
I use only stock custom wallpaper and no live stuff. No widgets. No sd card inserted. With only two homescreens with just 2 shortcuts on each screen.
Have disabled apps which I dont use.
Stopped services of apps which are no longer needed.
No auto sync enabled for any app.
Display brightness is at 30% all times.
I use only these 3rd party apps-
Status bar mini
Network monitor mini
Whatsapp
Greenify
My daily Z3 routine-
At night while going to sleep I turn off mobile data, turn on airplane mode and turn on stamina mode. (12:30am - 9:30am)
Manually Force stop apps which are on. Use Greenify to exit/stop apps.
When I wake up the next day battery is down by 4-5%.
During day, phone runs in normal mode without any stamina activated. (10am - 12:30am)
The Low-battery mode seems useless as it does literally nothing.
Also, as soon as the battery is 100% charged and if I use phone for even 5 mins the battery immediately drops to 99%, so is this normal??
Even if I capture 5 photos in stock auto mode the battery drops by 1% or 2.
I reboot my phone once a week or in 10 days or when need arises.
Ram utilised is always 1gb. But I dont feel any slowness for any app or my phone usage.
So inspite of all this STRICT following what I get at the end of the day is just 1.2 days battery life.
Again I dont watch any movies or play games fearing my battery will deplete in no time.
So basically I'm using my Z3 as a battery monitoring unit and is 85% on standby mode. So when shall I use my phone the way it is designed for???
I have read people using it for occasionally playing games and watching movies, light surfing, calling and camear and it still lasts a good 2 days. So where I'm going wrong here?
I use 2G/edge network as 3G isnt available for my operator in the city I reside.
Charging the phone to 100% from 14% takes 3 to 3.5 hours.
I have already repaired my phone using Sony pc companion and also did a factory reset as well but this issue has been haunting me.
Sony center says the battery doesnt need any replacement as its still healthy and so is my device.
The phones service menu also reports battery status as Good.
I dont know when is Lollipop gonna be out for Z3 but I fear updating to Lollipop as it may pose more serious issues than doing any good apart from usual GUI tweaks & updates.
But just wish that lollipop brings in more relief to Z3 batteries and operations.
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Hi all,
I dont know what topic to choose Got them all:
I was looking around and tried a lot of tips concerning the battery drainage, no luck ,
but then I noticed other issues as well
I tried to send a mail to support but, some how it is not working today: tried different browsers, even different computers.
NOT here to talk bad, complain or talk down on this product, I know the phone in working condition,
from my house mate and it is what they promise. I just dont know what to do and a bit frustrated and lauged at by my house mate.
I am posting, may be you guys have some answers, solutions or experiences.
But I think I am just unlucky to have a black sheep of the production.
My Firmware : 23.0.1.A.5.77
My issues.
- Battery Drain
- Screen isseus
- And reception issues
**Battery Drain**
I wake up 06:00 get it from the charger got to work when I come home 18:00 i got 15% left.
I actually can see the percentages going down while scrolling my emails.
ow beginning I work in support myself, I waited for an
- Waited for Updates
- Installed the update
- Un installed apps.
- Configured stamina almost so tight that most of the apps except email where online
- Did a factory reset twice
1) First time start using it as normal, with less apps, still same performance maybe
3% better, but that might be because i didn't used it so much of the less apps
2) Second time Factory reset - I got a 2, full days out of it:
- No Apps Installed
- No Wifi
- Didn't use it at al left it on my nightstand
- No data traffic
- 3/4 screenshots
- No Phone Calls
Well what is the use for a (premium) smartphone if you leave it on your nightstand?
When I start using it at the minimum installed:
- 2 email accounts (Gmail and company one)
- Facebook
- Spotify
Check it out:
!!This after the 2nd FACTORY RESET Yesterday!!!
Screenshot from this morning on my way to work
(to be fair left it with 100% unused at home and still 2 days and 3 hours)
Ok the next picture is on my way home , didnt use it since no apps installed and busy at work (this is about 12 hrs later)
Installed Spotify listened about 30minutes over 4g
18 hours left ? Quick calculation dat is 21 hours missing (33 hours in total)
Next installed facebook , some mail accounts, whatsapp, apped a couple of people that I am available again
45 Minutes later: 8 hours gone.
What do you think? Is it me? Or is there something wrong?
** SCREEN PROBLEMS **
I tought I noticed a couple of glitches with the screen, like little flashes,
but was not sure, I kind of found the use of the screen suspicious while monitoring the battery (50%)
al the time even if it was home doing nothing the whole day.
The the Bouncing touch, i experienced that also but not constant, there is another topic about that here.
Things I didnt worried about untill : I was looking around the battery menu,
and descover the usage graph screen, when I went in to it i noticed a little falsh and a lag.
and then I had a little heart attack: screen broken , dead pixels what is it.?! BUT ONLY on yhis screen,
no problem with it BEFORE the factory reset:
TAKE A LOOK, AND ALSO NOTICE THE GRAPH GOING DOWN ALMOST IN A STRAIGHT LINE,
screen shot a minute later as the 3rd screen shot of battery drain.
CHECK THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN , IT LOOKS CRACKED RIGHT? IT ISNT!!
** CONNECTION/RECEPTION PROBLEMS **
I kind of noticed , isseus , but wasnt bothered that much, only while analyzing the battery that was my main concern.
I noticed I had always less reception than others same room/place same provider (VODAFONE IRELAND),
maybe that was an factor draining the battery, but it was not like there was really low signal just one bar less then other
people an the other Z3 here in the house.
What did noticed , and I was willing to wait for an firmware update for it, It kept losing 4G connectivity;
it flipped to 3g for a bit and the stays hanging around H and Edge.
WORKAROUND restart the fone and with no problem back on 4g but after a while and not moving;
4g drops again to either H or Edge. (Mind Vodafone has the biggest and strongest 4g network at the moment here in Dublin)
So now I dont know what to do, I kinda bought the fone for my holiday (in 3 weeks).
- Is it serious enough that Sony will replace it? Since opening it up an closing it, will lose waterproofing
- What else will they expect from me to do / trouble shoot?
- How long will a solution take? Sending the fone back etc.
And finally other people reconize these isseus, and especially like me at the same time?
Thanks in advance For your Feedback (if Any).
I will try to mail support again now, and hope the website works now.
Eddy.

Discovered cause of Battery Drain lumia 920/820

Hi,
I just registered to tell you following:
I discovered the culprit that is responsible for the "semi random" battery drain.
@Home my Lumia 820 "shines" with a good battery life.
@Work:
- without any additional Installed app
- no active background task (except standard entries: "extras+info" and Nokia Music)
- every (backround)sync disabled (mail, also xbox, music.....)
- display low
- disabled location service
- closing all apps with multiple clicks on back-button
- uninstalled skype
- disabled apps @ lockscreen
- battery saver on
- backup disabled
- nfc disabled
- microsoft account sync only 1x per day
- disabled roaming (my provider is a roaming monster :-) roams into networks of other providers).
- 2x fully discharged + fully charged + 12 hours on powersupply
- and every other suggested energysave option/action i could find on internet and here in forum -> except hardreset
With all above mentioned methods the battery still gets/got literally eaten away at work in IDLE.
I had it next to me with monitor off. Only checked once per hour and it died in ~8-11 hours. No call no message no nothing.
I was curious why it only happens at work: The difference of the network coverage is, that at home it is far more inferior. I have to search for a spot in my house where i can use it for calling somebody.
So Internet is not even an option (also no HSPA+ coverage throughout the village). Normally you would have less battery life at places with less connectivity. But not in that case.
I investigated further: on the way to work I use it for surfing ~50min - 1hour -> there i loose 7-9% of my battery. (very good result for driving with car => many connection losses)
As soon as I reach the city where the Lumia reaches the HSPA+ network it begins to drain veery fast.
HSPA+ needs much more power than UMTS and I guess normal HSPA!
I compared the behaviour with the Samsung Galaxy S3 (colleague's phone) and noticed a small but profound difference:
After you "wake" the S3 from idle it will show on the screen, that it uses UMTS and not HSPA/HSPA+... as soon as you start surfing or start an app that connects to the internet the S3 switches immediately to HSPA+. After a little time the Samsung switches back to UMTS.
The lumia behaves differently: It detects HSPA+ and uses it. Also in idle!?
I followed this obvious lead and wanted to disable HSPA/HSPA+ -> unfortunately it only lets you disable 3g as a whole (UMTS/HSPA) so I switched to 2G only.
While I am writing this my L820 is unplugged 6hours now and
after much heavier use than normal (mailing, surfing with 3g while driving 45min home [which dropped the charging-level multiple times faster than gaming!], 1h gaming, 10 minutes calling)
the remaining battery life is at 70% with estimated time remaining: 1day 7hours left (after writing the whole story it went up to 2days 4hours with 69%... but i guess thats because its idleing).
This behaviour is also the explanation why some people are affected and some aren't.
Summary of change: from initially 8hours idle and not even touching the phone -> to finally using it now with 70% after 6hours with 1day 7hours time remaining.
Additional info: I live in Austria (Europe; no kangaroos ;-)) --> so I have a Lumia 820 with the german firmware without the update, which was released in USA and Canada:
Revision: 1232.2109.1242.1001
So please implement a similar function like the Samsung S3 ... or just as a start: let us manually turn off UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ separately! Surfing with 2g is no fun.
Sorry for the extensive and long story/facts ;-)
Regards
V4mp

I can confirm that my battery drain problem is related to LTE on my US Lumia 920, at home where signal is weak I get fantastic battery life, less than 2% drain an hour, lasts for well over a day with moderate usage. My work however is located in an LTE zone and as soon as I enter this area battery life becomes catastrophically bad, several times the phone has died on me before my shift even ends. Something like 15% drain per hour, sometimes worse., I pick up my phone and even though it has been completely idle for hours it is a bit warm to the touch. I have no idea what it is doing when it is just sitting there.
Trust me, I have tried all the tips from all the other users, none have worked. This is not a problem with background applications or some feature being switched on, I have tested this phone running bare bones no apps or a fully day on "battery saver" mode which seems to make no difference, the problem persists. The only way I can make it through the workday is if I put my phone into Airplane Mode, the drain then completely stops, again at less than 2% an hour.
I am amazingly frustrated by all this, my Lumia 900 never had this problem with LTE, I almost never gave the battery a second thought with my 900, but with the 920 I am constantly worried about being stuck with a dead phone, I have almost no apps installed on the phone because I am afraid of any additional drain on the battery. I have to put my phone in Airplane Mode if I plan on spending more than an hour in the civilized world, I am so unhappy with my experience and I really miss my Lumia 900. I really wish Nokia would acknowledge that this a problem with some 920 handsets, and it is a problem, we are all not suffering from some sort of mass delusion. I have spent weeks troubleshooting and trying to find the cause. I really don't know what to do at this point.

Battery drain..Keep Awake Issue

I'm having occasional issues on my Maxx with my battery draining.alot of times its over night even know I use the Smart Action for this not to happen.The times it drains,its like 50% just over night,and when I check it its always when the Android OS is at a high percentage and when I check that its when the Keep Awake is at like 8 hrs.Sometimes it doesnt do it and the Keep Awake is at like 2 or 3 hrs.Not running anything different than before this started about a month or 2 ago.Any suggestions as to what makes the Keep Awake does that?
With my normal phone useage,I used to get between 45-55hrs on a charge.now i'm lucky to get between 25-32.Whats draining it?Like I said I havent changed anything on it..apps or anything.
Thank u for the help,
Chris

Sounds like you've been doing great on checking your battery use raider33. Smart Actions is a great place to start with managing your battery, but here's a few other great tips that may help with the battery usage for your Razr Maxx: http://bit.ly/woicoV
If there's a major change in your phone's performance after a big overhaul like a firmware upgrade, it may be that some of the applications are not communicating with the update right and the phone may need to be reset. Try the battery tips in the link above first. If all else fails, the master reset is a great way to start fresh and reload everything with the new firmware update too. Here's how to go the reset if you need: http://bit.ly/tQ0nkT
Keep me posted if you need any more help.
JenniferH_VZW
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HP Split X2 Battery Drain

I have a new HP Split X2 2-in-1 (13t-g100) that I custom ordered from HP (wanted Windows 8 Pro and a high resolution screen). I've had it for a couple of weeks and by accident, noticed that after leaving the Split plugged in all day so both batteries were at 100%, if I shut it down, unplugged it and lock it up till morning (shutdown for 12+ hours), than power it on (not plugged in) the next morning, that battery charge shows about 96% (100% tablet battery and 92% for the keyboard.
Something I noticed was the Split installed some Microsoft updates during the night when it was 'shutdown'. Contacted HP chat support and they had me update the bios first, then had me change Microsoft update from automatic to manual. No longer doing updates in the middle to the night (when supposed to be shutdown) but still seeing battery drain. I disabled Microsoft’s 'fast start' in the power options of Windows 8.1 Pro but still experiencing the drain.
Is anyone else having this problem? I saw that the HP Envy X2 is having this problem but didn't see a resolution so I'm reaching out here to see if anyone is having this problem and if anyone knows of a fix.
For the record, I also have a Lenovo Twist with an SSD running Windows 8.1 Pro and it doesn't lose any power over night like the Split does.

Same problem. HP Support wasted my time verifying that battery capacity and discharge rate is OK while operating. Seemed unwilling to record my issue as anything other than batter performance problem. Different person called back to follow up on running time results and kept telling me how many cells were in the batteries and that it is normal for batteries to lose charge while turned off; what a waste of time. I'm trying to get a supervisor to call back so that I can press for an official response along the lines of "it is normal for this model to run down the battery in a week". If I can get this, I'll post it all over the place.

Verizon iPhone 4 Battery Draining issue (continued)

This is not a question or help topic but more of an announcement. Here's my story:
I preordered the phone on it's February 3rd date and recieved the phone on February 7th. I did as Apple instructs when you get a new idevice (drain the battery down till it dies then recharge it to 100%.) I did that and began to use it, and keep in mind this was not heavy usage at all. I didn't have any app store apps installed at all, I set all settings in the phone to the best configuration for battery saving (truning off push notifications, turning off location services for apps you do not need, no bluetooth, no VPN, brightness at 33%, ect.) Now I thought the battery was strange as I had made my first phone call on 100% battery and it was a 5 minute call. I kid you not I lost 10% battery from one phone call. I thought that was rediculous so I went into my local verizon store and had it replaced. I did the same as I did last time and let the battery drain till it died and filled it to 100%. Tried the phone out and still had the same issue. I went back in and got my 3rd iphone 4. Did the same steps as before and drained then filled it. Yet again, I still had troubles with 3 phones in a row. I cantacted apple and got in contact with an apple engineer named Andrew. He sent me a file that they created that monitors what all is being used by the battery and monitors background processes and applications. I let that run for 24 hours and sent the battery loggin file back to Andrew. They reviewed the log and gave me a call the next day. They told me they did find some very significant battery draining and advised me to go to the nearest apple store ASAP and have the phone checked out. I drove 2 hours to the nearest store for them to just tell me the phone is fine (yotta yotta yotta) and they did a hard reset and restore on the phone (which I could have done from home on my computer and save the gas they made me waste driving for a total of 4 hours!) I tried contacting Andrew agiain but Andrew did not reply to any email sent to him nor return my calls. I got the point that he didn't want to deal with me anymore so I then decided to go the Verizon route. I called Verizon tech support and was transferred to a teir 2 representative. I told her my story, how many replacements I had, and how bad the battery life was. I told how my grandmother has an iphone 4 and I sat down comparing the 2 (battery life wise) and she chewed me out saying things like, "How dare you compare AT&T and Verizon!" I didn't want to listen to her chewing me out so I hung up. The next day I gave apple a call once again and they told me things I had already heard several times so I hung up. I called Verizon back and they said ok let's send you a replacement phone. Well the replacement phone came and wouldn't ya know it? The phone still had the same problem and on top of that they only sent me a phone. No box, no headphones, no USB cable, no charger. I called Verizon about this and asked why they only sent me a phone and they said, "Well you get to keep the phone but we want the other things back. The box, headphones, charger, USB cable, ect." I told them no and that they could have their refurbished phone back. This phone was not even refurbished. the reason I kow that is because it had someone's name written in the phone and it was still on 4.2.5. Had it been refurbished they would have done a fresh restore and update as 4.2.5 was deemed obsolete. That was very insulting in my opinion. So I sent that back and contacted apple one last time. I asked what other options I had as I was stressed and did not want to hear the same things I have already heard. they said they could send me a new phone free of charge and have me send back my current phone. I agreed to give it one last shot but I am still not confident that this phone will be any different.
Now that's my story. Now let me go into a discussion. I have been doing my own litle "investigation on this phone to see what is making this phone drain so bad. I took a look at a report from iFixit.com and they revealed some pretty interesting things built into the Verizon iPhone. I am not going into detail about it but you can google it and see for yourself and read the article about the components. They built the phone with not only CDMA tech but also GSM. Now what purpose would that serve? Honestly? That is a big battery drainer right there. Secondly, they found that the phone contained a different model battery that was lighter and had less capacity than the GSM version of the iPhone 4. That's a second red flag. My mission right now is to get Apple's attention that these phones do indeed have aproblem and they need to be looked at because this just aint workin'. I have had several replacements done (all have the same issue), several thousands of people are reporting the same results with their battery on the web, and Apple chooses to ignore it. Something needs to be done and I encourage any Verizon iPhone user to take action and make this issue known. I have a website with contact information of people who work high up in the chain of Apple along with Scott Forstall's contact info. Go to http://idevicesupport.webs.com/apps/blog/show/6441029-update and find a contact you like and call it and deman that apple investigate these phones. We can get this issue resolved if we make it known. Don't be mean or nasty to them. They are very nice people but at the sametime don't let them talk over you. Make your voice heard. Thanks for listening guys. Take care. - Joe

Some Users have Reported that a Restore as New has helped Resolve issues...
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Data usage and battery drain has skyrocketed with iOS 8.1.2 (maybe earlier)

3 weeks ago my wife got a text message on her iPhone 5 from AT&T that she had used 90% of her data for the month. 30 seconds later, she got another one saying that she had used 100%. Granted, her data plan is small, 200 MB. But, for the last two years she has used as little as 17 MB in a month and her largest prior to this latest month was 49 mb. This month she got to 380 mb before we were able to shut off her cell data. Otherwise, a second chunk of 200 MB and another $15 would have been added to the month.
We had noticed that her battery had been draining rather rapidly in standby mode with no background apps running when she didn't have access to WiFi. We have now correlated the two results, High Cell data usage, Quick battery drain and very warm phone. In case anyone is wondering about her iPhone 5 being one in the recall, it is. I took it in and had it tested. Apple says the battery is fine. It does hold a charge well. When all network communications are shut down on her phone and it is in standby mode, there is no noticeable loss of charge in 24 hours (our longest test).
Since I have a grandfathered Unlimited Data Plan with AT&T, I have been doing some testing on my iPhone 5s. Sure enough, I've seen similar results. With nearly everything turned off except Cell Data, I've seen 483 MB used in 24 hours. Of that total, 479 MB was used for Documents & Sync. I even have everything turned off in my iCloud account, Location services are turned off, no push notifications etc...
The best I can figure, this has been a problem since we installed 8.1.2 and yesterday I installed 8.1.3 resulting in no positive effect on this issue.
At this rate of data usage and no access to WiFi, my wife would have to have a 15 Gb data plan to keep from exceeding her limit. I don't think AT&T even offers one that big anymore. I might have to switch to Sprint or T-Mobile if this doesn't get resolved.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your shared insights.

Hey this is Brian, bjmcmurry, under a different user ID. If I logged in as bmcmurry, original post, I was just getting a server error and couldn't get to this discussion nor post a comment anywhere.
Anyway, let me be as brief as I can. After an extensive analysis of replicating the problem on another phone to eliminate it being a hardware specific issue and that the test phone has an unlimited data plan, I was able to stop the excessive data usage and consequential battery drain. I believe I have a reasonable explanation of the problem, an iOS logic bug.
I had everything under my control clamped down on the test phone to minimize data usage. Also, I was forcing all data usage to use the cell towers. I determined that I was burning at least 11 to 13 Mb per hour doing nothing important. I literally had everything turned off except 'Settings' was allowed to use Cell data providing a avenue to log into the Apple ID.
The two phones had 2 things in common, they were using the same Apple ID and the same version of the OS. One was a iPhone 5 and the other was a 5s.
Here is a synopsis of my experience via my written evaluation of the Apple support system (Apple Rep name's have been removed):
After a couple of hours on the phone with an Apple Care Senior support Analyst, it was suggested that I go to the Apple Store to 1) get my battery replace in the iPhone 5 since it qualified for the replacement program and 2) see if the Genius could provide me with any insight in the data usage issue and battery drain.
I'm certainly glad I had multiple reasons to visit the closest Apple store, a 45 min drive. I got the battery replaced, thanks for that.
Regarding the important issue to me that brought me to the Genius Bar, excessive Cell data usage, I thought the Genius did a wonderful job listening and documenting the problem we were experiencing. Unfortunately, educating us on the use of the product or replacing our phone was not going to solve the problem. He eventually figured it out, this was not a user error or broken hardware. We surmised that the reason I was sent to him was to verify and document that there was a problem. I clearly had a problem. After writing copious notes on the issue, The Genius smartly referred me back the the AppleCare Senior Advisor. So, back to AppleCare Senior Analyst I went. She, knowing this was not a simple problem to solve i.e. beyond her level of expertise, got an Apple Software engineer involved.
My primary frustration is that this should have been escalated to software engineering right away. My trip to see the Genius was, I believe, a waste of time for both me and Apple regarding this issue. Diagnosis of this type of problem is well beyond the Genius’ knowledge and job. The Genius did a very good job doing what he could within the scope of his job. He just couldn’t solve this problem and had no one within Apple to which he had access for help.
However, that initial consult with the engineer was a bit feeble. Not only could I not talk to him/her directly, his/her focus was still working with the ‘Black Box' approach. Having Analyst ask me to do stuff like restore the Phone was more like trying to find a 'work around' than 'identifying the real problem.' Maybe restoring the phone was going to fix some corrupted data on the phone sidesteping the real problem, the handling of this condition. The engineer did listen to the fact that I had restored the test phone, the 5s, and only added the use of my Apple ID. Duh, been there!!!
Having been an previous owner of a software development company that I started in 1980 and retired in 2001, I can tell you that using the 'Black Box' method of debugging is extremely inefficient. Instead, having access to an ‘Activity Manager’ type app to identify in real time what process was blowing up the data flow would have saved me a lost afternoon at the Apple store and hours on the phone with tech support.
Ironically, I may have stumbled onto a "work around" solution short of turning off Cell Data that stopped the excessive Cell Data usage and consequential battery drain. Just prior to leaving the Apple Store, I used one of their Macs to log in my Apple ID on the id.apple.com website to ‘Manage my Apple ID’, I was forced to upgrade the security level of my password. Afterward, my cell data usage seemed to drop dramatically.
I told the AppleCare Senior Analyst that I may have stumbled onto a workaround and I suggested that I give it a couple of days of monitoring. We'd talk then and I would have results to report. She agreed.
Sure enough, my Document & Sync usage was back to normal, about 1/2 Mb per day. Am I happy that the excessive Cell Data usage has stopped? You bet! But, there was no intuitive reason that an end user would know to log in on the ID website to unknowingly solve this problem. As I use to say to my employees, that is not the ‘Macintosh Way.’ And, rebooting the the 'Microsoft Way.'
When I reported my findings to the Analyst, we both concluded that data usage was back to normal. She did report to me that the engineer did provide a laundry list of suggested activities to help solve the problem. Remarkably, they were everything that I had already done and were pretty much what the Analyst and the Genius tried to do. All reasonable tasks. But clearly, the engineer hadn't even ready the notes on the case before responding. And, none of the things suggested would have uncovered the real problem, likely a logic bug in iOS.
My advice now is to have the software engineering team rule out that there was an unresolvable state that a background process was fiercely trying to handle. The iOS does not seem to know how to intervene and prompt the user with a requirement to upgrade their password. If this does end up being the case, I would call it a logic bug, a perpetual exception that is not being handled properly.
Anyway, I hope this helps you.

3G switching back to EDGE because of poor ATT coverage major battery drain?

I have the orig iPhone, my friend cam to my office today with the 3G iPhone. We kinda marked off all the areas that the 3G would drop and EDGE pick up. The 3G phone basically had more areas that it did not have coverage than it did. Every time the phone would re-scan, and EDGE would pop back up. It probably dropped to EDGE 20 times as we walked different areas over lunch. After seeing that 3G does not have good coverage anywhere by my house or office I think I will wait for the 3G coverage to get better... I am in Orange County So Cal, was thinking the coverage would be perfect?? Also, it seems all the back & forth with the phone trying always to be on 3G when the coverage is poor drained the battery to 20% in a 2 hour period, with push off, screen down, wifi off local settings off.
Anybody have any benchmarks on the amount of draining happens during the phone trying to always scan for a 3G connection?

While I don't have any true benchmarks, I can say that I've tested the battery life with personal usage both with 3G on and 3G off for a day to see what was up with my extremely poor battery life. I can say that turning 3G off made a huge difference for me. It increased the battery life of my iPhone 3G to about what it was with my original iPhone. I can say that I'm probably getting roughly 1.5x - 2x the battery life I was with 3G enabled by just turning it off.
With 3G on but little to no coverage, the phone is ramping up the work it's doing to try to obtain and keep that connection. If it's just not available, you'll definitely see the phone's battery draining faster than normal as it tries to acquire signal. Remember the days of poor phone coverage in general? Phones drained batteries in much the same way.
Sure, it ***** to turn 3G off since it's something that I'm basically paying for but I'd much rather have a phone that makes it through an entire day of usage rather than one I'm finding I have to be careful about how much I use it just so I don't have to charge it twice in one day. It's more desirable to me to be able to use my phone for a longer period of time than to have a fast data connection. Besides, WiFi isn't as big of a battery drainer as the 3G connection is so I'm perfectly content with switching that on if I need fast web access. Also, there's nothing stopping me from turning 3G back on when I'm in a good coverage area (basically anywhere outside around here... I'm in Orange County, too) at which point the battery performance is better anyway.

My own Battery Drain Issues on iPhone 5

Hello guys, I've just created an account here to share my many issues with iPhone 5.
Well, this wasn't my Apple's 1st product, as I've had Ipod touch 2g and 3g, as well as an iPhone 3g. But it's my first time experiencing crazy battery issues with an Apple product, wich is really sad and disappoint, since this is the MOST expensive cell phone in my country (Brazil).
It all started about a week after I bought my iPhone 5. One morning I was on the bus, going to work, and my iPhone had about 99% battery remaining. 1h20 later, when I arrived at work, I had about 80% battery, so I panicked.
Suddenly I realized I was a victim of the common i5 battery drain. I was loosing 1% battery each 3~5 minutes IN STAND BY. And my settings are the same as they've ever been: wi-fi off, 3G off, 4G off (since it's not available in Brazil), brightness on minimum, no weak cell phone coverage etc. So, I shouldn't be experiencing this at all.
After reading lots of threads around the web, I realized that the ONLY solution to this would RESET AND START YOUR IPHONE AS A NEW ONE. No backups, no deleting apps and data. Sometimes removing email accounts would work, but as I didn't use this stuff, restarting my phone seemed to be the solution.
So I did it and, apparently, my problems were solved. My phone has worked perfectly for 2+ months. And then I let it fully discharge - but it's was not the first time it' happened. After I recharged for 4h, I started loosing battery really fast again, so the battery drain have came back. It was so frustrating.
Then I sent my iphone to an authorized reseller and they manage to give me a new replacement phone. They've checked my old i5 and detected a battery issue. My charger and cable were also tested but they were ok.
Well, after the very first charge on my new phone - and I've set it up as a new phone - the battery drain started again. I couldn't believe it.
So now I'm waiting for my 3rd iphone 5 in 3 months...
PS: My original iPhone 5 was bought in the USA, and the replacement one came from Brazil. Both were running iOS 6.1.4 when the issues started.
After all that, here are my conclusions:
1) In normal conditions, with wi-fi, 3G and LTE off, you should expect your iPhone 5 to waste 1% of battery every 1h30~2h15 on STANDBY. This is based on my best iphone performance and on Apple's information: iPhone 5 should have 225h of battery time (in standby) at it's best. Since 100% = 225h, every 2h15min you should expect to "waste" 1% of battery, on standby.
Sometimes, overnight, your phone might have an even better battery life: my friend only lost 1% for about 8h/9h overnight. But this is just not common. Expect to loose about 2%~3% every night with all apps closed and no wifi/3G/LTE.
2) If you detect a battery drain, GO TO AN APPLE STORE/RESELLER RIGHT THE WAY. Don't even bother trying a reset, as I did, because it might solve the problem for a while, but it CAN come back. Go to the apple store and ask for a diagnostic of your phone and battery. It will save you a lot of time.
3) There are MANY causes to battery drains. The most common ones seem to be: 1- Push notifications/email related stuff -> Reset email, internet and settings. 2- Facebook app -> reinstall app. 3- Defective battery - go to apple store/genius and ask for a replacement phone.
4) If an iPhone comes from factory with battery issues, expect AT LEAST ONE other issue. My original phone's touch screen was unresponsive when charging on PC and connect to iTunes and my replacement phone's microphone was not working properly. So expect other defective parts
5) With my experience, I've realized I might have discovered A NEW CAUSE TO BATTERY DRAIN: A DEFECTIVE NANO-SIM CARD. Why? Well, because it's the only thing that I have used on both my iPhones (original and replacement ones). And it's the only thing thats has never been tested (both my charger and cable were tested on apple's reseller and were ok). And in my replacement phone, after I removed the SIM, I started loosing 1% battery every 1h20, when on stand by and with no wi-fi, 3G or LTE. So, if you have a battery issue CONSIDER THE SIM CARD TO BE THE PROBLEM.
Also, when my replacement phone was near any amplifier/pc speaker, it would make the amp make that "call or text incoming" sound. (to understand this, put your phone near an amplifier/speaker and ask for someone to call you). This makes me believe that the SIM card was, somehow, defective and making my phone receiving data (and I mean only telephone data, like related to calls and sms) when it shouldn't.
That's all my friends. If anyone has ever experienced this crazy issues, please try to help me. I'm getting a new sim card, iOS7 and my 3rd replacement phone and let's see if it works as it should.
Sorry for the MANY mistakes, my English is not good =\.
Cheers from Brazil!

Hi Folks,
iPhone & iPad2 battery drain issue SOLVED!!!!!
I had a serious battery drain problem on THREE devices using different iOS .... it was a simple fix and had certain characteristics that you may be able to relate to ......
Devices;     16GB iPhone 4 with IOS6
                  16GB iPhone 4S with iOS7.06
                  32G iPad2 with iOS7.04
On or about Feb. 28th all three devices started to drain the battery like crazy losing about 20%/hour on the iPhones and 10%/hour on the iPad2 .... After messing around with settings, browsing forums and looking at what was common between the three devices I concluded the problem was with a single Microsoft Outlook/Live/Hotmail email account in the iOS native mail app .... I deleted the email account on all three devices (along with other unrelated Microsoft accounts on each device) and did a hard reboot (hold HOME and top LOCK button simultaniously for about 10 seconds until the apple logo appeared).
I then re-created the common Microsoft Outlook/Live/Hotmail account on all three devices in the iOS native mail app ...... SUCCESS! Now all three devices are behaving normaly with respect to battery drain ......
Hopefully this will be useful to others in this thread ..........

Iphone 4s IOS 7.0.4 update battery drain issues

I hope this gets to apple in regards to the issue of the battery drain. I have been following several discussions for the past couple of weeks and everyone seems to have some type of idea on what the problem is. I'm not a service tech or gadget know all, but I have been performing several "Nonscientific" test to see what is draining my battery.
I have a 4s that has always had good battery life. It seemed to run consistent to what was detailed in the product specs. I would only need to charge it every other day on limited use or the next day with heavy use. After updating to the latest update (IOS 7.0.4), the battery would drain in less than a day on limited use which is a couple of text, couple of email checks, 3 to 4 phone calls at less than 10 minutes each - no internet searches or game play.
So, after reading everyones suggestions in the forums and trying them, the battery still drained just as fast, if not faster. I read a post somewhere regarding “Bluetooth” constantly searching. So, I saw mine was doing the same. Someone replied to that person that it should not be the issue, as it does not use much power to run its task. (I found they were wrong)
Here is my nonscientific test, but a good one. (for the record I had nothing on in the notification center, Do not disturb off, only thing on in Privacy - location services was google maps, Siri, Yelp, and Find my phone; iCcloud was off; background app refreash was off; email fetch data was off; everything else was off)
Day 1 - I fully charged my phone several hours, I unplugged it at night before going to bed, did a hard reset to make sure every app was off, and only opened the settings app and made sure the Bluetooth was onand searching. I checked my phone 6 hours later and saw the battery drained from 100% to 56% with no usage other than just being on and in sleep mode. That would mean it drained at 7.3333 % an hour. Some would say that acceptable. - Its not when there is no usage. The battery would die in 13 hours with no usage.
Day 2 - I repeated the test (as above), but turned off the bluetooth. I checked my phone 6 hours later and saw the battery did not drain at all. I started with a 100% and battery was still at a 100% with no usage other than just being on and in sleep mode. I opened a couple of apps and closed them to prevent them from running in the back ground and noticed I lost about 2% of charge after usinging it checking an app or 2. I put it back to sleep mode and checked it again in an hour and saw it only drained 3% down to 97%. Very acceptible.
Day 3 - I repeated the test, but during regular day hours with limited use of the phone (with bluetooth off). I was back to getting close to a normal battery drain I was experiencing prior to the update. I know that IOS 7.0.4 uses a little more battery power to run as it has different features and abilities, so the battery drain was not like it was before, but a lot better.
So, my experiment concluded to me that the new update is causing the bluetooth searching to run in the back ground continuously and causing the battery to drain unacceptably fast on my phone. This is a program issue that can be fixed by Apple. I find it unacceptable to have to control my bluetooth manually, as I never had to do it before and I shouldn't have to do it now. I hope Apple will fix it soon. I‘ve been a apple product person for years, and enjoy the products, but lately they have been not been satisfactory in the phone business. I have been playing with a samsung galaxy thats looking very promising, if apple doesn’t fix the issue everyone is having, they will loose business to competitors.
Please fix the issue!

Hi Folks,
iPhone & iPad2 battery drain issue SOLVED!!!!!
I had a serious battery drain problem on THREE devices using different iOS .... it was a simple fix and had certain characteristics that you may be able to relate to ......
Devices;     16GB iPhone 4 with IOS6
                  16GB iPhone 4S with iOS7.06
                  32G iPad2 with iOS7.04
On or about Feb. 28th all three devices started to drain the battery like crazy losing about 20%/hour on the iPhones and 10%/hour on the iPad2 .... After messing around with settings, browsing forums and looking at what was common between the three devices I concluded the problem was with a single Microsoft Outlook/Live/Hotmail email account in the iOS native mail app .... I deleted the email account on all three devices (along with other unrelated Microsoft accounts on each device) and did a hard reboot (hold HOME and top LOCK button simultaniously for about 10 seconds until the apple logo appeared).
I then re-created the common Microsoft Outlook/Live/Hotmail account on all three devices in the iOS native mail app ...... SUCCESS! Now all three devices are behaving normaly with respect to battery drain ......
Hopefully this will be useful to others in this thread ..........

Iphone 4S resets itself every few min - the battery drains in an hr.

My iphone 4S is resetting every few minutes as a result the battery drains in an hour.
By resetting I mean, the lock screen would show up, then the apple sign would come up like when you start your iphone, searches for the network etc. This happens every few minute even when the phone is on standby or when I am using it. If I am on the call, then the call gets disconnected because the phone is resetting.
The usage always shows "-" for both Usage and Standby with the message that the usage time will be shown after iphone is fully charged.
This started only a month ago when my phone was not on the latest os version. But now it is on the latest but the problem never did go away. It never fell out of my hand or fall into water and is barely a year old (just 10/15 days over the warranty period).
Please help!

And I should mention that I took the foll steps so far:
1. Let the battery drain out completely and charge it overnight
2. Backed the phone, then reset the phone and restored from backup.
3. Took it to the apple store and they did a different kind of restore but no luck
The only thing left for me to try to is to reset it to factory setting unless some one can suggest some other way.

Iphone5 battery drained and wont open

I just bought the iphone 5 last year and it was so good everything runs so fine. Until i upgraded the software to IOS 7 , i started having problems on charging , battery drained too fast and it wont open anymore. The most irritating was when the battery left uncharge or drained, it wont open nor charge anymore. I've tried using different original cable charger but it wont work. I'm so ****** with this phone.

Try removing the battery to try and reboot the device. It's possible that something else went wrong with the device. If that doesn't work I would contact your wireless service provider.
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8800 battery drains unpredictably

Hi, my 8800 seems to be fine on a full charge for a few hours, then it will drop charge quickly over an hour or two, down to 50% or less. Sometimes, overnight after a full charge in the afternoon, the 8800 is dead in the morning. All it receives overnight is email from our BES server. The cursor hourglass flicks on and off constantly too.
The only apps running are Browser, Home page, Call logs and Messages - all of which are empty. OS is V4.5 (latest).
Anyone have any clues as to what could be causing this battery drain (I have tried 3 different batteries, all original BB branded)
Thanks in advance.
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I would suggest that you try the "drain battery 3x in a row, charge to 100% each time cycle" on one of the batterys. Read it in the link above...
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