Blog post about Crop Marks Filter in Illustrator CS4

Sometime back a blog article was posted on Adobe Illustrator Blogs at http://blogs.adobe.com/infiniteresolution/ which talks about how Illustrator CS4 users who wanted/asked for the pre-Illustrator CS4 Crop Marks Filter could get it back.
Mac users can go directly to this link to get the Crop Marks Filter plug-in : http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4617
Win users can go directly to this link to get the Crop Marks Filter plug-in :
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4618&fileID=4288

It does do that but it should not show the bleeds as a part of the document it should the document size should be differentiated from the bleed and crop and printer marks area.
You should be able to turn them off for better review purpose with clients and the thing that Acrobat does automatically is to fit the document to the paper size. This I think is a mistake as the ordinary user might not understand what is happening.
If you want to print the document at a 100% it has to go on a paper and to a print that prints documents of a larger size.
It should be clearer as we have reach a point in time where there are most users who have no old world experience with the printing press and plate making so many will not get this true once pointed out it will appear to them as a no brainer.
Also with Acrobat becoming a presentation and conferencing tool for client review in a very live way the ability to turn the bleeds and marks off with a click is very necessary especially hen you have a dead head executive on the other end saying that they never approved that design feature. You can then just click hide the crops or pint out that those marks are outside the documents page size and won't print.
No matter how much sense it makes to you and me because we are very experience with this there will always be people outside our profession that will have a hard time with this and many within our profession as well.
I was aware this was finally included in CS4 but I think it can be improved admittedly you can send a copy of the pdf without bleeds and marks. But you have no control over what they might do on the other side and i have seen some pretty stupid things.
In th old days you know the account exec would come into the art dept and pick the comp off of your drawing table and take his finger and run it over the art and ask is this wet?
I guess I don't have to tell anyone the answer to that question.

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