BPM -NO interface detected

Hi,
I am doing one BPM scenario. In Integration Process - Receiver step - Messages .. When I am selecting the messasges, In that Pop up windown no messages Interfaces r coming, even I created Message interfaces.
Thx,
Ansar.

Hi,
As Bhavesh said did you create Abstract interface and created a container element in the BPM refering the abstract interface?
Check ou this blog to see how it is done.. look at Figure: 15.
/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm
Thanks,
Prakash

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Hi,
I just saw your IP design and from this I can see that you have message mapping between Sender(as in Outbound interface MIOASY) and abstract interface (as in MIAASY) and then in that you have used transformation step to utilise Interface mapping which is between same abstract interface which is not required at all as message type for both the interfaces is same. For me, what your configuration would be is
1. Sender agreement to fetch the message from outbound interface(MIOASY) utilising communication channel with whatever adapter you have used
2. Receiver Determination with Sender and sender interface as MIOASY while receiver as IP(Integration process)
3. Interface determination between
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Design
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I have done a BPM which collect messages and send them to a file adapter in one message.
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4) Yes, you don't have to depend on any project for your processes, you can add it in your Solution Landscape.
5) Post a Separate Thread!!!
6) Post a Separate Thread!!!
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