BPM scenerio

Hello All,
I have scenerio SAP(IDOC) --- > PI -
> Webservice (SOAP)
Here we are using BPM AsyncSync Call because we need to send response back to SAP system.It is working perfectly , but now in Production system we found frequently it is giving error.
Mostly in MONI it dont show any error it always shows error in smq2 inbound q with error message exception in BPE.
When i analyse this error i found that while sending a response from webservice there was some connection problem, but i didnot understood why it got stuck in Inbound q.
Can anyone let us know why we have got this error or is there anyone we can rectify this.Can it be a cause of interface design issue,This is very frequent problem so we want to rectify this .
Regards,
Vikrant

Using an Exception Handling in such a case is always helpful.
Include the SyncSend step inside a block and include an Exception Branch for this Block.
So now if any error is faced while getting back the response (like connection issue) it will be caught by the exception branch.
In there you can apply the relevant exception logic (send alert email) or even a simple Cancel Process step will also do (depending on your business logic)
This will fix the issue forever and prevent the BPM getting stucked. Ask your TL/ PM to follow this approach and let us know what they think on it.
Even I am implementing the same logic in my project for every sync call with a WS.
Regards,
Abhishek.

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Hi Experts,
I was tryin on the BPM scenerio made my Murthy.
/people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2005/06/09/walkthrough-with-bpm
I have completeted all the steps.
The communication channels are up and running well. But I simply cant get to the last step.
In the last step:
"To monitor Integration process log, go to transaction SXMB_MONI_BPE ->Process Selection->Select corresponding integration process (in Service Field) ->Execute->Select work item."
I simply cant get to see ANY FIELDS in Process Selection. It is all blank . And when I am putting no selection criteria, and simply executing it, then also it is giving NO VALUES.
Experts, can u suggest, what step, am I missing, any settings, any step, that I hav skipped.
PS.
I hav checked each step thoroughly.
I hav avtivated all items.
Regards,
Arnab.
I am also getting an error in SXMB_MONI:
<SAP:Stack>No receiver agreement found for sender -BS_FILE_BPM to receiver -IP_File_to_File,urn:bpm_am.MI_FILE_to_BPM_ABS</SAP:Stack> .
Pls comment Experts:
Regards,
Arnab
Edited by: Arnab Mondal on Jan 6, 2009 7:14 AM

>
> "To monitor Integration process log, go to transaction SXMB_MONI_BPE ->Process Selection->Select corresponding integration process (in Service Field) ->Execute->Select work item."
> I simply cant get to see ANY FIELDS in Process Selection. It is all blank . And when I am putting no selection criteria, and simply executing it, then also it is giving NO VALUES.
You will see that only if the BPM was executed. Seems your BPM is not executed yet. In SXMB_MONI, for the entry of your process, do you see a column with PE ? if so try clicking and drilling down
> I am also getting an error in SXMB_MONI:
> <SAP:Stack>No receiver agreement found for sender -BS_FILE_BPM to receiver -IP_File_to_File,urn:bpm_am.MI_FILE_to_BPM_ABS</SAP:Stack> .
have you created the receiver agreements?
there will be two receiver agreements;
1. from sender system to BPM.
2. BPM to receiver system.

BPM PI 7.1

Hi All,
Can you please give me any simple BPM scenerio that can can be implemented easily?
Thanks in advance

Hi Shweta,
> 1.What shall I mention in the Communication Channel in the Source directory?
Create a file communication channel as you do for other integrations. Create a sample xml file from MM_File_to_File mapping test tab. Use the same file in your source directory.
> Can I use Receiver agreement for the communication channel and skip creating communication channel?I
No you cannot do like this. Receiver agreement and communication channels are both are different. Communication is used to pick and create your file. Receiver agreement is the binding between your interfaces and communication cahnnel. Please see sap help on this.
> If so then I have created 2 receiver determinations 1 with the Outbound Interface and 2 with the Abstract Interface
You will create 2 receiver deteriminatins. one between your outbound interface and integration process and another between Integration process and inbound interface. You need to have one outbound, one abstract and one inbound message interface.
>If I mention the source directoy as the path in my system will it give error?
If you mean from your desktop, then you need do to ftp which connects from your desktop to xi. If you dont have then better put the file in shared directory on xi server or any other server and then read the file.
> I am confused with the monitoring mentioned in the blog.
It is a very straight forward document for monitoring bpm shweta. Since you are new you are having trouble. Also please see this document and see it is helpful for you:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/elearn?rid=/library/uuid/1db5e190-0201-0010-1c90-d9de570c6b18&overridelayout=true
(see slide 17 for bpm)
I would suggest you to exactly create the datatypes, message interfaces etc the same as given in the blog. once you complete then you will have an idea and then can differ what ever you want then.
Regards,
---Satish

BPM uses

hi guruz,
where we use BPM scenerio in XI, in what type of requirement we use BPM.
Is it avoidable or not .
please guide me.
warm regards.

Hi Pawan chauhan ,
Business Process Management (BPM) has become a critical part of enterprise development.business process management
Business process management (BPM) is a systematic approach to improving an organization's business processes. BPM activities seek to make business processes more effective, more efficient, and more capable of adapting to an ever-changing environment. BPM is a subset of infrastructure management, the administrative area of concern dealing with maintenance and optimization of an organization's equipment and core operations.
A business process is a set of coordinated tasks and activities, conducted by both people and equipment, that will lead to accomplishing a specific organizational goal. The Business Process Management Initiative (BPMI), a non-profit organization, exists to promote the standardization of common business processes, as a means of furthering e-business and business-to-business (B2B) development. To this end, the organization has developed the Business Process Modeling Language (BPML), an Extensible Markup Language (XML)-based metalanguage for modeling business processes.
BPM(Business Process Management) is a structured approach that models an enterprise's human and machine tasks and the interactions between them as processes. BPM software uses a dashboard interface that offers a high-level view of the operation that typically crosses departmental boundaries. The dashboard integrates with all the applications that perform processes as well as related databases and can be used to trigger the start of a unit of work.
Evolving from document management, workflow and enterprise application integration (EAI), a BPM system can monitor and analyze tasks in realtime and set off alerts when specified limits are exceeded or a response is not received within a specified time.
Management for People/Machine Systems
For decades, systems that are entirely automated have more or less taken care of themselves. However, operations requiring a mix of people and machine procedures employ BPM as a higher-level management system that keeps track of them both.
Over time, a BPM system can provide historical data of human-machine interactions that might be extremely difficult to obtain from information systems, especially disparate systems from several departments or systems running on different platforms.
The BPM Suite (BPMS)
A BPM system may comprise a variety of independent packages or a comprehensive business process management suite (BPMS), which includes tools for modeling and analysis, application integration, business rules support, business intelligence (BI), activity monitoring and optimization. Advanced BPMSs provide a development tool for creating forms-based applications, which are often the start of many business processes.
The following r excellent websites on BPM giving the need for BPM :
An introduction to Business Process Management
http://www.avelon.nl/downloads/Introduction_BPM.pdf
business process management
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci1088464_tax304528,00.html
BUSINESS PROCESS MANAGEMENT WITH SAP NetWeaveru2122
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Business Process Management Essentials
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Business Process Management
http://www.seeburger.es/fileadmin/es/pdf/SEEBURGER_-_Business_Integration_Server__TA000714BPM_.pdf
BPM Process Patterns Repeatable Designs for BPM Process Models
http://edocs.bea.com/albsi/docs55/pdfs/BPM%20Process%20Patterns%20White%20Paper.pdf
Business Process Management -Modeling to Execution
http://www30.sap.com/korea/company/events/techday05/img/data_06.pdf
BUSINESS PROCESS MANAGEMENT (BPM)
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/ed49db90-0201-0010-c4a5-c520866a19c7
BPM Process Patterns:Repeatable Design for BPM Process Models
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A BPM Roadmap
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Dynamic configuration not fil in reused OM in NW BPM

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-Tahir

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ahmad

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It is receiver Data Type , Since in this scenerio the sender is IDOC and recevier is Flat file , We have declare the data type . for sender we are importing the IDOC..for receiver we have declare the data type.
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hi
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how i want to split the fields using BPM.
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tamilarasan kandasamy

Hi,
my scenerio is about file to JDBC . my flat file contains some 20 rows,just i want to split into 4 rows and then transfer into sql server.
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/people/narendra.jain/blog/2005/12/30/various-multi-mappings-and-optimizing-their-implementation-in-integration-processes-bpm-in-xi
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Chilla..
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