BSP compression / length of session ID in portal

Hi everybody,
we are calling a BSP application from within the portal.
The HTTP compression does not work for the application.
When calling the BSP application outside the portal everything is ok. So the settings for the BSP itself must be ok.
What we found. This is the URL without portal:
http://.../sap(bD1lbiZjPTEwMCZkPW1pbiZ3PTEwMjgzNzAr)/bc/bsp/sap/cprojects/root.do
And this is the URL with portal:
http://.../sap(bD1lbiZjPTEwMCZkPW1pbiZwPTFodHRwJTNhJTJmJTJmZWxvc3ElMmViYXRnZW4lMmVjb20lM2E5MDIwJTJmaXJqJTJmcG9ydGFsYXBwcyUyZmNvbSUyZXNhcCUyZXBvcnRhbCUyZWRlc2lnbiUyZXBvcnRhbGRlc2lnbmRhdGElMmZ0aGVtZXMlMmZwb3J0YWwlMmZCQVQlMmZjb250cm9scyUyZmNvbnRyb2xzX2llNiUyZWNzcyUzZjYlMmUwJTJlMTUlMmUwJTJlMSZ2PTYlMmU0Jnc9Mzc0NjgyMCsmaT0xKyZzPVNJRCUzYUFOT04lM2FiYXRueGMwMV9OUFFfMD
AlM2FTSy1uRnZrcjNWdm9KWkJqblg2R2UyMmNibmlhZFpheWhQdkNYaWtNLUFUVA==)/bc/bsp/sap/cprojects/root.do
You see, the session ID is gigantic.
Q1: What should be the 'normal' length of the session ID?
Q2: Do you have any idea how to resolve this?
Thanks a lot for your help
Best regards,
Thorsten

Hi Paulo,
Make sure that your system is configured properly to handle HTTP Protocol.
I mean if your URL BSP page begins with http, you need to configure your system, within the portal, with http protocol.
Same remarks are available for HTTPS Protocol.
Portal view point
- To configure your system, within the portal go to :
System Administration -> System Configuration -> System Landscape.
- Select the System you are using to connect to the backend
- Edit its property "Was Protocol"
Backend view point
Check that all your BSP pages have this property "Unchecked" :
Properties -> Transfer Options -> Https
Best regards. Allan.
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If you are really trying to create a reusable toolbox - then I highly suggest the Extension approach. However I have done the sharing of model data between two applications. I have an example here:
/people/thomas.jung3/blog/2005/05/27/custom-bsp-extension-element-for-field-level-help
Basically I serialize the model class and write it into a server cookie. Then I pass a unquie ID for that model instance to the second application. It can then retrieve and deserialize the model.

How to create session varibales in portal application?

Hi,
I want to declare a session varibale in my portal component.
How do I do it?

Hi Anagha Bhat,
There are two types of storage methods.
1. Volatile - data can be lost when session ends => temporary
2. Non Volatile - data storage is permanent
Session Objects as we know are for storing session variables and using them in other Dyn pages
These methods are Volatile methods
Please check the below links for 4 different ways to store volatile data
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/EN/fc/f28f414141a709e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/EN/fc/f28f414141a709e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
Hope these were helpful.
Regards,
Shaila Kasha

Session Management in Portal

Is there any packages for managing the user sessions in Portal ? OR
How do Portal manages user sessions ?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by [email protected]:
Is there any specific package for handling sessions in Portal ? OR
How do Portal handles the session management part ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There are session management examples for Java and PL/SQL portlets in the JPDK. There's a link to the JPDK off the OTN home page.

Get a session context at portal init time

I have code to read in a custom varpack file which runs at portal startup. I'd like to be able to query information from the database which I'll use in processing the config file, but it seems I need to have a session context in order to do this.
Is there a way to query the DB w/out a session context, or to create a session while processing a varpack?
Thanks!

I have code to read in a custom varpack file which runs at portal startup. I'd like to be able to query information from the database which I'll use in processing the config file, but it seems I need to have a session context in order to do this.
Is there a way to query the DB w/out a session context, or to create a session while processing a varpack?
Thanks!

BSP Compression

We will be using a bespoke BSP application for HR Performance Management. There are already high Network turn around times and AccAd is being investigated. However we were also thinking of caching Mimes and activating the HTML Compression in the BSP pages.
Is this still necessary with AccAd?

Hi Mike,
sure, sounds like a good fit - in general AccAD can improve the response times over WAN for BSP applications quite well. Whether you still enable caching static resources in the browser and compressing the pages, depends a bit on your overall infrastructure: Would this help LAN users as well? Are there any users in the WAN that will not be able to access the system via AccAD? Is it likely that there will be a small latency / bandwidth restriction between user and AccAD Client Front-End? If any of those concerns apply, then it might make sense to use those "tuning features" of the application itself. But in general, it's not a prerequiste for AccAD to enable this first.
Best regards
Jana

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