BT Infinity Outrage

Hello,
I have been waiting for the BT Infinity to come to my exchange box for what seems like an eternity, it feels like all of the surrounding areas near me actually have the Fibre Optic available.
Firstly it is ruining my chance of trying to start my career as a Youtuber and a Livestreamer on Twitch as I have to cope with the 4Mb/s Download and the under 1Mb/s upload which is an absolute outrage and I feel like I have been made a complete outsider with this.
I would quite happy pay a high amount of £1000 just to have fibre optic installed specifically on just my line, however this option isn't available.
Also my father's house which it literally a 1-2 minute walk around the corner and across the road from my street is live with fibre optic, I have also registered my interest on the BT website hundreds of times, hoping that someone may take some notice. However also I seem to be out of luck on this too.
I have also phoned BT several times about my slow connection on the current snail of a Homehub that I am using, and have been re-assured they are doing everything to help improve my speed, and honestly in my opinion I have been getting worse speeds. For example, on Steam which is a widely recognised Game Provider I can't get over 500kb/s download speed at any time whether it be in peak hours or out of them.
I am beginning to question whether my exchange box has just been ignored as it is part of a council estate. I work full time and can afford the BT Infinity option and as I previously stated I would pay a rediculous amount just to have it installed even if it literally was just on MY line and no-one elses on the street. 
Also I was looking at the rollout plan and I saw that 97% of Lancashire should be receiving Fibre Optic by 2015, I can't help but feel that I will be in that 3% and will continue to be ignored, which in my opinion is out of order.
However it would be appreciated if I could be given an option of paying a higher amount just to have Fibre Optic installed from yourselves, or at the very least be given a date on when they plan to install it on my street.
I do have a feeling that this post will also be ignored, however you can't blame me for complaining when the career I am wanting to build is being destroyed due to a lack of service.
Feel free to contact me BT on my email or on here.
Thankyou for your time,
Vincent Scott.

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    • Upgrade your computer to ‘N’ standard wireless hardware. If needed, buy a suitable N wireless adaptor from BT atwww.bt.com/nwireless 
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    hi all                                                                                                            
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    Hello world.                                                                                                    
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    hi all.                                                                                                                
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    Comment From Simon
    Hi all                                                                                                      
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    KerryG
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    Charles
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    Comment From Neil Potter
    Thanks Martin - Workmen recently dug up the path outside my driveway to install FTTC so I know it's there  My exchange goes live on 30th June - I can't wait!I have another question: I'm in the process of consolidating my TV, Telephone and Broadband into one bundle. The "BT Vision Unlimited" looks ideal.
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    Comment From Paul
    Is there a estimated date that fast path will be available ?                                           
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    Martin S.
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    I'm an existing customer.                                                                                       
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    Charles
     No, 'fraid not, Paul.                                                                                                    
    7:19
    Comment From Neil Potter
    thinking about re-joining BT just for Infinity product(s)                                    
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    Comment From Paul
    existing customer here                                                                                     
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    I've recently ordered my Infinity package, installation is due the 22nd.            
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    KerryG
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    7:24
    Comment From Helen
    I've already checked there's nothing interfering with the Hub.                              
    7:24
    Comment From Helen
    I don't have a Hub3, both the one that is currently connected, and the old one I have in the box are Hub 2.
    7:25
    Comment From Chris
    Yes, going from 3mb to an estimated 50mb+ is quite the upgrade, I would even be happy if it was merely a 10MB upgrade. - If I remember correctly FTTC is around(if not the same) price as standard broadband these days.
    7:26
    Charles
    Helen - could you post your issue in the Bt Infinity forum and one of our mods will look into this for you.
    7:26
    Comment From Kevin
    My install is planned for the 28th May my question is i have my master socket downstairs directly below the room i want my fttc modem installed is it possible to have the modem upstairs with the extension cable ?
    7:27
    Comment From Mike B
    I have an istalation question. I understand that the modem for Infinity needs to be sited close to the BT phone socket. Am I right in thinking that the modem is then connected via a Cat 5/6 cable to the wireless router situated elsewhere in the house? Does this impact on the speed?
    7:27
    Comment From Helen
    Ok charles, I will do..                                                                                    
    7:28
    Comment From Neil Potter
    On the subject of Powerline Adaptors (PA's) - I have a unique setup here at home whereby I would need to utilise 4 x PA's. Are there any known performance issues sharing data, experiencing latency or dropped packets from Desktop PC's all connected via PA's at the same time?
    7:28
    Martin S.
    Kevin / Mike B: The engineer can use an extension cable up to 30m long to help position your equipment where you want it - this should not affect your speed.
    7:29
    Comment From Eric Simpson
    I have bt broadband .. I am currently getting 3M download. I have two "estimates" from the BT site. One says I should get between 10-17 ... the other which does some sort of check/diagnostic (and appears to be the real thing) says I should get between 1-4. We are meant to get Infinity next month. How would that impact me?
    7:31
    Charles
    Hi neil - good question. I've found from experience that powerline performance is very much dependent on the adaptor manufacturer and your home environment, specifically how 'clean' your electrical spectrun is. All I can say is give it a try. That said, i would always recommend an Ethernet connection for the fastest and most stable speeds.
    7:31
    Martin S.
    Hi Eric. You can find your predicted BT Infinity speed (if it is available on your line) at bt.com/infinity and entering your number into the availability checker
    7:31
    Comment From Simon
    hi, really I'm just asking a tech question - can the bt home hub port forward?
    7:32
    Comment From Eric Simpson
    Does my question pop up only when it comes up the queue?
    7:33
    KerryG
    Hi Eric - Yes, they will flow in as they get answered - it helps to make the chat easier to read as the Q & As flow in a reasonable order. 
    Great questions coming through... lots more to get through...been a quick 33 mins! 
    7:33
    Charles
    Hi simon - I'm assuming you're talking about the Hub 3 (our latest Hub). Yes, it does support port forwarding. You can set this up via the configuration menu in your Hub. See instructions in your Hub user guide for how to do this. 
    7:33
    Comment From Glynn
    Will BT Retail be selling fibre-on-demand at an affordable cost for home users?
    7:35
    Comment From guilbo
    Hello folks. I have a question. We often see on the Vision forum that users start having problems with their service on Infinity that they weren't having with ADSL. Do you know of anything that would cause this?
    7:35
    Martin S.
    Hi Glynn, we are currently reviewing Fibre on Demand and have not yet announced any pricing or availability details.
    7:36
    Comment From Chris
    How reliable is that checker by chance?                                                         
    7:37
    Comment From Paul (Heanor)
    Also I am booked for installation on 22nd May                                 
    7:37
    KerryG
    Nice one Paul  You'll be enjoying super fast speeds then too                                                  
    7:38
    Charles
    HI guilbo - I'm not aware of any technical issues for Vision customer regrading to Infinity. We have hundreds of orders go through each week. If the problem persists, I would suggest customers contact the Infinity helpdesk.
    7:38
    Comment From Neil Potter
    Thanks for your reply Charles - If I could ask, the PA's you supply with the current BT Vision boxes are manufactured by Simpler Networks - would I need to purchase identical PA's from the same manufacturer for extending my network? Will BT Retail sell me these as an additional extra? This will be my last question - I feel I have been fortunate to have two answered already 
    7:39
    Martin S.
    Hi Chris - The speeds estimated in the checker are a very good indication of actual speeds, but we can only know the exact speed once installed.
    7:39
    Comment From Eric Simpson
    it says not available yet. I am just frustrated because I get faster speed from my little Android phone using it as a hotspot. If there is a bottleneck somewhere in the system, would fibre really make a difference
    7:41
    Comment From Kevin
    I have been given the estimate of 59.4Mb download 20.0Mb upload will this be accurate?
    7:42
    Charles
    Hi neil - yes you should always stick to the same model for all your PA's. I am pretty sure that additional Vision PA's can be bought from the BT Shop, and these should be fine. I have had 70mbps out of mine! seewww.bt.com/shop
    7:43
    Martin S.
    Eric - Generally fibre can make a very significant difference to overall speeds, though individual increases can't be guaranteed. If / when it becomes available on your line, the checker will tell you how much of a difference it could make to you.
    7:43
    Comment From Chris
    I'm assuming it's based on the length of copper from my house to the Green Cab. - The exchange is 2miles~ away from me and the said Cab. Will this also effect my speed?
    7:45
    Charles
    Hi Kevin - our estinmates are as accurate as we can make them, but your actual speed will depend on your underlying phone line speed. We will only know your true speed once Infinity is live - it will then train to your optimal line speed, which should be approx as shown by your prediction.
    7:45
    KerryG
    Glad to see you all keeping Charles and Martin busy here... keep the questions coming in, we're in the last 15 mins now...
    7:45
    Martin S.
    Chris - Yes, your speed is primarily affected by the total amount of copper between you and the exchange. With FTTC fibre products, the old copper between the exchange and the cabinet is replaced by fibre, meaning less copper overall and faster speeds. 
    7:45
    Comment From Lewis
    Why does DLM take so long to take interleaving off?                                     
    7:45
    Comment From Neil Potter
    Thank you very much for your time this evening Charles / Martin / Kerry. It's nice to see these types of events becoming more accessible to your customers and I for one feel I've got a lot from joining you all this evening 
    7:46
    Martin S.
    Thanks Neil - you're welcome!                                                                                  
    7:46
    KerryG
    Great stuff Neil.... glad you've found it useful.                                                                     
    7:46
    Comment From Chris
    The Cab is 500-600 metres away from me, and according this graph the the BT estimated speed is just right on that.
    7:47
    Charles
    Hi Lewis - DLM will apply interleaving only if it detects an ustable line. It will not apply interleaving unless it is warranted.
    7:47
    Comment From Kevin
    I guess when i get my infinity installed a lot of sites and links will still be on dsl or adsl+ or even slower and the speed my end wont improve the speed there end ie my speed will depend on the site i visit and there upload speed for my download speed?
    7:48
    Comment From Dom
    I am moving to BT infinity, but I had to order my line and then wait for it to be activated before ordering infinity. Is this a technical issue or a process at BT issue?
    7:49
    Charles
    Evening Dom. It's a process issue - we can only provide Infinity once a Retail line is up and running.
    7:49
    Comment From William Sinclair
    Hi guys. I've upgraded to Infinity 2 with an estimated max download of 49.5 Mbps however my IP profile hasn't budged from the Infinity 1 value of ~30. Any thoughts?
    7:50
    Comment From Dom
    Thanks - this is a great service BT, keep it up!                                                   
    7:51
    Martin S.
    Hi Kevin - yes, some websites that you visit may not be able to keep up with your superfast speeds! We aim to give you the best speeds at your end, but sadly there may sometimes be bottlenecks in the wider internet.
    7:51
    Charles
    HI William - sorry for the delay in responding. Best thing to do is to reboot your Hub, then it should pick up the new speed. If not, contact the Infinity forum.
    7:51
    Comment From Lewis
    What would cause an unstable line?                                                        
    7:53
    KerryG
    @wiesiek @ Martin (not S) thanks for your questions, but as they're individual issues we can't pick them up as part of this chat. Please post in the forum and we can help.
    7:53
    Comment From guilbo
    Apologies in advance for my ignorance. If Infinity is installed does the 'phone continue to use copper all the way to the exchange or does this also go over fibre?
    7:54
    Charles
     Hi lewis - the most common cause is interference on your phone line, in which case DLM will moderate your BB speed until the line stablises. There'smore lot of info on this at the Infinity FAQs on BT.com
    7:54
    Martin S.
    Hi Guilbo - good question - yes, the phone still uses the copper.                                          
    7:54
    Comment From Paul (Heanor)
    Will downloading from such as Xbox market place or apple store as examples max out the connection?
    7:55
    Comment From Kevin
    Thanks to Martin, Kerry, and Charles for all your answers to the questions very much appreciated and a credit to BT Kevin  
    7:55

    Hi everyone
    Just a reminder that we have our Infinity Expert chat this evening at 7pm.  If for any reason you can't make the chat, you can PM me your questions in advance and we'll try to include them.  There will also be a replay available of the chat here on the same post after the event.
    Thx
    Kerry
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  • Cannot send emails in Mac Mail using third party SMTP via BT Infinity Broadband

    EUREKA!!
    I have a Mac Book Pro and recently had my home broadband upgraded to BT Infinity. Prior to this upgrade sending emails via my Mac mail was working perfectly. Since the new installation I could no send any external emails using the Hotmail.co.uk or 123-Reg.co.uk smtp outgoing servers. Googlemail.com was ok.? very strange.
    So when I connected the same macbook to other wireless connections it would work perfectly.???
    So after many hours wasted messing around, I managed to get the right person at the right time via BT helpline in the UK not India. (India helpine just say "we are not trained in Apple".
    So the very polite man from UK Helpline provided me with the solution.
    GO TO > Apple Icon top left > System Preferences > Network > Wireless >
    Select your wireless connection > Click Advanced lower right on popup
    Select DNS tab
    Click on the + under DNS left pane and type the following :- 208.67.222.222
    Click Apply
    BINGO!!!!
    I hope this helps someone, as I know how painful these types of issues can be.
    Cheers

    Hi Haggie
    Had a similar experience but couldn't work out why macbook was working and imac not. I hate verification with bt. Anyway, tried your method and as you say eureka! Did have imac plugged in before and put it on wifi to try your fix  I will try plugging broadband back in to see if that works and will post back but at the moment just enjoying the moment!
    Just to say a big thank you for not only sorting the problem out but equally importantly posting the answer! Too many people sort out their problems without letting other people know how!
    Many thanks

  • Connection issue on new infinity

    Hi, would appreciate if anyone can shed some light on the issue I'm having.
    I live a fair distance from the local village, so I can't get full infinity, but I do have infinity to a certain point, then copper cable for the rest of the distance.
    Well aware I'm not going to get amazing speeds, but I was estimated at getting between 11 and 18Mb (compared to my old 1.5Mb it's a huge upgrade).
    Got switched on yesterday, and was slightly disappointed when I tried my first download. I registered max speeds of around 6Mb, so did a bit of snooping around looking at my settings etc, tried a router reset and looked at the connection speed. Something I also noticed was my upload speed is even worse than when I was just on normal BB, used to be circa 0.3Mb upload, now 0.16.
    So I checked the connection status on the router, and it's showing a connection speed of 14.xxMb and upload was something daft like 0.18. So the upload speed marries up (even though it's rediculously slow) but the download speed doesn't make sense, considering I'm connected at 14Mb but I'm only getting download speeds of 6Mb (600kbps, whereas I surely should be seeing speeds of 1.4/5mbps)?
    Am I right to think something is amiss here? To be fair I really don't mind the speed at the moment, I can finally stream youtube at 720, whereas 360 was pushing it before
    There's a couple of thing's I'm going to try tonight, as I'm using a very old long run of cat4 to connect to the router at the moment. So I'll move the router close to the pc and try the cable that came with the hub. Also, haven't tried wireless speeds yet which would also show a problem with the wired connection.
    I would phone up BT but really don't want to talk to India again as you just go round and round in circles.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    Cat4 cable consists of four unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) copper wires with a data rate of 16 Mbit/s and performance of up to 20 MHz.
    Can you post your helpdesk data from the HH5 please? These are in Troubleshooting/Helpdesk on the web interface at http://192.168.1.254 or http://bthomehub.home
    Please miss out any data you don't want to post
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  • A Tale of Woe --- Infinity Installation

    It's now over a month since I originally ordered infinity and telephone with BT, and I have neither - both have never worked at all. There have been multiple failings on the part of BT, from two engineer visits (who failed to properly document the fault) and the technical faults team (who did not listen to me, did not record information properly and did not properly assess the fault).
    I've been very patient and polite throughout the whole endeavour; however I’m now being told that I have to wait another month to have my broadband and phone line installed. This is not acceptable, and is over 2 months since I originally ordered! If BT had listened to me, or functioned in any type of efficient manner, my situation would now be resolved. I can't even find the correct place to document a complaint, so public is always best.
    Timeline.
    14/12/2013. Ordered Unlimited BT Infinity 2 and phone line. THIS IS A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALLATION. We had just moved into a new property, and have NOT had a broadband or telephone connection before at a previous property.
    24/12/2013. Engineer arrived to install broad & phone. He failed to get anything (either phone line or broadband) working. He said that there was an issue with PCP. The line had been set up on the incorrect "green box" - one that was over a mile away, instead of the box just down the road from us. He said, it looked as though the line had been transferred from the previous owners to us, instead of being set up new. He said that he would report this back to BT, as it required an Openreach engineer to sort it out. HE DID NOT DO THIS.
    27/12/2013. I called BT, and went through an automated system. This tested the line and found a fault on the line, generating an automated response for the fault on both the phone line and the broadband.
    27/12/2013. I called BT again, as I was sure that I should explain what had happened with the engineer (and explain the problem with the PCP) - I was confident that the automated system would not be enough to get this problem fixed in the most efficient way. I was told that a general fault had been found in BT's network, and that it would be fixed on the 06/01/2014. Instead of listening to me about the issue with the PCP (which had been explained to me by the engineer), the CSO bluntly refused to take the issue further, stating that it was a "general problem in BT's network" that would resolve my issue once dealt with. As above, this is NOT a BT network problem, it is a problem that is specifically to do with the property and how it's been routed. I was told that if it did not resolve the problem I would be entitled to "compensation" - which I am now due. I specifically asked the CSO to make a note of this on the file.
    02/01/2014. The Broadband fault was closed with absolutely zero feedback to myself or anyone looking into it.
    02/01/2014. I contacted BT via chat so see why the broadband fault had been closed when it was not working. I was told that the broadband would not work with the phone line error. No explanation as to why it had been closed was forthcoming. CSO was blunt and unhelpful.
    06/01/2014. The Openreach engineer arrived. Lo and behold, he told me EXACTLY the same thing as the previous engineer - the whole set up from the beginning was incorrect. We have been set up on the wrong PCP, and the line needs to be set up again from the sales end. He did a 5 minute line test and then left. I had to wait 10 days, for a 5 minute chat to tell me something that I already knew, and that, had the CSO I spoke to on the 27th listened to me, would probably be fixed by now. THE ENGINEER DID NOT REPORT THIS.
    07/01/2014. Once again it was up to me to contact BT to have the matter resolved. Spoke to tech help and requested that this matter be looked into urgently. I was told that the engineers marked the fault as fixed – contrary to what the engineer himself told me yesterday. Apparently this “fault” needs to be sent back AGAIN to the engineers to get reinvestigated, and I would be contacted in 24 hours. I said that I would like to hear back within one hour (as I just keep getting fobbed off), and the CSO “Ratna” agreed that I would be contacted at the time specified today by them or their supervisor. The call-back came (2 hours late), which was then apparently too late for the CSO to contact the relevant team and hear back from them today – so they will be calling me tomorrow. BT has now agreed that there is a “cabling issue”.
    08/01/2014. Had a call from BT at 1pm today – unfortunately this was during my lunch break and I missed it. No message was left to inform of what it was regarding, or what the call-back number was.
    08/01/2014. Spent half an hour in a queue waiting to speak to a chat agent only to be told (when I reached number 1 on the queue), that the session had been cancelled as there we “no agents available”
    08/01/2014. Went through the chat queue again however Ratna had apparently gone home for the day, so I spoke to Sanjog instead. I was then told that the engineers need more time to check the fault and that I would get a call back tomorrow. Sanjog then proceeded to reject the “cleared” mark on the fault (again?), and tell me that the engineering team close at 5 so he would be unable to contact them now. 
    10/01/2014. Didn’t get a call back yesterday, so spoke to chat again today. I was told that the line was connected to the wrong distribution point (as I told the BT on the 27th December), and that the technical faults team would be unable to deal with it. I was then told that I would need to speak to customer options, and that they would need to place a new order for the line. The CSO on chat, then called me to transfer me to customer options. After about half an hour on hold, I spoke to the same CSO, and was told that customer options would actually be unable to deal with it, and that she would need to send an email to the engineers and that they would be contacting me directly today.
    10/01/2014. Spoke to the sales team this afternoon who went through the process of setting up a new order. I was told that I would need to wait until the 27th January for the engineers to come out to install the new line. Half way through setting up the order I was put on hold and the line cut out after about 10 minutes.
    10/01/2014. I expected an immediate call back to complete the order however this did not occur. Instead, it was left up to me to call back and spend an hour on the phone trying to find someone to complete the order. I eventually found the same operator who completed the order for me. I was then told that I would need to wait until 25th February 2014 for the new line to be installed. I said this was not good enough (and she agreed) as it was nearly a month since placing the original order, so she sent an “email” to her manager, who would call me back to arrange a much closer date for the installation.
    14/01/2014. I never received a phone call from BT, so it was once again up to me to call and explain the same thing again, to try and have someone bring the installation date forward. I spoke to order management who (once again agreed) that the time I had been waiting was beyond ridiculous. So had to “email” an escalation claim to OpenReach in order to try to get that date pushed forward, which she did.
    16/01/2014. I actually got a call back from BT! However, it was simply a rejection message “All engineering resource in your area has been allocated to work on repairs to the network as a result of the recent bad weather across the uk”. So they were unable to bring the date of the appointment forward. I find this hard to believe that BT cannot spare one engineer for < 1 hour to install a new line for me, given the huge amount of time it’s taken to get to this point.
    Summary of Failings:
    I was told what the issues were by two separate engineers. A new line had to be installed to the nearest PCP by placing a new order with sales. Neither properly documented this with the faults team or followed up on what needed doing. It was left up to me to try and explain.
    The faults team categorically dismissed everything I said, and did their own thing. By following that processes, it took over 2 weeks for the original fault with the line to be discovered. If either the engineers had properly documented the faults, or the faults team had listened to me at the very beginning of the process, the new line would have been set up, and I would now have broadband.
    On multiple occasions I did not receive call-backs that were promised and it was left up to me to contact BT. This was a failure on all fronts, technical support, engineers and sales were all supposed to call me at some point, including management, supervisors and CSO’s. This is a failure from bottom to top.
    All correspondence between different teams appears to have been completed via email. I asked on multiple occasions to have the matter resolved there and then, and was always told that it would take 24 to 48 hours to complete. This is ridiculous that apparently the teams have no direct line of communication. It would have taken a 5 minute conversation with the correct person to sort out the entire mess.
    What Now?
    So, who do I contact to complain about this? I've had enough of the useless chat & telephone CSO's, and I'm not going to wait 14 days for a response from a letter. Does BT not have a complaints email address?

    Why is so hard to complain to BT?
    I just went round in circles with a chat representative who categorically refused to put me on to their manager. It states in BT's complaints procedure that:
    "We aim to resolve your problem to your complete satisfaction as quickly as possible. If we can't resolve your problem immediately we will agree a course of action with you."
    I've now been waiting 3 days to be contacted via the forums mods. I would hope that this has been processed as an "expedite" case, due to the fact that it's been over a month since the original order was made. This is neither quick, nor satisfactory.
    I just want to speak to a manger who has the ability to do something. I'm  absolutely fed up of being fobbed off by CSO's. Take a quick look at the chat transcript below if you fancy a lesson in how not to deal with a customer who would like to complain. . .
    *Transcript Removed.
    The "complaints specialist" CSO above did absolutely nothing to resolve my complaint and then closed the chat session!
    This is seriously bad practice ^^ BT's complaints team are not even following their own complaints guidelines.
    I really hope that this is an isolated case. If all cases are dealt with such disdain then BT will be suffering a Class Action Lawsuit against them in the near future. I've now wasted such a huge amount of time trying to get this issue sorted satisfactorily and not one single person in BT cares.

  • Outrageous bill and excessing usage

    Are we signed up to play the role of "the rich and ignorant?"  Evidentlywe are, bc I have been getting outrageous bills and claims that I am using 20 g each month all of a sudden and there is no way.  Before the 4g (4th generation) service, my family had no problems doing what we wanted through our tablets or phones.  Now, we have to "starve" our enjoyment of the digital age and education time due to being charged these fees.  We see no difference that would validate Verizon's outrageous bill.  The service is no faster than it was and it actually drags like it s r struggles to load our pages.  So Verizon's answer is always to check to see if this is running in the background, etc.  NO....WE CHECKED EVERYTHING ALREADY.  EVERYTHING IS TURNED OFF LIKE WE HAVE A BASIC PHONE AND ITS STILL HAPPENING.  Why should we have to spend countless hours doing what verizon should've done before they pushed these phones and service in our faces.  It's Verizon's job to give their customers the best Problem-free service.  Not ours.  We have jobs.  The Times we have to spend on our devices is supposed to be for our enjoyment or whatever else we may choose to do with it.  Not working for verizon and receiving A bill for it.
    Anyone care to fix this?  verizon perhaps.....

    Original thread: doubled data usage with no apparebt cause
    Note: Creating numerous threads will not speed up a resolution, but cause more confusion.

  • BT Infinity Extremely Slow Upload (380 Kb/s)

    I switched from Sky ADSL2+ to BT Infinity FTTC on 9/01/2014.
    When I purchased BT Infinity on 27/12/13 in their confirmation e-mail BT wrote:
    We estimate your download speed will be between 16.3Mb and 22.5Mb.
    We estimate your upload speed will be between 2.2Mb and 4Mb.
    I am about 1 mile away from my cabinet and connected with a copper line so these relatively low estimated speeds look reasonable to me.
    My Sky ADSL 2+ Connection was providing 6.5Mb/s download and 0.85Mb/s upload so I thought it was worth switching.
    SKY ADSL 2+
    Every day since activation my BT Infinity speed has hovered around 15Mb/s download (fine) and 0.4Mb/s upload, sometimes dipping to as low as 0.2Mb/s but never exceeding 0.5Mb/s, which is negatively affecting my internet experience.
    BT Infinity FTTC
    I contacted BT several times and was instructed to measure the speed using a wired connection with speedtest.btwholesale.com, reset the hub, reboot my machine and so forth. Eventually various line tests were performed and a line fault was registered. A BT engineer visited on 25/01/14 and confirmed that my home wiring was fine, only one socket is wired with no extensions and the newest openreach face plate is fitted and working correctly. He tried also using a Home Hub 4 with separate modem. The same speeds were achieved. He tried switching the twisted pair connecting my master socket to the point at which the line enters my property. The same speeds were achieved. He informed me that although my line is quite long I am within the attenuation/capacitance limits and there seems to be no fault on the line. He recommended that I should request a broadband speed boost visit and that an engineer may be able to change the pair used to connect me to the cabinet which may improve the speeds. I contacted BT today and they refused to comply with this stating there was absolutely nothing further they could do to increase my upload speed.
    BTW BT Infinity FTTC
    I have a few questions:
    1) How can BT so accurately estimate the download but not the upload speed?
    2) Is the fact that my upload is 5x slower than estimated whilst the estimated download is accurate an indication of a problem with my line or with the setup in the cabinet or at the exchange?
    3) How can the ADSL2+ provide double the upload speed of VDSL?
    4) When the BT engineer connected his kit directly to the twisted pair it reported that the maximum download rate was approximately 12Mb/s and upload 1.2Mb/s. How can the download increase to 15Mb/s after the filter and modem are attached yet the upload drop by a factor of 3?
    5) Is there any way to end this madness? I'd like to at least have my old upload speed back.
    6) Since BT have signed the Ofcom Voluntary Code of Practice on Broadband Speeds which specifies:
    “If ... the customer continues to receive an access line speed significantly lower than the estimate provided at point of sale the ISPs should offer the customer with an alternative broadband package. Consumers should not incur any change of package penalty in order to migrate onto a different broadband package under these circumstances other than those charges that would have applied had they signed up to that lower package in the first instance.” I, of course, have the right to switch to a cheaper package from BT such as ADSL2+ without a charge. Is it likely this will again double my upload speed?
    (All speeds mentioned were measured using a wired gigabit ethernet connection to the home hub 5 modem/router and the website speedof.me, these results match within error those taken using speedtest.btwholesale.com. No wireless devices were connected to the hub and only the speed test was running on an Intel Core i5, 8GB Ram, ASUS P8Z77-V LX machine. They agree within error with measurements taken using a Mac Book Pro with 5GHz wi-fi.)
    Home Hub 5 Stats:
    1. Product name:
    BT Home Hub
    2. Serial number:
    3. Firmware version:
    Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.173.1.6 (Type A) Last updated 10/01/14
    4. Board version:
    BT Hub 5A
    5. VDSL uptime:
    0 days, 00:41:10
    6. Data rate:
    387 / 15534
    7. Maximum data rate:
    449 / 15779
    8. Noise margin:
    8.2 / 6.4
    9. Line attenuation:
    0.0 / 32.7
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