Bug report - Grid edit for item help

Apex 4.0.2
Page 4000.408 in the Apex Builder (Grid Edit Item Help) can be used to bulk edit item help text. Tried to use this to set item help for a bunch of items. But it appears that the page only shows items that already have some help text. I guess the recommendation is to use the Seed Item Help Text button on that page to set some default text for all items and and then use this page to tweak as needed.
I am not sure I agree with this. Since this page (408) is a tabular form anyway, why not let us Add or Edit rows directly? Looking at the query behind the page, a simple tweak would make it so
from WWV_FLOW_STEP_ITEM_HELP h,
       wwv_flow_step_items i,
       wwv_flow_field_templates t
where h.flow_id = :fb_flow_id
   and i.id = h.flow_item_id(+)
   and i.item_field_template = t.id (+)by just changing h.flow_id to i.flow_id . The query formation is a little non-standard as it outer-joins the wwv_flow_step_items table and also puts a exact match predicate on it. Tom says it better than I can.
Update - This page is really broken. I spent 30 minutes on filling in the Help Text boxes and clicked Apply Changes and none of the changes were saved, they went back to the default seed text. Argh! Examining the page doesn't show why the MRU save process didn't fire, maybe some subtle bug.
Can someone from the Oracle Apex team can review and comment? Thanks

Hi VANJ,
Regarding:
Update - This page is really broken. I spent 30 minutes on filling in the Help Text boxes and clicked Apply Changes and none of the changes were saved, they went back to the default seed text. Argh! Examining the page doesn't show why the MRU save process didn't fire, maybe some subtle bug.I believe this was caused by bug #10382982 and has already been fixed for APEX 4.1. I tested in the sample application on a 4.1 instance and was able to update item level help on this page. Can you confirm this also works for you on apex.oracle.com?
Regards,
Anthony.

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