Business Area and Salary Posting
Hi Experts,
I have Maintained IT0001 with one Business Area. And in the cost element (WBS maintained in IT0027) Business Area is different. Now while posting some GLs are showing double entry (ex. Net Salary Payable). If I change business area same as WBS in IT0001, posting is correct. But client wants cost to be booked in one Business area and Liability to be booked in different business area. is it possible? if yes then how?
please advise...
Nasim
any comment please
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WBS, Business Area and Profit Center not flowing in GR/IR Account
Hello Experts,
I have come across a very strange situation. I have two MIGO documents which are showing different posting characteristics:
1) FI Document 5000000553
In this document, the Business area and profit center is flowing in GR/IR Clearing Account (15660000) but WBS element is not flowing to this line item.
Screen shot is as follows:-
As you can see from the above screen shot that, for GR/IR Account 15660000. Only Business Area and Profit Center are flowing and WBS Element is not coming.
2. FI Document 5000015602
In this document, the WBS element is going in GR/IR Clearing Account (15660000) but Business area and profit center is not flowing to this line item
Screen Shot is as follows:-
From the above screen shot, Business Area and Profit Center are not flowing but WBS Element is coming.
Could you please let me know what could be the possible reason for this behavior of both the documents.?
Regards,
AmitHi Saurabh,
Its great to see your reply. Yes, I know that currencies and posting dates are different. But that's the way it is. One document is for fiscal year 2014 and other is for 2013. There is nothing related to currency and posting date which was causing the strange behavior of the system.
However, our team analyzed the issue and found that only for service material having a special valuation type related to services is causing the problem and still we are diagnosing the other possible root cause as well.
Thanks for your co-operation and suggestion.
Regards,
Amit -
Business Area and Profit Center In Document Splitting
Hi,
We are using Business area and Profit Center characteristics for document splitting.
In one transaction, the Business area and profit centers are defaulted through the cost center.
The document is successfully split in respect of the business area, but the profit center is not filled, thereby giving error while posting.
Please suggest.Hi,
Actually, we have all three scenarios, profit center, segment and business area..
As suggested, we have checked all field status relevant.. profit center is optional in all cases..
Now, Pls consider the scenario without business area in document splitting characteristics..
If I post an expense, profit center is picked thru cost center and segment thru profit ctr. The vendor or bank line item inherits the characteristic values from the previous line item.
Now, in addition we have business areas in doc splitting characteristics.
Business area, again is populated thru cost centers, along with profit ctr and segment.
The business area gets correctly populated in the vendor line item.. but the profit center doesnt.
Please let us know the reason..
Edited by: Swapvik on Mar 23, 2009 4:07 PM -
Business area and profit centre field to make mandatory in all transactions
Dear Team,
My client wants to make the above mentioned fields mandatory while entering any business transactions. viz. MM,FI / SD transactions. He wants to capture the details Business area wise as well as Profit Centre wise.
Please let me know whether
1. I need to make "Business Area" as well as "Profit Center" field mandatory in "ALL THE FIELD STATUS GROUPS"of particular field status varient. If not which particular field dtatus groups to use. &
2.Whether "Profit Center" or "Cost Center" to make mandatory and to which GL.
Please help.
Waiting for your reply.
Thanks and Regards
SagarHi
A good way to make this Check compulsory in case Document Splitting is active in your system.
Follow the path
IMG>Financial Accounting (New)>General Ledger Accounting (New)>Business Transactions>Document Splitting>Define Document Splitting Chracteristics for General Ledger Accounting.
Here you can make splitting active for Both business Area and profit center.
If any where in the posting system does not find either of Business Area or Profit Center, it would give an error
Thanks & regards
Sanil K Bhandari -
Error with Business area and profit center
Hello Guru's,
I have an issue when posting the stock through t-code MB1C and 521 movement type. We have assigned business area and profit centers for plants as below:
For Plant 1000,
Business Area: 1100
Profit center: 1100
And For Plant 2000,
Business Area: 1200
Profit center: 1200
But when I am assigning plant 2000, and assigning business area and profit center as 1200 respectively. System by default is picking as 1100 with a warning message.
Please help this resolving this issue, I want the system to take the correct assigned BA and Profit center.
Regards,
Varun SiddharthHi Varun,
One of the possible ways is, to assign a business area to the cobination of Plant and Division in OMJ7 (Assignment is possible for other combinations as well). Later you can define a substitution rule so that, a profit center is substituted to the combination of Plant and Business Area.
Hope it helps you.
Regards,
Ravi Kumar -
Difference between business area and sales area
Hi
I am swetha i have one doubt
1) what is the buisiness area and what purpose we use the business area
2) what is sales area and what purpose we use the sales area
3)what is the main Difference between business area and sales area.
Regards
SwethaHii..
Business Areas in SAP are used to differentiate transactions originating from different points/lines/locations in business. Let me give some examples to elucidiate:-
A company (say, ABC) is a huge company and has a variety of businesses under it. Let us say that it typically operates in 3 different domains like machinery manufacturing, trading and assembling of machine parts.
There are 2 options here now -
1. Either create different company codes for the 3 business operations (which would be the easiest and require no creativity)
or
2.) Create each of these business lines into business areas (the better option).
The advantages of using the second option is:
1. You can use these business areas if other company codes require the same areas
2. The configuration is simpler as in case of company code, you would require to go through the entire configuration of creating Chart of Accounts, Fiscal Year variants, posting periods variants and so on. In the business area option, you just need to attach it to the company code and the rest of the details in Business area is attached by default from the company code you are using it in.
3. Using the options in controlling (EC-PCA, Enterprise Controlling, Profit Centre Accounting), you can even draw up Balance Sheets and PL statements for your business areas and hence this is used for management accounting in some companies (like HP, Dell, etc) when it wants to know the operating profits for different business areas/lines.
The above was an example when the company wanted to separate entries according to the lines it operates in... the other case could be when it wants to find out profitability during its operations in cities and differentiates these cities into Business
Areas...
Business Areas are not much relevant in FI but are much more relevant in CO.
Hope this clears.
What is mySAP SD?
The SAP sales and distribution is part of the logistics module that support your customers, starting from quotations, sales order and all the way towards billing the customer. It is tightly integrated with the MM and PP functional modules. It allows companies to input their customer sales price, check for open orders and forecast etc.
The most important basic functional features in the sd module are:
- Pricing - Availability Check
- Credit Management - Material Determination
- Output Determination - Text Processing
- Tax Determination - Account Determination
Regards,
Aakash -
EUL tables, Business Area and Work books!
Hi,
I would like to know , how are the business area connected to Workbooks! through which EUL Tables!
Business area is stored in EUL4_BAS table
Workbooks are stored in EUL4_DOCUMENTS table
BUT HOW ARE THESE TABLES CONNECTED?
I want to create a report, which should contain all the business areas and the workbooks related to each business area!Duplicate post. See the Re: Last run of the Report?
Cheers, APC -
EUL Tables, Business Area and Workbook
Hi,
I would like to know , how are the business area connected to Workbooks! through which EUL Tables!
Business area is stored in EUL4_BAS table
Workbooks are stored in EUL4_DOCUMENTS table
BUT HOW ARE THESE TABLES CONNECTED?
I want to create a report, which should contain all the business areas and the workbooks related to each business area!Hi
already replied ,see ealry post
NP -
Is business area and industry sector are same.
Hi All,
is company code is related to industry sector in any way???
is industry sector related thro business area then, or is business area and industry sector are one and the same.
Thanks
SathsihDear Satish,
Business Area - Organizational unit of external accounting that corresponds to a specific business segment or area of responsibility in a company. Movements in value entered in Financial Accounting are assigned to business areas.
Financial statements can be created for business areas for internal purposes.
The definition of the business area organizational unit is optional.
Business areas are used in external segment reporting (over and above company codes), based on the significant areas of operation of a company (for example, product lines, branches).
To define business areas, choose the following in Customizing for the Enterprise Structure: Definition -> Financial Accounting -> Define Business Area.
If you have defined business areas, the transaction figures for the G/L accounts are managed separately for internal evaluation purposes. You can therefore create internal financial statements for business areas.
If you want to create financial statements for business areas, you must make sure that the Business area field is ready for input in all the line items. To do this, proceed as follows in Customizing for Financial Accounting: Financial Accounting Global Settings -> Business Area -> Enable Business Area Balance Sheet.
To post items in a business area, enter the business area when you enter the business transaction. However, the business area can also be derived from other account assignments, such as the cost center. To enable the system to do this, you must define the business area in the cost center master record.
If you enter a cross-company code document, you can post to different business areas across all company codes in one document. As a result, any number of combinations of company code and business area are possible.
Industry Sector - When you create a material master record, you are required to classify the material according to industry sector and material type.
The standard system contains the following industry sectors. The ID used to identify the industry sector internally appears in parentheses.
· Plant engineering and construction (A)
· Chemical industry (C)
· Mechanical engineering (M)
· Pharmaceuticals (P)
The other sectors are for retail.
Regards,
Naveen. -
Validation code for business area and cenvat clearing accounts
Dear Friends,
In order to prevent the users from entering the wrong business area in the correct company code, I have written the validation as below.
Prerequisite : BSEG-BUKRS = '1000'
Check : BSEG-GSBER = 'ABC' OR
BSEG-GSBER = 'DEF' OR
BSEG-GSBER = 'GHI' OR
BSEG-GSBER = 'JKL'
Message : E - 023 - Please Check the Business Area.
While trying to post Miro, cenvat clearing accounts is not picking up business area and giving an error "Please check business area" ,
I want the validation rule not to consider or evade the cenvat clearing accounts and post the miro.
The user is also making another mistake. Ex: in the debit he should enter ABC(Business area) and in Credit also he should enter ABC (Business area). He is wrongly entering GHI which is affecting the trial balance.
Please suggest what changes to be done to the validation.
Regards
Sridharthe issue is closed
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Vendor Ageing Report Business Area and Profit Center wise
Dear Experts,
I have a requirement where user wants a Report for Vendor Ageing Business Area and Profit Center wise.I checked Standard T Codes but the same were Business Area wise but i could'nt find Profit Center wise Report.If their is any standard functionality then please advice.
We are using SAP ECC 6.0 Classic GL with Spl Purpose Ledger active.Can someone please advice can i derive such a report through Report Painter.If possible please advice in details.
Your Valuable inputs shall be appreciated....
Regards
RahulHi Durga,
Can you please elaborate further on the same how you are determining the Report in FBL1N.What are the prerequisited to be taken care of and some further details on the same.
My Bus Area is not as same as Profit Center eg
BA PC
FXRT RT0001 / 2 / 3
TMMG TM0001/ 2 / 3
LTOB LO0001/ 2 / 3
I checked in my system but we do not have the Program for the following T Codes
S_PCO_36000218 - Segment Receivables
S_PCO_36000219 - Segment Payables
S_AC0_52000887 - Profit Center Receivables
S_AC0_52000888 - Profit Center Payables
Regards
Rahul -
Business area and Sales organisation
Can any 1 of u tell me the difference btw Business area and Sales organisation
Dear Venkata Krishnan
Business areas are primarily used to facilitate external segment reporting across company codes, covering the company's main areas of operation (product lines, branches).
You can assign all balance sheet items, such as fixed assets, receivables, payables, and material stock, as well as the entire P&L statement directly to business areas. You can only assign banks, equity, and taxes manually to business areas indirectly. For this reason, it is not possible to create the legally-required financial statements and tax reports at business area level. Financial statements at business area level are therefore only suitable for internal reporting.
Sales Organisation is an organizational unit subdividing an enterprise according to the requirements of Sales. It is responsible for selling materials and services.
A sales organization can be subdivided into several distribution chains which determine the responsibility for a distribution channel.
Several divisions can be assigned to a sales organization which is responsible for the materials or services provided.
A sales area determines the distribution channel used by a sales organization to sell a divisionu2019s products.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Difference between Business area and profit center accounting
Hi Frnds,
Can any body explain about difference between business area and profit center accounting .Hi
Business area will have many profit centers. For example Vehicle is a business area in a company. Vehicle can be cars and Bikes etc. Here Vehicle is business area and Cars and Bike are profit centers. In broad Vehicle is a profit center. But as it has sub areas those are profit centers. So profit centers cannot be replaced with business area and vice versa. We can replace business area by Profit centre, only condition is that it should be in same controlling area. The business area is more like a business unit of a company. You can have multiple profit centers within a business area.
Main distinguish factor is that distribution and assessment in possible in profit center but not in business area.
One more distinction is that Business area need not be attached to any organisation structure. But profit centres can be created only under the controlling area. Business area can be across controlling area.
Business area concept is used for making stragic decisions by the management whereas the primary purpose of profit centre accounting is responsibility accounting.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/ff/277203deea11d3b5b4006094b9b0a5/frameset.htm -
How to install the EUL5 Business Area and seeded reports for Ora Apps 11i
Hi All,
We have to install the EUL5 Business Area and seeded reports for Ora Apps 11i.
I think there are scripts which need to be executed to create the BA and the Disco seeded reports. I am kind of confused about the whole think. Any pointers as to where to look foe the scripts would be really appreciated.
I am using disco version 10.1.2.48.18.
Thanks.Hi,
You need to work though Metalink Note 313418.1.
Rod West -
Business area and profit centre
Friends,
Please tell me difference between profit center and business areas. If reporting can be done using both of them in similar fashion, why can't only one of them be used, instead of using both of them?
There should be a logical distinction between them, please explain that.
Thanks,
AHi,
1. Main distinguishing factor is that Distribution or assessment within profit center can be done for allocation of overheads.
No such allocation functionality is possible within Business area.
2. Hierarchical structure for profit center can be created.
Hierarchical structure for business area is not possible.
3. Business area does not need to be attached to any organization structure.
But profit centers can be created under the controlling area.
4. PCA helps to arrive at profitability of business unit
Business area is used to segregate FI transactions pertaining to various
5. Profit Center Accounting as the Product manufactured.
Business area would have been useful only when the Areas of Business are Different.
6. Business area concept is used for making strategic decisions by the management whereas the primary purpose of profit center is accounting.
7. PCA would be much more suitable. You may need some derivation rules for Populating Profit centers, but it would be much more easier than using Business area and reconciling FI-CO on monthly basis.
8. The main difference between profit centers and business areas is that profit centers are used for internal management whereas business areas are geared more towards external purposes.
9. Business area satisfies accounting purpose while Profit Center satisfies CO purpose.
10. Business area was used as function oriented (e.g. SALES, ACCOUNTING etc)
as per old school where we used to separate B/S as per functionality. But Profit Center is more related with group of products or COS (COGS) view.
SKS
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