Business Area/profit Center Accounting

Dear All
I need your sugesstion
we neet to create the Financial statement at plant level.
for that Business are is ok or Profit center Accounting.?
what would be the benfit that you sugsest?

PROFIT CENTER IS GOOD COMPARED TO BUSINESS AREA BECAUSE REPORTS ARE NOT UPDATED AUTOMATICALLY

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Difference between Business Area & Profit Center Accounting

Can anybody help me out by explaining the difference between Business area and profit center? Because both the concepts are used to define a product line / function in a business,so why they are different?
Also let me know why business area concept is replaced by profit center?
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Sagar

hi
PCA:
Created per Controlling Area & Company Code [System validation at Company Code Level]
Data:Manual Entry
Derivation by referred cost object
Derivation from offsetting item based on the above mentioned rule
Periodic processing:Monthly period closing program to be executed
Distribution / Assessment possible [PCA Documents are created which can be verified by the auditor]
Report showing individual and all PCA totals to match Company Code Values GL Account wise can be created
other:Consolidation at PCA level
Multiple Valuation possible for PCA at
FI Level
Consolidation Level
Material Ledger concept for PCA for parallel valuation of materials
Business area:Independent Dimension
[Can be used across company codes u2013 Manual validation required to ensure Company Code-Business Area parity]
Data: Manual Entry
Derivation from Organization structure
Derivation by referred cost object
Derivation from offsetting item based on the above mentioned rule
Periodic processing:Monthly period closing program to be executed
Distribution / Assessment NOT possible
Report showing individual and all PCA totals to match Company Code Values GL Account wise available
Others:Consolidation at BA level
Multiple Valuation not possible at BA level
Material ledger concept NOT extended to Business Area
Further development for Business Area discontinued [Note 321190]
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Srilaskhmi

Validation between Business area & Profit Center

Dear All,
How can we validate Business area & profit center?
Regards,
Mahendra

hi
PCA:
Created per Controlling Area & Company Code [System validation at Company Code Level]
Data:Manual Entry
Derivation by referred cost object
Derivation from offsetting item based on the above mentioned rule
Periodic processing:Monthly period closing program to be executed
Distribution / Assessment possible [PCA Documents are created which can be verified by the auditor]
Report showing individual and all PCA totals to match Company Code Values GL Account wise can be created
other:Consolidation at PCA level
Multiple Valuation possible for PCA at
FI Level
Consolidation Level
Material Ledger concept for PCA for parallel valuation of materials
Business area:Independent Dimension
[Can be used across company codes u2013 Manual validation required to ensure Company Code-Business Area parity]
Data: Manual Entry
Derivation from Organization structure
Derivation by referred cost object
Derivation from offsetting item based on the above mentioned rule
Periodic processing:Monthly period closing program to be executed
Distribution / Assessment NOT possible
Report showing individual and all PCA totals to match Company Code Values GL Account wise available
Others:Consolidation at BA level
Multiple Valuation not possible at BA level
Material ledger concept NOT extended to Business Area
Further development for Business Area discontinued [Note 321190]
thanks
Srilaskhmi

Document splitting with two characteristics Business area & Profit Center

Dear Experts,
is it possible to split the document with two characteristics .
Business area
Profit center
Can anyone suggest!!
Regards,
Naru

Hi,
Thanks for you immediate response...
i tried with this it is splitting only profit center and not splitting for business area, Please correct if i am wrong.
Amount
Business area
Profit center
Vendor A
4000
Expense
2000
A
A
Expense
2000
B
B
Should split like below
Vendor A
2000
A
A
Expense
2000
A
A
Vendor A
2000
B
B
Expense
2000
B
B

Business area & profit center

hi sap gurus,
When it is useful to activate new Profitcenter & when it is useful to activate Business Area.
Can any body narrate difference and benefts of each
Thanks & Regards
krishna.

Hi,
Profit center and business are org units and both are used for similar purposes.
Business area is gared on external accounting where as profit centers are used for internal accounting purposes
Business Area
Based on the above we can prepare Balance sheet and profit
centre for separate product segment, geographical segment
etc. In India for certain companies it is the external
reporting.
Profit Centre
Based on the above responsble profit centre derive the
profit (only profit) (revenue minus expenses). Internal
reporting
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Ram

Business Area & Profit Center : Reports Issue

Hi Experts,
We are maintaining Business Area and Profit Centers. we have also activated document splitting. We posting transactions, which has CO Account Assignment Objects or Profit Centers or Business Area.
We need to view Financial Statements (F.01) Business Area wise and Profit Center Financial Statements (S_PL0_86000028), I m not able to see any figures or amounts respective to that Business Area wise or Profit Center.
Please help me in understanding, what config part is missing or is there any prgram to be executed to activate this ?
Edited by: Hussein Merchant on Jul 7, 2010 11:38 AM

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Impact Analysis: Business Area, Profit Center changed for Sales Order type

Hi All,
Can you please let me know the impact of changing the Business Area and Profit Center for Sales Order Document types.
Scenario:
Let's say that sales document type ZOR has been used for sometime. On this document x number of sales orders have been raised, delivered and invoiced over the years.
Now, if you change the Business Area and Profit Center what would be the business impact.
thanks,

Hi,
First of all itu2019s not a good business practice to change the Business area and Profit Centre.
However if at all l you change the Business area and Profit centre the following is the impact::
Business Area: effects the sales order in accounts assignment at Header level.
Profit centre: effects the accounting part at Item level
Overall in MIS reporting w.r.t Profit and Business Analysis in Finance will be affected.
Thanks and regards
DSR

Business area & profit center adjustments

Hi viewers,
How to do the business area adjustments to generate Business area wise balance sheet .... pls let me guide and also profit center wise adjustments to generate balance sheets.
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swathi

Hi
Maintain the settings in OBXM and execute the following transactions F.5D, F.5E and F.5F
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Difference between Business area and profit center accounting

Hi Frnds,
Can any body explain about difference between business area and profit center accounting .

Hi
Business area will have many profit centers. For example Vehicle is a business area in a company. Vehicle can be cars and Bikes etc. Here Vehicle is business area and Cars and Bike are profit centers. In broad Vehicle is a profit center. But as it has sub areas those are profit centers. So profit centers cannot be replaced with business area and vice versa. We can replace business area by Profit centre, only condition is that it should be in same controlling area. The business area is more like a business unit of a company. You can have multiple profit centers within a business area.
Main distinguish factor is that distribution and assessment in possible in profit center but not in business area.
One more distinction is that Business area need not be attached to any organisation structure. But profit centres can be created only under the controlling area. Business area can be across controlling area.
Business area concept is used for making stragic decisions by the management whereas the primary purpose of profit centre accounting is responsibility accounting.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/ff/277203deea11d3b5b4006094b9b0a5/frameset.htm

Business Area vs. Profit Center Accounting

Hi all,
I have a doubt regarding this issue.
Our customer is a holding composed by 3 legal entities, each one with its own Balance Sheet. The company produces in such a way that they need to plan production and purchases globally (for the 3 legal entities).
I searched how to deal with this, and if a create 3 different company codes it is really difficult to plan production and purchases for the 3 company codes globally. The most suitable solution would be to use STO process (stock transfer orders), but the purchases would be done by only one company code and this is not what the customer wants because only this company code would have tax credits.
I am now thinking about having one company code divided into 3 different business areas or profit centers, but I am not sure which solution will be better, taking into account that each legal entity must submit a separate Balance Sheet. In Sap Help, I found that it is better to have different business areas if each organizational unit must submit external presentatios. But I was told that Profit Center Accounting came to replace Business Area. Is that right? May I use Business Area to do so or Profit Centers ? Which one is the most reccomendable?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Florencia.

hi,
if u r setting as a business area,still u need to follow the reporting procedures to the local authorities, such as banks,tax,etc. but,if u do it as a profit center,it will come under ur internal entity (controlling), and for the local authorities,ur holding entity will take care of reporting,etc.
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Using Business Area and Profit Center Accounting with New GL functionality

Hello,
We are Public Sector and using ECC 6.0, we have been using Business Area with Fund Management. We also use Special Purpose Ledger with Document splitting. Before migrating to New GL functionality, we want to understand
-     The possibility of using both Business Area and Profit Center Accounting, and the impact on the system
-     If we activate Profit Center Accounting before migration, how will it work with the splitting process?
-     If we migrate without Profit Center Accounting, will this cause the activation of Profit center accounting later to be more complicated, even if we migrate again?
Thanking you

Hi Sachin,
Thank you for the reply, we want to know that
-     The possibility of using both Business Area and Profit Center Accounting, and the impact on the system
If we decide using Profit Center Accounting with Business Area with New GL functionality how we should do it
-     should we activate classical Profit Center Accounting before migrating to New GL functionality, if we do this how will it work with the splitting process?
-     If we migrate to New GL functionality without Profit Center Accounting, will this cause the activation of Profit center accounting later to be more complicated, even if we migrate again?
Thanking you
Tipu Khan

Change Business Area to Profit Center Accounting

Hi Gurus,
Here we want to elminate business area and migrate to profit center accounting, could anybody highlight what are the important steps for the changes.
Thanks in advance.
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Difference between Buness area vs Profit center accounting

Hi
What is the difference between the business area and profit center
1. Insted of Business area why can we use profit center accounting ?
2. diffenrence between the assessment cycle and Distribution ?
Thanks

Both are used for internal treporting purpose.
but profit center have some advantages over business areas.
advs;
. Profit Centers will be used instead of Business Areas to generate Profit & Loss statements and Balance Sheets for each location. Profit Centers has the following advantages over Business Areas;
.           It is very flexible in nature and can be created / activated any time as it is Master Data.
.           Profit Centers does not need adjustments/activities in the month-end due to Document Splitting functionality.
.           Profit Center has its own Ledger/ SAP Tables in the background
.           It can be grouped at higher level and one group can have any number of Profit Centers in it
.           Assessment and Distribution of Costs between Profit Centers can be done.
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No documents of Profit-Center Accounting are generated for prof/ctr valuat

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We have activated multiple valuation: Legal, Group, Profit Center.
We have activated Profit Center Accounting too.
Now we have performed sale of material from one Company code to another.
And there are no documents of Profit Center Accounting. Plus in Profit Center valuation there are no sums on revenue account.
All sums are posted to account defined for internal material movements in transfer price's customizing.
What customizing is missing?
Best regards,
Kamila.

Hi Manoj,
As you know that transferring balances from one PC to another completely with in controlling part. Until unless you post any document from FI or MM side system will not generate any Accounting doc for any transactions. And we do not have any direct postings in controlling. Thank you,
Regards,
Inthiyaz

Functional Areas (FA) in Profit Center Accounting (PCA)

Dear all,
We use Functional Areas (FA) to separate fixed costs in Profit Center Accounting (PCA). Originally, in FI, fixed costs are posted with Cost Center which is linked to FA. Now we find out that some cost centers missed their link to FA and hence not all fixed costs transferred to FA in PCA. We fixed the missed links, but the main question now is, how can we transfer information about FA for already existing documents? Is there any way to update profit center documents and totals? Or erase and transfer them once again?
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Please see the following SAP note. I corrected my ledger with help of Following Note
1- 106180 (Correcting functional areas in the PCA Ledger)
2-677630 (Correcting functional areas in FI documents)
3- 115840 (Correcting functional areas in special purpose ledgers)
4- 87064 (Reconciliation Ledger: Cost-of-Sales Accounting Problems)

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