Business area & profit center

hi sap gurus,
When it is useful to activate new Profitcenter & when it is useful to activate Business Area.
Can any body narrate difference and benefts of each
Thanks & Regards
krishna.

Hi,
Profit center and business are org units and both are used for similar purposes.
Business area is gared on external accounting where as profit centers are used for internal accounting purposes
Business Area
Based on the above we can prepare Balance sheet and profit
centre for separate product segment, geographical segment
etc. In India for certain companies it is the external
reporting.
Profit Centre
Based on the above responsble profit centre derive the
profit (only profit) (revenue minus expenses). Internal
reporting
Thanks
Ram

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Derivation by referred cost object
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I need your sugesstion
we neet to create the Financial statement at plant level.
for that Business are is ok or Profit center Accounting.?
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Report showing individual and all PCA totals to match Company Code Values GL Account wise can be created
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First of all itu2019s not a good business practice to change the Business area and Profit Centre.
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Business Area & Profit Centre

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Hi,
What is the difference between Business Area & Profit Centre.
how alternative profit centre is from business are.
any documentation available.
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Business area:An organizational unit in external accounting, which corresponds to a separate operational or responsibility area in the organization, and value flows recorded in Financial Accounting can be assigned to it.
The business area should be treated as a separate economic unit, for which you can create an internal balance sheet and a profit and loss statement. The business area is, however, only an internal organizational unit and does not have any external impact.
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We are using ECC 6. In our business scenario profit centre is there. Under Document splitting there is a Business Area and Profit centre in config area.. Should we mention Segment field under document splitting. If we mention segment under Document Splittng inspite of Business Area, what are the problems may arrises ? Or if we mention all 3 (Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment field) in document splitting what may effect in other areas.
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I have encountered a problem with business area wise document splitting. I have selected business area wise document splitting after posting values in the cost centers. now I need to assign business area in the cost center master data. Because of the cost center is having values, it is not allowing me to assign business area in the master data. Now i want assign business area in the cost center master.
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Kindly go through the "ERROR" message and "IMPORTANT" point as mentioned below:This is happening while reversal of PGI in VL09.
IMPORTANT: Just to make you aware, the cost center in error (CONSDSPL) was nowhere assigned in FS00 or OKB9. Also to state that at the time of this error some different cost center was assigned in FS00 which was having business area SUGR. So PGIs are picking up two business areas i.e. 1.DSPL (from Plant-Division-BussA setting) & 2. SUGR (for P&L GL from FS00)
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ERROR -
> BAL1/CONSDSPL CTR belong to business area DSPL not SUGR
Message no. KI188
Diagnosis
Account assignment object BAL1/CONSDSPL, type CTR is assigned to business area DSPL. You made an explicit assignment to business area SUGR.
System Response
The posting row may contain only one business area.
Procedure
Perform one of the following actions.
Make an explicit assignment to business area DSPL. To do so you must set the "Business area" field as entry-ready in Customizing.
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PLEASE GUIDE. NEEDED ANSWER BADLY.

Business area filed in cost center CONSDSPL is DSPL (what it should be). In this scenario, they have assigned SGPRODCTN cost center in GL master wherein business area is SUGR.
That means, when accounting entry is getting generated, it will show two business areas. One will be fetched from "Plant-Division-BussA" setting (SPRO) & the other from GL. Also to make you aware that here the business area should be DSPL, but since they assigned wrong cost center in GL master, the entries are going to SUGR as well.
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