Business Groups and Legal Entities

Hello All,
Can any one please explain abt Business groups,legal entities,organizations (flow) with an example. While quering the apps tables i see column called org_id.
But when queried genal ledger tables there is no such org_id ? why?
Kind Regards,
Kumar

Hi
Org Structure that u can see like this
Business Group--> Set of Books-->Legar Entity--> OU--> Inv Org
BG: It segregates Human Resource data such as employee
SOB: It is financial entity which define a chart of account, Fuctional Currency and Accounting Calendar (it means it dealt wiht 3 C's-Currency/Calandar/Chart of a/c)
LE: Each OU must point to a legal entity that has its own set of set ups data and transaction table, each OU has its own Payables,Receivable, Cash management, OM and Purchansing. And it dealt with Local Tax authorities.
OU: Each Inv org must point to OU. and Inv org has its own bill of materials,WIP and MRP.
Inv Org: Where you have manufacturing plants and labs to which it assigned.
2. Basically org_id define the OU, whereas organization_id is used for Inventory org.
Organization_id store in table hr_organization units and orgid is stored in table a
x_y_all (eg. ap_invoices_all)
Here note "_all " every table whose name ends with all stores date that is segregated by OU (orgid)
for eg. ap_invoices is basically the veiw of ap_invoices_all where dat is segregated by org_id. for this we gendrally use an API to fetch data in ap_invoices.
Hope this little clear to you now.
Thanks
Raj
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