Business Process Question

Hi,
This scenario is when secretaries leave the company, is it possible for some one else to copy the SC's create by the ex-secretary ?
Thanks
Edited by: Rahul Azi on Feb 25, 2008 10:33 PM

Yes, completion criteria can be set for any BPF step (and not sub-step).
The criteria must then tie in with the work status (unlocked / submitted / approved / etc) that you've set up for an application. In order to complete the BPF step, the user must first change the work status to the level you indicate in the BPF.
BPF Admin console -> Define steps and sub-steps -> after you create a step, then modify it. One of the properties is completion criteria.

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