Camera set to sRGB, Opens as Adobe RGB

I have a Canon 5D, color space set to sRGB. When opening RAW file in Camera Raw 5.0, it opens as Adobe RGB. How can I fix this?
Thanks!

> Wouldn't that be true only if you were targeting a smaller space, like sRGB?
Factual clipping, i.e. pixel saturation on the raw level has nothing to do with the intention regarding the processing of the raw image. If pixel saturation is reached, then the raw pixel value is invalid.
The issue is, how one can achieve an in-camera conversion, which resembles the closest the raw data, in order to be able to tell how the actual exposure was. There are several steps, which can not be neutralized for the in-camera conversion, one of them being the color space conversion. Furthermore, the spectral characteristics of the color filters play a huge role in this question, so my suggestion is camera model related.
For example re the Nikon D300 I suggest using Adobe RGB in-camera. This is, because Nikon changed the color filters for the D300 sensors from the previous models very much. They are almost always changed from one model to another, but this change was extraordinarily big: the transmissity of the red range is much larger in all three filters than with other sensors. This has lead lots of photographers believe that the "red channel overexposes" (which occurs very seldom, practically nie before green saturation). Thus my (unproven!) suggestion is, that the in-camera histogram and clipping indication of the D300 gets closer to reflecting the raw data with Adobe RGB than with sRGB.

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This is set in ACR workflow options (the blue link below the main image window).
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In this episode of the Adobe Creative Suite Podcast Terry White shows the advantages of setting Photoshop to open your JPGs in Camera RAW by Default.
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Thanks Terry! I’ve been using this for a few years and settled on the somewhat more flexible approach… As you mentioned, Bridge offers an explicit command to open a JPEG or TIFF in Camera Raw, which I do, but then with a press of Shift I can open that JPEG as a smart object and revisit CR controls for further adjustment at any time later in the process.

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I am using PS cs6 and lightroom and I am having a hard time know what color space to choose. The lab that I am using told me that their color space is sRGB. Do I need to have both PS and Lightroom set at sRGB or should I have PS set at adobe RGB and just set my export from lightroom as sRGB?

Please post in the Photoshop forum.
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I would appreciate any help I can get with this one:
Which color space should I use in my D300 (sRGB or Adobe RGB) if I'm using Aperture and why? I'm referring to shooting RAW. Or does color space only matter if I shoot JPEGs? Does it depend on output?
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This is likely a basic question for all the pros out there, but here it is:
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He recommends changing the default setting to Adobe RGB (1998), saying "This is probably the most popular RGB setting for photographers because it reproduces such a wide gamut of colors and it's ideal if your photos will wind up in print."
Then comes the instruction book for the Canon 5D Mark II, which recommends sRGB because Adobe RGB "is mainly used for commercial printing and other industrial uses. This setting is not recommended if you do not know about image processing, Adobe RGB, and Design rule for Camera File System 2.0 (Exif 2.21). The image will look very subdued in the sRGB personal computer environment and with printers not compatible with Design rule for Camera File System 2.0. Post-processing of the image with software will therefore be required."
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T. Schmidt,
The videos in question are titled
The Art of Fine PrintingFrom Camera To Print, so they are
very much about and for photography. They are of little interest to someone not primarily involved with photography.
My take on color management books is very subjective and definitely photography-oriented, of course.
Real World Color Management by Fraser et al. remains the basic color management book. I also very much like Andrew Rodney's
Color Management for Photographers.
I am not in the Margulis camp, even though I did read the
Canyon Conundrum and
Professional Adobe Photoshop, which I still have, without having profited much from the latter and not at all from the former. I don't care much for Scott Kelby either. (I prefer to avoid L*a*b and CMYK altogether.)
> the best up to date book about Color Management in general or for print,
I am not quite sure what to make of that phrasing.
or" for print? As far as I'm concerned, color management is the art of maintaining color accuracy and consistency
from capture to print.
>97% of the time I get an untagged image it's sRGB
Quite a few untagged image files floating around turn out to be in Color Match RGB or Monitor RGB, so I can't assume sRGB. What I can tell you is that I encounter fewer and fewer untagged files myself, as my known stance on beating morons who give me untagged files with a baseball bat seems automatically to shield me from said morons for the most part.

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Hi,
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Have you try to use the Image -> Convert Color Profile -> Convert To sRGB Profile
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Or compare the two profiles in ColorSync Utility (in the Utilities-folder).
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Gary

Gary Anthes wrote:
I shoot as jpeg/Adobe RGB. The "properties" I'm seeing comes from file/open then right click on thumbnail from within the PS Elements editor.
Gary
Then, you are seing the properties shown by Windows itself.
If you are looking from the editor : file/file info, advanced tab. Then click on 'Adobe photoshop properties... you'll see the real color space.
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Hello,
As I am struggling with choosing the 'right' color profile for my photo's (either sRGB or Adobe RGB) I was wondering what your opinion of this subject is. I have searched the internet for the information about this subject, but the forums/answers/information couldn't give me enough satisfaction.
For editing photo's I am using Adobe Photoshop, for my library I use iPhoto. Some photo's are uploaded to sites as www.facebook.com. Sometimes I order a photo book via iPhoto.
Because there are pros and cons for both sRGB and Adobe RGB I am not sure which profile I have to choose. I would like to choose one format, since this will standardize my library.
Looking forward to your opinion.
Best Regards,
Jelle

Larry & Terence,
Did you do any on-screen testing or proofing? All modern browsers support ICC profiles and should show improvement with Adobe RGB in certain color ranges (NOT just Facebook).
Apple products aren't "designed" for sRGB. sRGB is a standard developed by Hewlett Packard and Microsoft (and I think we all can agree those aren't Apples best friends). sRGB is the default for most Cameras and SmartPhones, that doesn't mean it's the best.
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Article "Can the entire sRGB color gamut be displayed on today's LCD monitors?"
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SRGB vs Adobe RGB

What the heck is the difference between sRGB vs Adobe RGB?
Do I have to reset this in my camera too?
I have a Canon 5D Mark 11
Thanks, Penni

The »s« in srgb supposedly stands for »standard« (though »small« or »s..t« have also been mentioned) and this color-space is so small as to be representable without clipping on most monitors, so it’s recommended to be used for internet-work.
AdobeRGB on the other hand is much larger and intended for professional image-editing.
If You wonder what small and large mean in this context just create an rgb-document with a Spectrum-gradient and assign (not convert) different profiles to it and see how the appearance of pixels of any given rgb-value change.
Or compare the two profiles in ColorSync Utility (in the Utilities-folder).
Of course working in the larger space can cause problems when an image has to be output in a smaller space (as many/most offset printing spaces are), but soft-proofing can help recognize them in time.
Anyway reading up on color management should do You no harm.
It would seem advisable to shoot RAW-images if Your camera offers that option.

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