Can i roll forward cold backup taken using os command

i have cold backup of db which is in archivelog mode ( backup taken using os level cp command )
and arch logs from after backup was taken.
can i restore db and rollforward using the archive logs?

Hi mseberg,
In the first article you point to ( http://www.reachdba.com/showthread.php?532-Oracle-Database-Manual-Backup-and-Recovery]), the author wrote this:
a) when Online redo logs backup is there.,
and after that, he wrote this:
b) when Online redo logs backup is not there.So, I don't understand what is written in that article: it seems to me that it's often mentioned that there should be no redo log backup.
Please, could you clarify about this idea of redo log backup in the first article you pointed to ?

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