Can i use the retention policy without using the Flash Recovery area?

Yes ,lets see here
RMAN>list backup summary
C:\>dir *.bus
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
File Not Found
C:\>dir *.arc
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
File Not Found
RMAN> crosscheck backup
2> ;
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> list backup summary
2> ;
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7>   allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
8>   release channel ch1;
9>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
10>   allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
11>   release channel ch2;
12>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
13> }
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=24 recid=79 stamp=652108461
input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:05
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
allocated channel: ch1
channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch1
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
Deleted 3 objects
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch2
channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch2
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
no obsolete backups found
RMAN>
C:\>dir *.bus
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
               1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>dir *.arc
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
               1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>
RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7> }
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC
RMAN>Note: i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.
Yours comments are wellcome.
http://oraware.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-i-use-retention-policy-without.htmlKhurram

Hmmm, I can't see where the confusion originates. The table near the bottom of www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html has one row labelled "For backup using Time Machine" and another row labelled "For AirPort Disk with a USB hard drive".
The requirement for backup via Time Machine is OS 10.5.1 or better. Time Machine is not supported in pre-Leopard (OS 10.5) nor in Windows.
The requirement for using Time Capsule as a remote disk is identified as "Mac with Mac OS X v10.4.8 or later" or "PC with Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista; Bonjour for Windows (included on Time Capsule CD)".
Doesn't that pretty much spell out that Time Capsule works as a network drive without the need for Time Machine?
Also Joe (the OP) never indicated any desire to use it with Windows so I'm not sure why all the discussion about Windows compatibility. ??
Also the quote posted by Henry seems pretty clear:
"Time Capsule with Time Machine in Leopard is the ideal backup solution. But that doesn’t mean Tiger, Windows XP, and Windows Vista users can’t enjoy the benefits of Time Capsule, too. Because it mounts as a wireless hard drive, Tiger and Windows users simply access Time Capsule directly from the wireless network for exchanging and storing files quickly and easily."

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