Can't reinstall Tiger 10.4.6

I previously upgraded from the original Panther 10.3 on my Power PC G4 with the Black retail upgrade disk with the large silver X (v10.4.6) that I purchased from Apple and everything was fine for 2 years. This month I installed a new internal ADA 320 Gb drive (properly using the correct jumper in the back) and installed Tiger on this drive using the install disk. Now I reformated the original drive (60Gb Mac OS EXtended) and can't for the life of me get the Install disk to reinstall Tiger on the reformated drive. It gets half way thru and freezes. The same thing occurs on my 500 GB external LaCie Drive (Firewire). I have tried to install using cutom and just the basic essentials to no avail. I would like to be able to have an alternate drive to start up from but so far have been frustrated. I even reinstalled the original Panther on these drives (performed easily and no problem) so that the Tiger Install disk can do an archieve and install but alas to no avail. Anybody have any suggestions as to what's wrong with my Tiger Install Disk.

It sounds to me like it could be the disc, or it could be the optical drive. You have to reduce the equation to one unknown by using a different drive or different disc to see which one (if either) it is.
Another way to get the OS onto that drive is to do a complete bootable backup clone. Of course this won't be as clean an OS as a fresh installation but will work until you have the issue sorted out.
Cloning And Backup Tools
A bootable clone is an exact copy of your drive which is capable of booting your computer. Making a copy of your computer which is capable of actually starting the computer requires special copying procedures. Some people just back up data files but if you have problems you have to reinstall all your operating system and all your applications. With a bootable clone you just start up from the backup drive and clone back everything.
To copy files from one hard drive to another hard drive you can use:
[CarbonCopy Cloner|http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html] (donationware)
[SuperDuper|http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html] (shareware)
[IBackup|http://www.grapefruit.ch/iBackup/index.html] (free)
The Restore function of Disk Utility included in OS X. [Kappy's directions|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8799711#8799711]
[Tri-Backup (commercial)|http://www.tri-edre.com/english/tribackup.html] (payware)
[Silverkeeper|http://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper> (free) - version 2 has some issues (references: [1|http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/backup/index.html#d12jan2009],
[2|http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/backup/index.html#d13jan2009]) and it is recommended Tiger users stick with 1.1.4.
[Kappy's Backup Software Recommendations|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9065665#906 5665]
[Overview of Mac OS X Backup Programs|http://8help.osu.edu/1247.html]

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Though this may sound amateurish, I have everything backed up to a series of DVD-RWs using Retrospect 6.1 . My family has never used the computer so much or stored so much on it that we have ever needed to backup to an external hard drive, though that would have been more prudent.
As for the main system, other than the model listing below, it's set up like this:
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Can't reinstall Tiger on Mac Pro

We have a Mac Pro 1,1 with OS 10.4.11 on it. It is heavily corrupted and we want to wipe it and reload the OS. I tried 10.5 disks, but they cannot be used on this machine, so I tried the Tiger disks, but they said the same thing. I noticed that they are not the OEM disks, but a "Family Pack". I also noticed that I cannot boot to them. I hold the option or the C key and it boots to the HD. I tried startup disk, but the Tiger disk is not visible. I hesitate to wipe the drive (using the 10.5 utility) and then find I cannot load any OS on this machine. Any advice?

ghstd, welcome to Apple Discussions.
The MacPro has an Intel processor. It uses a special version of Tiger that is on the installers that came with the Mac. Do you have the installer? The family pack Tiger installer is for a PowerPC processor Mac.
Leopard can be used on your Mac, but you need to use a retail installer & not a gray installer from another model Mac.
Two things you might try.
Boot in Safe Mode? See
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107392
Takes a while to run, but it can correct some problems.
You may have some directory corruption. DiskWarrior can fix that. DiskWarrior by Alsoft
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 Cheers, Tom

Trying again: If the installation fails can i reinstall TIger on my Dual P

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Yes, but it would be much simpler if you cloned your existing system. Then, if the install fails, you don't have to start all over.
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keep in mid that archive and install downgrade suggested above doesn't give you the option to preserve users settings. this means that you'll have to go through account setup again. You old home directory should be buried somewhere in the previous system folder (see this [link|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107297]).

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Help!!! I Reinstalled Tiger But I Can't Access My Files

I reinstalled Tiger OSX 10.3 on my PowerBook G4 circa 2004. Now I have all sorts of unexplained problems.
I can't open Safari or iTunes or Dictionary. When I try to open them, from the restored Desktop, nothing happens.
I downloaded Tiger 10.4.11 and when I click on it, it attempts to open it but it can't. I click on the icon, it moves a tiny bit and nothing happens.
Can anyone tell me what happened to my old files? When I rebooted and reinstalled from the original PowerBook G4 software install CD, I requested that my old files be archived. I can't find any of them except the Word files.
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Hi John!
Did you create a back-up prior to the installation?
Exactly which model PowerBook G4 is it?
What is the Processor speed?
What size is the Hard Drive, and how much free space is available?
How much RAM is installed, and is it original or added?
What type of internal Optical Drive is installed?
Which version of OS, was pre-installed when maufactured?
Which version were you using before this reinstall?
"I reinstalled Tiger OSX 10.3..."
What type of disc did you use?
Was it the original install/restore that was shipped with the PowerBook, the Panther Install CDs, or a Tiger Install DVD?
"When I rebooted and reinstalled from the original PowerBook G4 software install CD,"
Was this done after the above described reinstallation?
ali b

Why can't I reinstall Tiger 10.4 please?

On startup the system time and date had reset to 1976. I was unable to get into the system preferences to reset these and decided to reinstall OSX 10.4 from the original disk. I selected Archive and Reinstall (having restarted from the system disk), but it gets to the bit where it verifies the destination volume and says it can't install. (I tried this 3 times and got the same message).
I then managed to reinstall OSX 10.3.2, but when I try to install OSX 10.4 over that, it just comes up with the same 'can't install' message when it tries to verify the distination disk.
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Also, when I eventually get Tiger reinstalled, where can I get system updates for Tiger 10.4 in English on disk as I don't have broadband where I live in Spain and downloading is out of the question because of the file sizes?
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Hi Andalucia,
first of all: WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSIONS!
Ooops, that's a bad one! Usually Disk Utility cannot repair this error. You will have to use a third party utility such as Disk Warrior or Tech Tool Pro to repair this.
For further information and instructions read these articles:
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Handling "overlapped extent allocation" errors reported by Disk Utility or fsck
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Can not update tiger and safari does not start

Hi everybody,
I have actually two but probably interrelated problems: First, safari does not start and second, I can not update tiger.
It all started a few days ago on my MacBook (Intel). Somehow, Safari produced an error (I only guess that it was Safari because I was downloading a movie clip) and Tiger was frozen. After rebooting, the whole system had problems (e.g., Safari and Skype were not starting). I tried to reinstall and archive mac os x but with no success. The problems were growing actually even worse (e.g., slow) and at some point in time, Tiger was not even starting. Thus, I did a full new installation of 10.4.8 (delete and install). Afterwards, it worked first but after the automatic software update, the system told me that their was an input/output error (???) during the 10.4.10 update. Afterwards, the whole system had again problems (slow and problems with even booting)!! Thus, the software update made it even worse. So, I did again a full installation (delete and install).
I have to update my 10.4.8 system, because I also have iLife08 that needs at least 10.4.9. However, I don't know what to do to avoid again these update problems??
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Crobus, welcome, since you are starting from scratch with each re-install why not try Kappy's Extended Hard Drive Preparation.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5203987&#5203987
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Reinstalling Tiger: Software Update Missing Many Updates

I've seen a few similar topics on this issue, but only in so far as Software Update missing an update here or an update there. I am currently reinstalling Tiger on a Power Macintosh G3 B&W that has been heavily upgraded. The system specs are as follows..
1GHz PowerLogix G3 (using MAChSpeed to enable full processor speed since the included CPU Director software won't work in 10.4.11)
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128MB Radeon 9200 Graphics card connected to an LG 1952 display and set to 1440x900 / millions of colors
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10.4.11 Combo update (I installed this one separately before any other updates)
Java 1.3.1 and 1.4.2 Release 2
iTunes Phone Driver 1.0
Migration and DVD/CD Sharing Update
Quicktime 7.6.4
Security Update 2009-005 (PPC)
J2SE 5.0 Release 4
Java for Mac OS X 10.4, release 5
[ditto], release 6
[ditto], release 7
[ditto], release 8
[ditto], release 9
Unless Security Update 2009-005 is meant to be a combined security update (doubtful), there are obviously several security updates that are missing. Also, I'm surprised that Software Update saw and installed Quicktime 7.6.4 but didn't see or install the latest PPC versions of iTunes or Safari. Safari 4.0.3 as I understand requires Security Update 2009-002, so naturally it would not see or install Safari without that update being installed first. While I don't necessarily mind installing updates manually (downloading them individually off Apple's support site and then installing by hand), I really prefer using Software Update to better automate the process. Up until now I have never had any problems with Software Update, but this problem is certainly aggravating. My primary concern is that I have no idea what updates are necessary and what updates are not necessary to ensure proper and relatively secure operation of my system, and I have no way of knowing whether or not Software Update will see any future updates (provided that Apple continues to support Tiger for a little while longer). If Software Update is missing crucial updates out of the gate, how can I be sure that it will see any further crucial updates that may hopefully be released?
I know that's part question / part rant, but I've been wracking my brain for the past few days over this one. Any information that could help solve this problem will definitely be appreciated, especially since my B&W is my preferred browsing machine.
Incidentally, my iBook, a Clamshell FW SE, is currently running the same setup that my B&W was previously running.. 10.4.11 with Quicktime 7.6.4, iTunes 8.2.1, and Safari 4.0.3, so as far as I can tell, this shouldn't be hardware related (my iBook is far less powerful than my B&W currently is). Also, a cursory glance at the Installed Updates list on my iBook definitely shows that my Software Update on my B&W is missing many updates.

I reformatted the drive first and did a clean install. I'm currently in the process of downloading the standalone installers for Safari 4.0.3 and iTunes 8.2.1. It's looking like that's the solution at present, but I'm still curious as to why Software Update won't see any iTunes or Safari updates within the current system configuration's capabilities (speaking to both apps possibly being cumulative). I can't see Software Update simply not having those updates because there is newer version out, if indeed they are cumulative, since that would mean that anyone reinstalling or upgrading on an older machine would be forced to perform some of the updates manually where not too long ago they would have been able to simply use Software Update as a "one stop" solution.
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Can you install Tiger onto a drive with data?

Hello,
I would like to ask if you can install Tiger onto a hard drive that already has data files on it. I have a 250 GIG hard drive and it already has 10 GIGs of data on it. Can I install Tiger on this drive or might it corrupt my files?
Its a long story but here is a quick summary of why I am attempting to do this:
I have a 350 MHz Blue and white G3 (rev 1) with two hard drives: the original 12 GIG ATA drive and a 250 GIG SATA drive (internal) connected with a 1S2 Seritek SATA controller.
My 250 GIG drive has two partitions but only one is available to Tiger. You see, by accident I originally formatted my 250 GIG drive with an extremely small partion (32 Megs). I meant to type "30 GIGs" and by accident I typed "30 Megs". Oops That was supposed to be my OSX 10.4 volume. Its too late now - its too small. So I only have two choices for a place for TIger: my 12 GIG drive or the other partition of my 250 GIG drive. I am reluctant to choose my 12 GIG drive because it already has an older OS on it (OS 8.6).
I was concerned about installing TIger on the data partition of the 250 GIG drive because that is where all my valuable data files are - 10 Gigs of data. I don't want to risk scrambling this data in any way.
Is it safe to install Tiger onto this partition with my data files? Or is the possibility it might do something to my data.
Its only a temporary install so that I could burn my 10 GIGs of data files to DVD for backup and then I will start all over again and erase the entire hard drive and reinstall from scratch onto the 250 GIG drive once my data files are safely backed up. (I will not partition the 250 GIG drive i nthe final install - it will be one big partition.)
One other question:
When you format a disk in Tiger are there options to "low level format" or "zero all data" or will just a straight "erase" do the job sufficiently? I bought my 250 GIG Hitachi SATA drive new and so I am not sure if it worth the time to re-erase it with "zero all data" (if that is an option in the Tiger Disk Utility). What is the best formatting option to prepare this drive in the most beneficial for Tiger?
Thanks for any suggestions.

Thanks scb and Jeff,
Jeff, you have me thinking now. I think I will be safe and try another idea. I have a 4 GIG internal SCSI drive I could use to backup my data in 4 GIG sections at a time via my Adaptec 2430 SCSI card. I could then move this hard drive over to my other G3 onto its 40 GIG hard drive. This would be done three times to take off all my data and essentially provide a backup before I install Tiger. Good idea. You are right. It is better to play it safe.
By the way 8.6 can handle HFS+. And yes, I should eventually buy an external drive solution - probably an enclosure. I saw one called "coolmax" [1]. It could hold a SATA drive and it had USB, firewire and also an external SATA port.
And also Jef thanks for the info about formatting drives. I am glad to hear it is not important to zero all data if you don't have to. I am not concerned about havig anything to hide and so yes, I will just click "format" - that should be fine. Zero all data takes such a long time and I would rather avoid using it if I don't need this feature. Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for the new safer direction.
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Reinstalling Tiger

I want to reinstall Tiger but can't do it over Leopard so how can I go back to Tiger?

After you backup all your important files, startup from your Tiger install disk. If your iMac came with Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger), you'll have to use the disk that came with your computer. A retail copy of Tiger or a copy from another Model Mac will not work. Start to install Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) and on the "Select Destination" screen, choose your hard drive and click the "Options" button. Inside the options sheet, select "Erase and Install".
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I wanted to reinstall Tiger with X11, so I put in the disk and started the installation process. I went through the part where it asked if I wanted to save my home files and whatnot, and of course I said yes. However, a few seconds after the installation began, I wanted to cancel it. So I quit and tried to reboot to my regular Tiger on my Hard Drive. However, it didn't do this. Instead, I was taken to the installation setup again. At this point I figured the only way I could get back was to reinstall Tiger. However, it didn't give me the option of saving all my home files, so I selected the option that said "install tiger for the first time." When it was finished, my computer looked as though it had been wiped and I had lost everything. Fortunately, my applications were all still in the applications folder, and my old home folder was saved under a folder in my HD called Previous Systems.
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Well, all I can say is you sure went about things the hard way. X11 can be installed separately and doesn't require reinstalling OS X. Furthermore, you never, ever, abandon an installation that's under way. Bash is your shell because that's the default shell used by OS X. You would have changed your shell to tcsh.
As for your Home folder this article may help: How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install.

I can't reinstall Compressor!

Okay, I'm having the same problem as everyone else....can't find background process,etc.
So I deleted all that I was supposed to...I've got FCS1 w/ Compressor 2. I put the DVD studio disc in to reinstall Apple Qmaster and Compressor. When I get to the screen on which apps to install I can deselect DVD studio and I can toggle on Apple Q....but for some reason I can not select to install Compressor.
Compressor is grayed out and it won't let me check it! Is there something that I didn't delete that is causing this? I have had and used compressor for that past 2 years...now what? I recently installed Leopard...if I were to reinstall Tiger would that help or fix this problem? And would I just put the install discs for Tiger to get rid of Leopard?
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I would suggest downloading AppZapper for a clean uninstall. After that, you don't start with the DVD Studio Pro disc. Start with the Final Cut disc. That will give you the full menu of the things to install.
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