Can't suspend using hal as normal user

Hello,
I'm currently experiencing problems suspending using hal as a normal user.
I followed the normal instructions for hal and pm-utils, but when I try to use
dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal \
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer \
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement.Suspend int32:0
It gives me the following error:
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Rejected send message,
1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.9" (uid=1000 pid=2217
comm="dbus-send) interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement"
member="Suspend" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal"
(uid=0 pid=1576 comm="/usr/sbin/hald))
This same command does work when I am root, so I suspect it is a permission error but when I use
dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.GetProperty
string:'power_management.can_suspend'
It does return true
(NOTE: This check was taken from the ubuntu forum but since it returns true rather than an error or something I suspect it is correct)
I tried the user permissions version of the config and that works so I can suspend, but xfce 4 uses hal so I would like this to work anyway
Thanks in Advance

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Yes. Obviously during your scan of my message you missed "Yes I did have CS5 error 16 and yes adding the normal user to the two folders resolved it. Does not resolve CS6 error 16."
Yes it is a configuration error.
I've read both of of the feeds referred to (and several others) and they were not helpful to resolving the CS6 config error 16, though they did fix CS5 config error 16.
However, applying that logic to the whole, I have verified that it is definitely is fixable with changes to permissions. I can invoke the error condition and relieve it at will simply by adding my user (r/w) to the adobe folder in application support and cascading it down to the enclosed items. Clearly there is/are folder(s) beyond the already identified "Adobe PCD" and "Adobe Store" that need the r/w privileges for the particular user of the CS6 version of the software.
To restate: I've temporarily provided relief by adding my normal user account read and write to the whole of the adobe folder in /Library/application support and clicking "apply to enclosed items".
I would label this a permissions hack and feel that I have a security vulnerability now.
Knowing which folders exactly need that permission would be the ideal situation.
Please advise.

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