Car not recognizing ID3 tags

I just bought a shuffle to connect to my new car via USB port in the car. The shuffle is working fine, but some of the files are showing as empty and some are showing as an unrecognized ID3 tag, so they don't play. Out of about 100 songs on the shuffle, about 50 play. Does anyone know what version of ID3 tags I should be using? Some of the ones that work are version 2.2 and some are 2.3, so I can't figure out a pattern that would lead me to a logical solution. Anyone have any suggestions?

Leo: Yes, when I first imported my library, I found this case on several files.
In every instance, the ID3 tag itself was corrupted. What I later discovered was as follows:
-Corrupt ID3 tags are pretty commonplace
-Winamp is very lenient in its tag reading capabilities
-iTunes is not so lenient
There's a few ways to try to fix these files (since it is a problem with the file, technically).
-You can try to correct the tag using a good tagging program. I found Tag&Rename was capable of fixing most tags.
-You can erase the tag and retag the file entirely. TidyMP3 will remove the tag. Tag&Rename has nice Amazon.com lookup features for retagging whole albums at once (with art!).
But it is the tag at fault. Winamp is just incredibly forgiving, more so than any other program. And as such, it's not a good basis on which to judge the correctness of the file's tag.

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ITunes not recognizing ID3 tags

Hi, I installed iTunes last night on my PC and imported all my music into it. This seemed to work OK, but quite a few of the tracks are not showing the correct information in the list (e.g. just showing the track name, and not the artist, album etc).
I have checked and the ID3 tag info is present and correct on these MP3s - if I open it in Winamp and look at the file info I can see that the ID3v1 and ID3v2 information is all present and correct, but for some reason it is not being recognised by iTunes (on the Summary info screen for these files it says: "ID3 Tag: None").
Is there any way I can get iTunes to recognise these tracks? I don't want to have to do it manually as there are quite a few.
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance, Leo.

Leo: Yes, when I first imported my library, I found this case on several files.
In every instance, the ID3 tag itself was corrupted. What I later discovered was as follows:
-Corrupt ID3 tags are pretty commonplace
-Winamp is very lenient in its tag reading capabilities
-iTunes is not so lenient
There's a few ways to try to fix these files (since it is a problem with the file, technically).
-You can try to correct the tag using a good tagging program. I found Tag&Rename was capable of fixing most tags.
-You can erase the tag and retag the file entirely. TidyMP3 will remove the tag. Tag&Rename has nice Amazon.com lookup features for retagging whole albums at once (with art!).
But it is the tag at fault. Winamp is just incredibly forgiving, more so than any other program. And as such, it's not a good basis on which to judge the correctness of the file's tag.

Zen mx 16gb player not recognising id3 tags.

,zen mx 6gb player not recognising id3 tags.I recently bought a zen mx and so far can not get it to recognise over half of my mp3's id3 tags. All of the files are drm free. All of the unrecognised files will play but get stuck in the unknown artist unknown album catagory on the player. I have tried retagging the files in several diffrent tagging softwares and upgraded my player to the newest firmware and nothing seems to work. I had a creative vision m 30gb before I had this player and it never had this problem. I contacted customer support but they didnt seem to have any idea what an Id3 tag was and offered no relavent advice other then upgrade your firmware witch was upsetting to say the least. If anyone has any idea how to fix this that would be awesome. I feel like I just wasted almost 80 dollars.

0Re: zen mx 6gb player not recognising id3 tags. It's just aggravating because I used to talk the company up all the time. The older creative zen's where awesome. They played every file that I had with the exclusion of open source formats like ogg witch is understandable because I'm sure that there is not much demand for that.
I wouldn't be half as upset as I am if I felt like the support people where offering decent suggestions or even an explanation of what may be wrong. I mean are there certain id3 tags that are not recognised? At least try to explain why it may not work to me so that I can fix the problem without having to re-tag every cd that I have purchased since I was fourteen. I don't think I'm going to buy anything from them again until I see that the quality of there products is getting better. Maybe I should write a review on Amazon to warn people away, after all the majority of the music that its having problems with was downloaded from Amazon.com.
Btw if your haning the same problem as me kid3 is a program that will retag your files to this players satisfaction. Not that helps if you have a large volume of music but its at least something.

Can not edit id3 tags since upgrade to iTunes 8.1: permissions problem (?)

Hi all,
I am angry at myself for having upgraded to 8.1 before I knew that it's ok, and angry at Apple releasing this update with too many problems. Here is my list:
(1) I cannot change ID3 tags within iTunes for certain tracks. I usually click on one or several tracks, press Command+i for information, then change the desired tags (e.g. genre, album, etc.) and click ok. Only that iTunes won't let me write anything. I found that I have no longer write permission to exactly these tracks (my music is on an external LaCie Firewire800 HD). What I did so far:
- I tried to run "Repair permissions" on the internal HD.
- I clicked on the iTunes music folder on the external hard drive, opened the information window and changed under "Sharing & Permissions" the rights to read&write for my user account. I clicked on "Apply to enclosed items", which should set the permissions to all elements within the folder.
Any ideas? My system is freshly installed (~3weeks old), everything is updated.
(2) Probably related to (1): certain files and documents on my internal hard drive have wrong permissions. Firefox for example is locked as read only, and I cannot update it via the "Check for update" in the help menu. I know there is an update available, as I am using 3.0.6 and the newest is 3.0.8. Repair permissions did not help. See the screen shot for the grayed out "Check for updates" menu entry.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6567/picture2rxl.png
(3) In iTunes, I have a smart playlist in which all songs rated with four or more stars are gathered. I found songs in this list that I did not rate yet, and they all have odd "empty" stars in comparison to the songs I rated myself. What's up with that? See screenshot, some of the songs of the album "I love Jazz" have these odd stars:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8702/picture1zkg.png

That's exactly what I did, it took ~20sec to complete the "apply to enclosed items" command (there was heavy disk access), but it does not improve. The permissions stay the same for the files/folders in question. It's very odd, have a look at the screenshot:
Some folders have correct permissions, others (to which I have no access through iTunes) show "admin" twice as the only user who is allowed to write. Repair permission does not help. I have hundreds of files/folders where permissions are wrong, only since the upgrade recently.
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Message was edited by: JJulian (added screenshot)

ITunes not reading ID3 tags correctly

I have an album of mp3s, all correctly ID3 tagged (WinAMP and Windows Media Player read them fine), and when I try to add it into my iTunes library, it only add it as the filename. It does not read the artist, album, or track name from the tag.
It is strange that it is able to read some of the id3 tags but not all.
iTunes 6.0.4 Windows XP Pro

Something else on your system is probably changing the tag outside of itunes. For instance, WMP is set to get album info from the internet.
iTunes isn't constantly scanning your library for any little tag change (a good thing, otherwise it would use 100% CPU all the time). When you go to play it or get Info, it DOES read the tag info.
Then again, I might not understand your itunes preferences settings. I have mine set for itunes not to organize my files and not add them to the itunes library.

Itunes not reading id3 tags

For some reason, many of my songs that I imported using previous versions of itunes *specifically version 10.5* no longer are reading the ID3 tags correctly and now come up as unknown artists, unknown albums. Is there anyway to fix this without doing each song individually as they show up correctly in Windows Media Player. There were no issues on the original computer, however I transferred everything to my new computer and formatted the original one.

Leo: Yes, when I first imported my library, I found this case on several files.
In every instance, the ID3 tag itself was corrupted. What I later discovered was as follows:
-Corrupt ID3 tags are pretty commonplace
-Winamp is very lenient in its tag reading capabilities
-iTunes is not so lenient
There's a few ways to try to fix these files (since it is a problem with the file, technically).
-You can try to correct the tag using a good tagging program. I found Tag&Rename was capable of fixing most tags.
-You can erase the tag and retag the file entirely. TidyMP3 will remove the tag. Tag&Rename has nice Amazon.com lookup features for retagging whole albums at once (with art!).
But it is the tag at fault. Winamp is just incredibly forgiving, more so than any other program. And as such, it's not a good basis on which to judge the correctness of the file's tag.

Rhythmbox 0.13.1 not handling ID3 tags properly from mt-daapd server

I have an mt-daapd server (Firefly) serving a music library to various clients on my home network. My wife's Ubuntu desktop with Rhythmbox 0.13.1 reads the ID3 tags of files served with no problems (screenshot below):
My Roku SoundBridge device can also access the files and read the ID3 tags without issue, as can iTunes on a Windows XP machine.
However, since the the 2010-10-04 update of Rhythmbox on Arch x86_64, ID3 tags on files served by the mt-daapd server appear to be only partially readable (just the title and the genre), which results in all tracks being categorized as "Unknown" artist, album, etc. in Rhythmbox (screenshot below):
Until the Oct 4 update, things worked well. Any ideas as to what may have changed? It does NOT appear to be an ID3 support issue on the host computer running mt-daapd, as other client devices on my network can read the tags just fine, and things only went awry after the latest update.
Any help is much appreciated. Cheers.

Hmmm ... PKGBUILD listed the dependency as musicbrainz-2.1.5 without any editing needed:
pkgname=rhythmbox
pkgver=0.13.1
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="An iTunes-like music player/libary"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license=('GPL')
url="http://www.rhythmbox.org"
depends=('libgpod>=0.7.93' 'libsoup-gnome>=2.31.92' 'gnome-media>=2.31.6' 'totem-plparser>=2.31.92' 'musicbrainz>=2.1.5' 'libmtp>=1.0.2' 'libnotify>=0.4.5' 'lirc-util$ ...
I removed libmusicbrainz3 (and sound-juicer, as it depends on it) anyway. Then I rebuilt Rhythmbox with abs and reinstalled (largely because I hadn't done this sort of thing in a while), but no change.
Thanks in advance for any other suggestions.

Songs Won't Play, Album Art Not Modifiable, ID3 Tags, Need Help

I have a 32 GB iPod Touch, Windows Vista, the latest version of iTunes and Quicktime as well as the latest iPod software.
I noticed the other day that a bunch of my songs were missing album art. I have a library with almost 7,000 songs and I have album art for everything. I went to the songs to attempt to fix the album art and noticed that it said, Album Art Not Modifiable, in the Album Art preview screen. I thought that was weird and it wouldn't let me add new album art to these albums.
I also noticed that none of these songs would play. They wouldn't play on my iPod or on iTunes. You can click play and it looks like it's going to play, but the counter never leaves "0".
I thought something was wrong with my files and that I would have to re rip or download the songs. However, by chance I opened one of the songs in Window Media Player and it worked, so I knew the files were fine.
I did a search online and found several people with the same problem and a few things to try. But nothing worked until I stumbled upon a solution of setting the ID3 tags to version "None", then setting them to version 2.4. I tried it and it worked.
But now it keeps happening, I get a new group of albums every day that won't play.
Can anyone tell me what is causing this?
How do I prevent it?
Do I really need to take every song in my library and change the ID3 tags, that could take forever?
Could anyone please help and shed some light on this.
Thank You

Thanks for replying, Please read our Operating System details before taking a guess about what 'could' be the problem...
I think I figured it out anyway, Windows Media Player might be adding extra information that iTunes does not like, either Windows Media Player and/or iTunes 7.7.1 don't conform to ID3 v2.4 standards...
Please fix your software, Apple. I know how you love to be unique and mock PC users with your one-sided advertisements but at least conform to the ID3 standards.

Itunes does not read id3 tags and its a problem

Ok I have 60 gig of music and all of it is labeled correctly in id3 tags. But when i add them all to itunes some of the songs are blank with no information at all but if i go into "show in explorer" the information in the id3 tags instantly pops up. I'v searched google and found nothing so i hope someone can tell me a fix or another program to use that will organise my music like itunes does and also can put music on my ipod. So please help me with the problem.
Thanks

It doesn't work. I'v already tried that. I'v even tried converting the id3 tags and then removing them from the libray and adding them again. Still nothing. It might help if someone could tell me where itunes gets it information for its tags when you add music to its libray seeing as it doesn't use id3 tags for the information like any smart program does.

ITunes not recognizing duration tags & scrubbing

Hello,
I'm having two problems with my podcast on iTunes.
First off here is my podcast on iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nba-tonight-podcast/id377667114) and feed (http://feeds.feedburner.com/nbatonightpodcast).
1 - I can't seem to get iTunes to show the duration of each episode, despite the fact that the <duration> tags are in the XML file/feed.
2 - iTunes is not allowing any scrubbing of my podcast episodes when played in iTunes.
Any help on fixing these two problems would be greatly appreciated.
-Steve

When subscribing to your feed all the durations show, and you can move about within the episode.
However the Store does not show the Duration column, which it does with my podcast, and I can move about within the episode when playing in the Store page.
Your feed contains the 'itunes:duration' tag correctly. The only oddity I can see is that your 'enclosure' tags contain a 'fileSize' attribute giving the size in bytes: this should be 'length', not 'fileSize', and it's possible that iTunes cannot read the 'fileSize' attribute and since it doesn't know the length of the file cannot calculate how to move around in it. (When subscribing the file has been fully downloaded, which is a different matter).
Try replacing 'fileSize' with 'length' if you can, and see if it helps.

Itunes doesn`t read half of my id3 tags

Hi,
I am stuck with a problem with itunes.
In the music library, itunes only writes half of my tracks with the id3 tags. All of my songs are mp3s. Every single id3 tag of all my songs gets recognized in winamp, wmp, or in the windows file browser.
But Itunes doesn`t!!!! Even if I click on the songfile, and go on information, it shows my art cover, but not the id3 tag!!
About 6 months ago when I installed itunes, all my tracks did get recognized, but after (i guess) 2 months, half of my songs were unwritten.
I did several updates since then, but no changes.
Now with the new Version 7, I even deleted the database who stores all the information, created a new music library, still doesn`t recognize it.
Winamp - new library - recognizes every single id3 tag.
Any Ideas??
Would need to update my ipod, but i don`t want to plug it in now, as it probably would **** up my library on the ipod.
If someone wants I can send you a mp3 file, which doesn`t get recognized, I just can`t find anything.
Thanks
Mario

It could be that the tags are corrupt or do not strictly follow the ID3 standard.
You might try an ID3 tag editor and convert the tags to an newer ID3 version. Maybe that'll fix any tag problems.

ITunes Library and ID3 Tags cause confusion

Okay, so this is what happens. I play a song that has Garage as the genre, but right after I double click on it, the genre changes to Other, and the track name shortens. Now, this doesn't happen with every file, but it happens with enough files to get really annoying. And no matter how many times I change it, it will always revert when I play the song.
I have an idea of what's happening, but I don't know how to fix it. My hypothesis is that the data in the ID3 Tag and the iTunes library are different, and when I edit the song tags in iTunes, it is changing the library data, but not the ID3 tag on the song file. I would use an ID3 tag editor, but all of them I have seen do not give access to Grouping and some of the other fields. I also use Serato Scratch Live, which accesses my iTunes music, for DJing.
Is there anyway to tell iTunes that it needs to write tag data to the ID3 on the song? I have searched preferences, but there is nothing concerning this.

YES... this is seriously messed up. It was the same issue in 7.5 and is now obviously present in 7.6. I would guess that many people don't see it because they never do anything with their mp3s after they are in the library, or if they make tag changes they never have to reimport the files. Or they don't care.
I've spent a LOT of time over the past 6 months cleaning up tags, adding details, adding artwork and ripping CDs and now have about 500gigs of tunes in my library. The symptom is the same.. after I've changed or added tags they look fine. If I then bring them into itunes on another mac (this is a shared drive) the edited tags all disappear and revert to either what they were before my edits, or disappear completely. Interestingly (maybe a hint as to whats happening) if I embedded artwork in the file, IT stays, but other tags revert/disappear.
What is the deal here? I can't really see any pattern, some mp3s were downloaded, some were ripped by me, some are CBR others VBR. I have full read/write permissions. MOST of the time I can edit tags and it sticks. its about 10-15% of them that have problems. I've also tried changing the tag to NONE to remove it and then create a new one but that doesnt consistently fix things either. Its either a conflict between the iTunes database and the embedded tags as you suggest or perhaps a conflict between different ID3 versions.
I'd like to hear how other people have got around this... Looks like I've got about 15% of six months of on again off again work down the drain since the tags don't exist in the files (or they're corrupt now).

The Case of Missing ID3 Tags... and non-Apple devices, like the Sonos

Ever since the debut of iTunes 6, devices other than my Mac and my iPod have been unable to find the ID3 tags associated with .mp3 files. If I rip a CD in iTunes 6 or 7, artist/album/track data (and album artwork) display properly in iTunes and on my iPod; but when I update my Sonos music library, for example, all it is able to see is the file name. So, for example, if I rip Jimi Hendrix's "Are You Experienced," the track "Purple Haze" shows up in iTunes correctly associated with "Hendrix" and "...Experienced." On the Sonos system, however, all it sees is the track "Purple Haze.mp3." No artist. No album. Ditto for placing one of these .mp3 files on a non-Apple mp3 player: track name only shows up. Bizarrely, if I rip CDs on an older PPC G4 running iTunes 4.0, and then import those files into either iTunes 6 or 7, the ID3 tags remain married to the files. Anyone have a solution to this vexing problem?
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Core Duo iMac Mac OS X (10.4.8) 2 Gigs SDRAM

In the newer versions of itunes 6+7 (don't know about 5) iTunes by default will rename the file on the HD to match the info in the "Name" column of iTunes - this is true if you have the "Keep" option selected in iTunes prefs>Advanced>General.
With iTunes 4 this was not true. I would use one of Dougs scripts to rename all my files on the HD to be Artist-Song Name. You can still do this in iTunes 6+7 if you turn off the "Keep" option or you don't edit any info in the id3 tag once you have run the script.
I know nothing of the Sonos and other stuff - I can only think that is reading only the file sname and not the id3 tag info. If it doesn't have the capability of reading and displaying the id3 tag info then I think you are out of luck. iTunes is reading the id3 tag info.
MJ

Bug or Feature? iTunes doesn't write ID3 Tags when you recorded in VBR mode

When you record music from a CD with iTunes (6.0.4 and 6.0.5) using higher bit rates (High Quality) together with VBR, then the iTunes database initialy shows a correct entry. But if you check the created mp3-files with the Finder application you will see that there is no id3-tag in the file.
When you later move your iTunes music folder, iTunes asks you to modfify everything concerning the embedded infos (id3 tags). If you then say "yes" your database is gone.
I saw a couple of postings where users complain about that iTunes loses the id3 tag when they burn a CD. I think that there has never been a physical ID3-Tag although the iTunes database shows a correct entry.
Is some kind of a bug fix out there or should I use Musicmatch within Parallels Desktop for Mac in order to properly record in VBR mode?

Odysseas,
"But if you check the created mp3-files with the Finder application you will see that there is no id3-tag in the file."
You can't see ID3 tags in the Finder. The data is imbedded in the song file itself.
Regular, commercially produced CDs do not support ID3 tag information. When you insert a CD and it opens in iTunes, the application will go out on the internet and look up the track information in the Gracenote (CDDB) database.
Then, when you rip the CD to an MP3 or AAC etc. the track information is then incorporated into the encoded song file. Using VBR shouldn't prevent the ID3 tag information from being transfered.
However, if you then burn a music CD from that file, the ID3 tag information is lost.
Matt

My ID3 tags not being recognized by iTunes 10.2.2

Can't quite find my unique problem on this board so hopefully someone can help me.
I have imported a lot of MP3 files into iTunes, successfully, which have v2.4 ID3 tags on them. I screwed up the song titles on one (Grateful Dead) show, and all songs came in titled '04'...
I deleted the files in iTunes (and asked iTunes to remove the files as well), fixed up the ID3 tags in the originals, and reimported. But, titles are still '04'!?
Since my music library is on my Linux box and I am mounting and importing from there, I thought maybe something was getting cached so I copied the whole album directory over to my iMac, but still I get the same '04' title for every song.
I also changed the Album attribute in the ID3 tags, but that is still also coming out the old (wrong) way.
It is as if iTunes has some sort of 'fingerprint' of the songs and refuses to recognize the ID3 tags.
This is on OS X 10.6.7 on iTunes 10.2.2, so I'm up to date on all software. And, I've imported A TON of shows like this without issue, it otherwise works just fine.
Anyone ever see this weird problem before?

Sorry, should have been clearer.
The first time I applied the ID3 tags my script for parsing the artist, album and track names from the directory name hierarchy and filenames (e.g. ~/Music/<artist>/<album>/<track number>-<filename>), my script had a bug and all ID3 'title' values were set to the month number of the concert (04 = April).
So, the first time I imported into iTunes, all tracks were titled '04'. I deleted those in iTunes, fixed my script, but now despite apparently having correct ID3 tags, all songs continue to be named '04'. I also changed the album value to, changing from 'Hartford 04262010' to 'Hartford Apr 26, 2010', but again the original value appears to be "sticky", and despite the apparently revised ID3 tag, the album name also is the same as the first time I imported (i.e. Hartford 04262010).
Like I said, it appears that iTunes is somehow caching the original values and not recognizing the new / revised ID3 tags.

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