Changing printer profile in Colorsync

I'm trying to change my printer's color profile in Colorsync. I opened Colorsync and went to the devices menu. Dropping down to my printer, I selected it and the available profiles were displayed... But not the custom profile I made. *Mac Help* walked me through changing the profile: Click the drop menu to the right of the 'Current Profile' heading, select 'other', and navigate to your custom profile.
Great, so I did that. But my custom profile still didn't show up in the 'Usable Profiles' list. And the list still shows that I'm using 'Pro38 SWMP_LD', except now when I highlight it, the description in the right window shows that I made the change. 6 months from now I'm not going to remember that I changed the profile 'Pro38 SWMP_LD' to 'Hahnemuhle German Etching' and I'm going to have to go digging or post another question (where's my profile??) on this forum.
Is there a way to get my custom profile's name ('Hahnemuhle German Etching') to display with the rest of the profiles under my printer's 'Usable Profiles' list? FYI- I tried putting my custom profile in the same 'ICC Profiles' folder where the other usable profiles reside. It still didn't show up in the list.

Anyone???
If I need to clarify, let me know.

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