Characteristics of Item Cate. u2013 u201CLu201D(Sub-Contracting) (Q2-4)

Dear Sirs,
When I displayed the Characteristics of Item Cate. u2013 u201CLu201D (Sub-Contracting) through "IMG - MM - Purchasing - Define External Representation of Item Cate.", I found that a checkbox - "PO Item Linked" was checked in "Invoice Receipt", meaning that invoice must be processed for PO. If I create a "Return" or "Free Goods" item using this Item Cate., is the invoice also required to process ?
Tks,
KH Fong

Hi,
When you are doing subcontracting process you can not have "returns" indicator selecetd in PO with item category "L".
For free goods, invoice verification is not applicable.
Cheers,
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Dear Sirs,
Could you answer me any one of the above questions ?
Tks,
KH Fong
Edited by: khofong on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 PM
"Close the question at the moment".
Edited by: khofong on May 30, 2010 4:33 PM

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Client A is subcontractor for their customer B
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Q3. Is there any implication if I include them in the BOM and the cost roll will not include the cost of those 10 components.
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You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
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1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
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Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
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To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
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u2013 You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
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Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
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u2013 You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
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If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
Q1. How does B receive 10 components from A (T Code and movement type)
see above
Q2. How do we prevent valuation of these 10 components in my plant. (Because the same part numbers are used by me and valuated in my plant)
Use split valuation so for sub contracting compenent will be one valuation and other component is other value
Q3. Is there any implication if I include them in the BOM and the cost roll will not include the cost of those 10 components.
No, costing is depend how you do costing

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