CIN : Capital goods reversal

Hi
Can someone give the steps for capital goods reversal process in CIN, with the transaction codes.
Regards,
R.Srinivas

see first u have to do cancellation of ur G R N doc in MIGO after that go to J1IEX here select POST & give vendor excise no. then press enter --> now in front of u a screen appears in which all details are displayed , now click on SIMULATE button on top , a small box appears in cenvat reversal is written for part1 & part 2 click on continue & then click on POST CENVAT Button.then u can check in T CODE = FB03 Ucan see that all ur J1IEX Entries i.e CIN entries are reversed , tell to Check in FI FOR T CODE FB03 .
reward for efforts.
sap11
Edited by: sap11 on Jan 24, 2008 10:49 AM

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As far as I see, there is no loss to the company,
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