Cineware, external compositing, and easing

apparently there's a known bug with Cineware and AE CC 2014, described here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/kb/c4d-ae-cc-2014-timed.html
the workaround to use After Effects 12.2 (CC) doesn't seem to work - i get the same wrong results as with CC 2014.
is there any other workaround, without buying Cinema4D, or do i have to look for anything special when using the plugin?
at the momment, the plugin is quite useless to me, as the 3d information is just not lining up correctly.
thanks in advance
tom

Hello Tom,
Thank you for calling attention to that document. It is out of date. The known issue has been resolved as of After Effects version 13.1 (CC2014) Make sure your software is fully up to date. If you are still having problems, send me a direct message and if you send me some sample files, I can address the problem in your project.
Thank you,
Greg

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[svn:osmf:] 13042: Fix for FM-287, reinstating the main sample ( that uses serial and parallel composition), and making another pass at getting all the changed trait methods mapped correctly back- and forth between JS and Flash .

Revision: 13042
Revision: 13042
Author:   [email protected]
Date:     2009-12-17 03:45:27 -0800 (Thu, 17 Dec 2009)
Log Message:
Fix for FM-287, reinstating the main sample (that uses serial and parallel composition), and making another pass at getting all the changed trait methods mapped correctly back- and forth between JS and Flash.
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After many years of having no problems at all on my Macbook, I recently figured I should finally upgrade my OS. I did that about three weeks ago, updating to Snow Leopard (10.6.8). I used Time Machine at least once after the OS upgrade but now Time Machine no longer recognizes the external drive I have used for all these years to back up. The MacBook does not "see" it. (Disk Utility does however.) The computer then also stopped recognizing another La Cie back-up that I have and now... my iPhone cannot download photos? Yikes.
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