CK11N - Product Cost
Hi !,
We have split the materials in valuation. My problem is when we are trying to run CK11n, and at this time it will not ask for material valuation type. Because we have diff price according to valuation type.
Please guide me what to do. and how to define valuation type in CK11n.
Thanks,
Dhamendra Gohel
dear friend,
what you could do (just an option) - to add the Search Help 'MBEW'
run SE11, type MAT1 as Search help, hit Change, select 'Maint. in logon lang.', goto 'Included search helps',
doubleclick on MAT1_A search help, goto 'Included search helps' again, swith to 'Change' mode
and add MBEW item. activate/save it. run CK11N in new session and find out new search tab.
of course, play in DEV system
good luck!
Similar Messages
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While product costing CK11N error
While using CK11N I am getting following error:
Sr.No. Error Description Msg No
1> No price could be determined for Material /Batch XXXXXXX/Plant XXXX 465
2> Cost Component split costed with value zero 240
3> No valid source of supply could be found. 380
4> Object was not costed 60
5> Cost estimate for material XXXXXXX /Plant XXXX is incorrect 168
Please help me how to fix above problem.
Thank you.Check following points,
Probably material might be split valuated,Check price is maintained for all valuation types including header in MM60.
Check price is maintained in info record.
Check type of procurement in MRP2,it will be external procurement - F.
Do product cost estimate using KKF6N.
Check production version is maintained in MRP4 ?
Check throughly all masters vendor,info record & material master.
It will solve the issue. -
Product costing erroe at the time of releasing the billing document in vf02
Hi co experts
while releasing billing document to accounting in T.Code VF02 it is showing error that no product costing estimate could be found
messege number ke380
i really appreciate for the early responce
regards
venkat
Edited by: venkataswamy bathini on Mar 14, 2009 10:43 AMHi
i have estimated the cost in ck11n ,marked and released in ck24.
the std price will updating in meterial master.
i tried the tranaction in vfo2, but still getting same error
this is the Diagnosis
in copa the system tried to find a product cost estimate for product 44 in plant 1100 that uses costong variant dc08
the system lokked for the cost estimate using costing keys dcb as defined in the copa customizing settings
Regards
venkat
Edited by: venkataswamy bathini on Mar 14, 2009 12:36 PM -
Product costing Cycle run for first time to complete backlog
Dear sir,
In my Company we went live in April 2011 and since then we never did settlement of Product costing as process was not stream line , but now (in Aug-2011) it is stream-line and we wanted to do Proper costing Cycle run & settlement too.
Can you please let me know that how to proceed further, what precautions must be taken and whether we have to do settlement for April till July or directly we can go for settlement of last month July-2011.
Please let me know detailed steps,
Thanks & Regards,
AshutoshHi,
Settlement will be done on period basis in you're case June month is closed and now open periods are July and august.
so the production orders can be settled collectively in CO88 for July month.
and for costing run i.e standard cost estimate you need correct BOM and Routing.
after doing settlement of production orders do costing run.
it's not mandatory that settlement should be done. even you can run the costing with out settlement.
costing run will consider the raw material prices ,activity prices sub-contracting price etc..
after considering the above prices after releasing the costing run it will update the actual price in the material master of the header material.
for indual material=CK11N and CK24
Collectively=CK40N
For the materials with Price indicator V(header materials) settlement is important here no cost estimate.
settlement of production order will leads to change the price in the material master. so here no Standard cost estimate..only settlement.
revert me if any issue
Regards,
Ravi -
BADI for changing the product cost
Hi All,
My requirement is to change the product cost when the costing engine is running via ck11n or ck40n. Iam looking for user exits and BADI's for this requirement.
I did look into the BADI DATA_EXTENSION_CK but this particular BADI does not have export or changing parameters. Can anyone suggest any user exit or BADI's for this requirement. I also looked into other BADI's like
CK_KALAMATCON2_CI
COSTINGRUN_CK
COST_APPORTION_CK
CO_PROD_COSTING_CK
DYNPRO_EXTENSION_CK
ORDER_COSTING_CK
QUANTITY_STRUCT_CK
SUR_STOCK_TRANSF_CK
VALUATION_CK
But none of them served the purpose. Plz help...Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Nirmal.Hello,
Will this help?
Product costing with Enhancement (Valuation variant with User Exit)
Cheers,
TD -
How the raw material cost is picked in product cost in case of split materi
how the raw material cost is picked in product cost in case of split material in BOM
Hi
In case of Std cost (CK11N), the planned price or MAP that you enter in the Parent accounting View will be considered for the cost calcualtoin purpose
Parent view means the view which is above the 2 or more valuation types which consists of avg value of all other val types
Ajay M -
Product costing related querry
What are the settings and configurations that are required to be done for production order costing by PP and FICO modules so that the order gets costing. I am told there are settings for activity type in workcenter. Also terms like cost carriers that bind the workcenter and the cost center and finally this data flowing after the confirmation is done.
Kindly explain the process and how to do the same in SAP system also.Dear Varun Kapoor,
Check this,
Product Cost = Materials Cost(ROH + HALB Materials Cost)Activity Cost (Operation Cost)Overhead Cost.
1.Raw materials cost are generally entered as Planned price along with the valid from date in Costing 2 view,and price
control indicator is "V".Origin group has to be given to all the Raw materials in costing 1 view.
2.For HALB Materials Price control indcator will be S for Inhouse manufactured & V for externally processed materials (Sub-
Contracted Items) respectively.Also assign Overhead group for all Inhouse manufactured items if a costing sheet is maintained for
overheads..
3.No need to enter any value(price) for the materials having S as the price indicator and for Sub-contracted itesm that's F30 also no
need to enter any cost in the material master.
4.Activity cost is the cost incurred in performing individual operation.This cost is captured via the work center which we mention in
each operation in the routing of that product.A Cost centre and an appropriate activity type is assigned in the work centre.
5.Proper Rates should be assigned for the combination of Activity type and Cost centre.
6.Overhead cost is the indirect cost that we capture according to the customer's requirement.
7.If certain items for certain products alone should not be considered for costing means,then we can achieve this using
costing relevancy indicator in the BOM and for the activity(operation's mentioned in routing) which should not be considered for costing
also can be mapped by removing the costing relevancy indicator in routing.
Overhead group is aasigned in Costing1 view.
8.Creating Cost center - KS01
9.Create Activity Type - KL01.
10.Assiging Rates for a cost center/activity type combination in T code KP26.
11.Cost estimate Related T codes are CK40N,CK11N,CK24.
12.UseCK40N always,so that you can do the costing ,mark the price and release the same.Generally Cost Rollup will be taken for
Finished product so that the sytem automatically calculates for the Semi-Finsihed products standard cost.
13.IF you use CK11N,then only costing will be done,but for marking and release you have to use CK24.
14.For each Production order type in T code OPL8 Order Type Dependent Parameters - Under controlling tab - Costing variant Planned
and actual has to be assigned.
15.In REM scenario - Product Cost Collector has to be created using T code KKF6N for all Inhouse Manufactured assemblies.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
1)what is different bitwen with quantity structureand with out quantity structure?
2)what is valvated stocks and non valvated stocks?
3)what is the need of cost component structure , how many segments can be define in cost component structure?
4)how we are going to do work ing progress in product cost
5) what are the status in order, types of order?Dear Pradeep,
1.Material Is Costed with Quantity Structure
This indicator determines whether the material is costed using costing with or without a quantity
structure.
This setting can be found in Costing1 view in the material master.
Use
If you usually cost materials using costing with quantity structure, turn on this indicator.
If you usually cost materials using costing without quantity structure, do not turn on this indicator.
You can change the indicator in the material master record at a later time.
Procedure
If you always cost your materials (including raw materials) using costing with quantity structure, you
should turn on this indicator. This improves performance, because the system does not search in vain
for existing cost estimates without a quantity structure for every material when it explodes the BOM.
Therefore, only turn on this indicator if you normally cost the materials using costing without quantity
structure.
Regardless of the setting, you can cost a single material with or without quantity structure. However,
you should bear in mind that this setting is always used in the costing run and in mixed costing
(creating procurement alternatives).
CK11N and CK40N is used for costing material with quantity structure.
KKPAN is used for creating material cost estimate without quantity structure.
2.Valuated stock is the stock of the materials maintained in value basis,it may be under Restricted use
or non-restricted use .
Nonvaluated materials (UNBW)
Nonvaluated materials are managed on a quantity basis, but not by value.
5.status in a production order are for Eg,
REL Released
PCNF Partially confirmed
PRC Pre-costed
BCRQ Order to be handled in b
GMPS Goods movement posted
MANC Mat.availability not che
PDLV Partially delivered
SETC Settlement rule created
So after performing each business funtion the status of the production order changes.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Actual Activity allocation and Planned and actual activity comparison issue in Product Costing
Friends,
I have tried to explain the issue i am facing currently under Product Costing......
1.Cost Component Structure
10 – Material
20 – Labour
30 – Diesel
40 – Electricity
2.KP26 – Planned under Fixed Price
Labour – 2.0 HR
Diesel – 1.0 HR
Electricity – 5.0 HR
3. When I run CK11N system collecting correct rates for all activities (Costing Lot Size- 1)
Like;
1 E LAB10 994310 2.00 2.00 AED 1.0 HR Labour Cost New
2 E DIE20 994320 5.00 5.00 AED 1.0 HR Diesel Cost New
3 E ELE30 994330 1.00 1.00 AED 1.0 HR Electricity Cost
4 M 1100000042 5.00 0.00 AED 1 PC RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
5 G 994201 0.00 0.00 AED Depriciation Cost
6 G 994202 0.00 0.00 AED Sales & Distribution Cost
13.00 AED
4.When I do process order Cost analysis for the produced goods it shows me different figures as my
BOM – RM is 1100000042 1 Quantity
Routing – All activity time is 1 Hr
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67
2.67- AED
Note :- As per my understanding it should be
Labour Cost New 2.00
Diesel Cost New 5.00
Electricity Cost 1.00
5.Now after Process Order confirmation
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 00.00
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 4.00
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 5.00
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 2.00
16.00
6.For Month end actual Activity calculation and load the activaty actual rates on product
I have configured the system in below manner
1 Work center = Mapped to 1 Production Cost center
Three Different Activities mapped to Secondary Cost Element with 43 Category
For Electrictity Activity assesment from Primary to secondary 1 more cost element created with
Category 42 Like; 994215-Electricity Cost All
One Actual Assessment has been configured to allocate Electricity cost from Primary Cost element to
Product/Order
7.Assessment Cycle Details
Controlling Area 1000 Controlling Area
Cycle ZELE01 Status Reviewed
Start Date 01.01.2014 To 31.10.2014
Text Elec. Cost Allocation to PROD
IND- Interactive
Assessment CEle 994215 Electricity Cost All
Sender
Cost Center CBAKYDXBAD
Cost Element 40204
Receiver
Cost Center CBAKYPDDXB
Tracing Factor
Var.portion type – Actual Activity
Selaction Criteria
Activity Type - ELE30
Receivers Tracing Factor
Cost Ctr Factor per 100
CBAKYPDDXB 100
8.I have received the actuall electricity bill for 1100 AED and the same has accocated through KSU5
After Cycle run when I follow below procedure
KSS2 Actual cost splitting
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB01 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE02 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE03 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb DIE20 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb ELE30 183.33
CBAKYPDDXB Production Dxb LAB10 183.35
1100.00
Issue – System Split Electricity cost between all the activities assigned to Workcentres Cost Centre.
But I want to post that cost only to ELE30 Activity and not for all
When I RUN KSSI for actual Price determination system shows
OTy Object Name AUn Act Qty Total price Price (Fixed) PUnit
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 Production Dxb HR 5.0 366.66 366.66 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.65 916.65 10
ATY CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 Production Dxb HR 2.0 916.75 916.75 10
2200.06
2200.06 is almost double than 1100.00 which is actual electricity cost and the same is actually determined for all the activities.
After revaluation of the process order system posting below values
40002 RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED 1005/1100000042 5.00 5.00
40015 COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED 1005/4400000071 13.00- 13.00-
994310 Labour Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10 1.33 183.35
994320 Diesel Cost New CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20 3.33 183.33
994330 Electricity Cost CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30 0.67 183.33
2.67- 542.01
Production Variance is posted as 542.01….
I strongly believe there is some issue in configuration for activity allocation….
Main issue is
Point No. 4 – Different Figures in Process Order Cost Analysis
Point No. 7 – Assessment cycle run
Point No. 8 – KSS2 and KSII for Actual cost Allocation and Production variance…
Friends… I have tried to explain maximum please help me to understand the concept or missing configuration/Process.
Thanks
Sagar ChinchkarDear Rajneesh,
I have made the changes as suggested....
It seems now my Order Cost analysis and Product cost analysis are showing the same figures.
I have also maintained cost center splitting structure for ELE30 Activity allocation.
Structure Z1
Splitting structure for AT
Assignment 10
Electricity Cost
100
Allocation for ELE
Cost Element
994215
Activity Type
ELE30
Splitting Rule
100
Allocation for ELE
12
Activity quantity
Version 0
In my case actual activity confirmed is 3.1 for 2 orders in period 5
Order 1 - QTY 2
Order 2 - QTY 1.1
Total actual Electricity exp is 1150 in period 5
followed procedure to post actual activity on product is mentioned below
KSS2 Actual cost splitting - Result as expected 1150 for ELE30
KSII Actual price determination - Result as expected 3.1 actual confirmed QTY for ELE30 with actual price
QTY 3.1 Tot Price 3,709.68 Planned(FIX) 3,709.68 Per Units 10
(System is doing 1150/3.1*10=3709.68)
3.CON2 Actual revaluation of orders
Here while reevaluating the Process Orders system calculation is different
Order 1 - QTY 2 - 558.00
Order 2 - QTY 1.1 - 407.56
Total - 965.57
4. After CON2 system is changing the value of other activities like
LAB10 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
DIE20 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
Which should not be the case....
PL Act Var
40002
RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
1005/1100000042
10.00
15.00
50.00
40015
COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED
1005/4400000074
26.00-
26.00-
994201
Depriciation Cost
WMBDDEP01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994202
Sales & Distribution Cost
WMBDS&A01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994310
Labour Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10
4.00
0.00
100.00-
994320
Diesel Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20
10.00
0.00
100.00-
994330
Electricity Cost
CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30
2.00
408.06
20,303.00
If we want to just post Electricity cost based on actual Electricity expenses and Labor and Diesel are based on planned activity rates.
What setting is required in current system.....
Million thanks in advance....
Regards
Sagar Chinchkar -
Kindly suggest me some books on Product costing.
Thanks & RegardsHi Friends,
CK11N does not create an accounting document. If your costed material has price control "S" and you release the plan cost estimate (CK24) the S-price will be changed and if there is a quantity on stock this new valuation creates an accounting document.
What is Quantity on Stock ?
Would anyone through some light on that ?
Thanks in Advance
Neela -
How to Close Planned Over Heads in product costing
HI,
We are maintaining planned over heads through KP26 and Costing sheet.Kindly tell me how to close planned over head wether it is periodicall closing or other?
Kindly provide me the guide lines how to do this Planned overheads closing in the system?How many ways are there to close planned overheads in the system?
Kindly adviice me?
Thanks
SunithaDear Sunitha,
To run the Cost estimate or close the planned overhead KP26 and Costing Sheet is not enough you have to move forward and you need to define Cost component Structure (OKTZ) Path: SPRO > IMG > Controlling > Product Cost Controlling > Product Cost Planning > Basic Setting for Material Costing > Define Cost Component Structure. After maintaining cost component structure you need to define Costing variant T.code OKKN Path: SPRO > IMG > Controlling > Product Cost Controlling > Product Cost Planning > Material Cost Estimate with Quantity Structure . Here you copy PPC1 standard and create your own costing Variant.
After Maintaining the Configuration go to T.code CK11n and run your costing and if it is correct then save it. To update Price in MM run T.code CK24 and release Material and update it.
thx.
Ganpat -
Dear Experts,
Could you advise me in the following senario
While extending material ,I input the standard and variable cost incorrectly as 348.2 per KG EGP instead of 0.34 EGP.
A process order 104568508 was created and for the material. The material was despatched on SAP.
After despatching we noticed the error as variance. We modifed the cost and after that we made goods returned. So the material was despatched with the huge cost and returned with correct 'low' cost which caused a huge loss on SAP.
Regards,Can you advise me in this scenario
1-Product created on SAP via MM01 with incorrect cost 348 EGP per KG instead of 0.348 EGP per KG
2-when Process order was created for this product a huge variance about 24 Million EGP had been occurred
3- The inventory issued this product
4-while doing invoicing this product blocked in VFX3 as there is no cost estimate for it
5- when I have executed CK11n the cost result was 0.29 per KG
6-i have executed CK24 which lead to updating to the cost
7- i have made release via vfx3 and i noticed the huge cost in KE24
8- while we made return the product received in the warehouse with the low cost -
Blogs for Product Cost Planning (CO-PC-PCP)
The intent of this thread is to collect the relevant blogs in CO-PC-PCP are
1. How to Configure Mixed Costing
/people/young.sun/blog/2010/05/17/how-to-configure-mixed-costing
2. Currency translation when calculating price from purchasing info record
Blogs for Product Cost Planning (CO-PC-PCP)
Edited by: Young Sun on Oct 7, 2010 7:50 AMHi,
Followings are the steps for configure the mixed costing in sap
A. Create a Procurement Altternative in CK91N for each of the 4 prod version... Choose process category = Production in CK91N
B. 1 Now, create a mix cost ratio for each of these 4 proc alternative in CK94....
B.2 To maintain a mix ratio in CK94, you need to maintain Qty Structure Type.. Follow the below steps
create a Qty Structure Type in IMG - Controlling > Product Cost Controlling > Product Cost Planning > Selected Functions in Material Costing > Mixed Costing
> Define Quantity Structure Types - Define Qty Str Type here and assign it in the next step
> Define Costing Versions - Assign Qty Str Type to your costing version 1 and Costing Type
C. Now run CK11N.. Your std cost will be a weighted average of all the 4 prod versions... And target cost in production order will be based on the prod version used in prod order
Regards
Ashok verma -
Hi,
Would you help me out in product costing of REM scenario where HALB is given for subcontracting.Here I want to know in standard cost estimation how the cost of each activity type is incurred.
Regds,
sats.Dear Dilip,
Whether its Discrete or REM scenario,for Semi-finished products(Sub-contracted) generally BOM is maintained along with the BOM
components and along with the Source List & Info record for sub-contracting process.
So while doing the Cost rollup for the Finished product , the standard cost for the HALB is automatically calculated.
So the price of that sub-contracted product = Raw materials cost (as per the planned price given in costing 2 view) + sub-contracting
charges (activity cost for doing the activity).
The cost calculation is done using CK40N or using CK11N+CK24.
Revert back in case of any more queries.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
How the Trading Goods mapped in to Product costing and COPA in Controlling
Dear Experts,
I have a trading goods scenario in my client. How the mapping into Product Costing and COPA.
They just purchase FG products from Vendors and Sell to their Customers, they received FG Products to Main Plant from Vendors and then sends to Branches from Main Plant, In between some expenses accured like Transport, Fright etc. this is my scenario.
How the settings to be made in Product costing and COPA.
I am waiting for your favorable reply.
Thanks,
KBR.Hi Bhaskar
I believe branches are also created as Plants
You have 2 choices....
Choice 1: If the Freight amount is known @ the time of Transfer from Main plant to Branches, include the same in STO so that inventory value in Branch = Purchase Value + Freight amount
CHoice 2: If thats not possible, then inventory value in Branch will be same as the Main plant... The expenses incurred on freight needs to be posted to a cost center... Then allocate them @ month end based on revenue / Quantity sold etc using KEU5
Whichever choice you make, Product Costing is not relevant and required as well... You dont need to do any CK11N
If you want to see in COPA Purchase value separate and the Freight, etc separate - Then choice 2 is the route for you
br, Ajay M
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