Clean lion install 2010mbp with no recoveryHD

I have a late 2010 mpb ([email protected], 4gb, 1tbHDD, 256ssd(failed:currently getting replaced)) And im having issues with expanding my partition. Its a file system verification error. I tried multiple things so Im going to wipe the disk and reinstall lion. I have a backup but last time i restored from it I didnt get the recovery partition wich caused some problems because I need it. My only issue is that My Mac came with SL preinstalled so I only have the sl disks. I'd rather not have to install SL, then update to lion cause Im short for time, but i cant use the recovery partition either because that doesnt exist. I attempted to download the recovery disk assistant but it requires an existion Recovery HD which for me doesnt exist. I was hoping that someone might be able to hlep me out with this mess...
bit of back story, I had the lion R HD but when my ssd failed and i used my SL disk to restore from a Lion backup It didnt give me my R HD.

also i tried to download the apple usb maker but it just doesnt download
Downloads just fine here.
nor do I know anyone with the same MBP.
Not necessary, pick a newer machine if you suspect a potential compatability problem, I haven't heard of any yet.
just recently the icons on the desktop will disapear and instanly re-appear as i was typing that it just happened again, could this be related?
You have another serious issue.
IMO your going to need to data recovery to a storage drive (not TimeMachine)
Create a data recovery, undelete boot drive
Install 10.6 via a Zero Erase of the entire 10.7 drive
Reducing bad sectors effect on hard drives
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
then upgrade to 10.7 again, install programs and files from a external storage drive, not from TimeMachine or clone, aka a "Fresh Install" method.
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Refresh macbook pro with clean Lion install

I have a macbookpro I want to give to a family member.
I have Lion installed on it already via the App Store upgrade (no disk).
What is the best procedure to refresh the entire computer with a clean install of Lion, reformated and no tracks my user or all of the development libraries, etc I've installed over the years, etc.?
Is there a way to do this without needing the physical media?
Can it refresh itself (reformat, etc) while retaining the OS in memory or something?
Should I use another computer or a harddrive connected via firewire?

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-1992 backup your data at least twice. Only do this if you want to eliminate all possible software issues at once. Run the Lion Recovery function:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
Once backed up if you want to find out why a software issue may be happening, ask in the forum after backing up, but before trying any Recovery function.

Can't install from disk on clean Lion install

Doing the lion upgrade caused a slew of problems on my machine (as well as many others from the look of the discussion boards) So I did a clean install.
Everything is working beautifully, except when I try to install Remote Desktop 3. I just purchased it last week, but the disc version is 3.3, so it will not allow me to install on Lion. It says "Can not install, this software requires Mac OS X 10.6". When I go to the downloads section on the support site, all that is avaiable is an Update .dmg for 3.5, which says it can't install since it can't find an older version of ARD to update.
Does anyone have a work around for this? Or is the full 3.5 .dmg install package avaiable for download somewhere on the support pages that I'm just not finding?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I just had the same issue. Clean Lion (Server) install with the same error message.
I solved it this way.
Insert the Remote Desktop 3.x CD
Open the context menu (right-click) for the Remote Desktop-package
Choose "Show package contents".
Go to /Contents/Installers/
Open the context menu (right-click) for RemoteDesktopAdmin.pkg
Choose "Show package contents".
Go to /Contents
Move the file Archive.pax.gz to your desktop
Extract it
Open the new Archive-folder on your desktop
Copy the RemoteDesktop.app from the /Applications-folder to your local applications folder
Run the update for ARD 3.5
That's it...
Hope this helps...

Lion install breaks with blackscreen

After purchase and install the installprogress stops at 3 minutes left with black screen. After hard-off
and restart installprogress starts again with same error at 3 minutes left. Again and again.
After that i delete the harddrive and make a clear SnowLeo install. After that i do all possible updates (10.6.8)
and after that Lion install again.
Same blackscreen on 6 minutes left to install end of showed timeline.
MBP 2.26 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM
just one admin user
just one harddrive
no additional partitions
no bootcamp used

also i tried to download the apple usb maker but it just doesnt download
Downloads just fine here.
nor do I know anyone with the same MBP.
Not necessary, pick a newer machine if you suspect a potential compatability problem, I haven't heard of any yet.
just recently the icons on the desktop will disapear and instanly re-appear as i was typing that it just happened again, could this be related?
You have another serious issue.
IMO your going to need to data recovery to a storage drive (not TimeMachine)
Create a data recovery, undelete boot drive
Install 10.6 via a Zero Erase of the entire 10.7 drive
Reducing bad sectors effect on hard drives
How to erase and install Snow Leopard 10.6
then upgrade to 10.7 again, install programs and files from a external storage drive, not from TimeMachine or clone, aka a "Fresh Install" method.
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Clean Lion install, keeping Time Machine history?

I have a 2011 unibody MBP, and have been gathering kludge on it for some time, and on previous machines (2007 MBP, 2004 Powerbook) whose data I've migrated over using the Migration Assitant. I'd like to, at some point soon, do a fresh install of Lion, grab my data from backup (or a disk image clone), and reinstall my applications (only the ones I'm currently using, with no detritus from other apps I've installed, used, and since uninstalled).
However, I use a Time Capsule (1 TB) for backups, and wanted to know two things:
Is it possible, after doing the install, to have the previous history of my computer (on the Time Capsule) integrated with my current and future Time Machine backups? (I.e., the Time Capsule sees the new, clean machine as the same machine, and allows me to step into my file history and grab stuff, if need be.)
If the answer to the above question is yes, how would I do this?
Apologies in advance if this question has been answered elsewhere. A cursory perusal of the discussions here didn't turn up anything; but I know there's the chance I could have missed something.
Thanks,
Paul

Having no answer, I took the decision to experiment.
I renamed the new external USB HDD with the same name as the older (soon to be replaced) ones and copied via Finder all the files on it (Aperture libraries, videos, documents).
By using Time Machine while on the new drive (not backing up, but just looking at older backups), I was able to see the previous versions of the external USB HDD files. So I thought that was that easy.
So I decided to manually trigger a new TM backup. However, it computed something like close to 500 GB to backup. Thus eventhough in terms of history for now I can trick TM to think it is the same HDD, when it comes to create a new backup, it simply wants to rebackup everything.
Now I'm getting worried because:
I don't know if the history will be kept after the backup has run;
Because it will push 500GB of data to the TM storage, it might fill it up and TM will start to remove older backup whereas this would have been unnecessary.
Note: I don't rely solely on TM for backup, I use Crashplan as well. So if I lose TM, it is "OK" as I could always restore something from Crashplan, but then for the oldest backup (for the last 2 years) I would only have one copy instead of 2... It is not that critical as I do not think I deleted something I would like to restore from that time period. But our of curiosity I would like to still found out how to properly change an external HDD that was backed-up by Time Machine without losing the history.

Clean Lion install problems

when i try to do a clean install of lion on my 2008 macbook from usb drive, it boots into the drive then brings up a window that says "installing" then that windows closes and another comes up saying "could not install mac os x please reinstall" what can i do to fix this? Should i just install snow leopard and go from there?

Where did this USB drive come from? However it was made, it was made incorrectly. You will need to fall back to Snow Leopard, update it to 10.6.8, then redownload the Lion installer from the App Store.
Have you tried booting from the Recovery HD and reinstalling via Internet Recovery?
Install or Reinstall Lion from Scratch
If possible backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive.
Boot to the Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Erase the hard drive:
Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
Quit DU and return to the main menu.
Reinstall Lion: Select Reinstall Lion and click on the Install button.
Note: You can also re-download the Lion installer by opening the App Store application. Hold down the OPTION key and click on the Purchases icon in the toolbar. You should now see an active Install button to the right of your Lion purchase entry. There are situations in which this will not work. For example, if you are already booted into the Lion you originally purchased with your Apple ID or if an instance of the Lion installer is located anywhere on your computer.
Make Your Own Lion Installer
1. After downloading Lion you must first save the Install Mac OS X Lion application. After Lion downloads DO NOT click on the Install button. Go to your Applications folder and make a copy of the Lion installer. Move the copy into your Downloads folder. Now you can click on the Install button. You must do this because the installer deletes itself automatically when it finishes installing Lion.
2. Get a USB flash drive that is at least 8 GBs. Prep this flash drive as follows:
Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
3. Locate the saved Lion installer in your Downloads folder. CTRL- or RIGHT-click on the installer and select Show Package Contents from the contextual menu. Double-click on the Contents folder to open it. Double-click on the SharedSupport folder. In this folder you will see a disc image named InstallESD.dmg.
4. Plug in your freshly prepared USB flash drive. You are going to clone the InstallESD.dmg disc image to the flash drive as follows:
Open Disk Utility.
Select the USB flash drive from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the USB flash drive volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Drag the InstallESD.dmg disc image file into the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
When the clone is completed you have a fully bootable Lion installer that you can use without having to re-download Lion.

Clean Lion install and the Mac App Store issues

Hi,
I'm having a great week with lion.
First FileVault failed and encryption, causing corruption on the disk. Then the timemachine backup was corrupted in continous progress status.
After formatting my iMac hard drive and doing a clean install and slowing piecing my data together from the failed timemachine backup and a old CCC backup, I've found I can't reinstall the apps I got from the Mac App Store. The apps are marked as installed but ofcourse they aren't since I formatted my hard drive.
Seriously Apple is this a beta release? I thought only Microsolf used its user base as application testers. Is there a fix or do i need to download the apps again from the developer site if they are available?

ricardofromvalencia wrote:
... or I only need to buy it once and I can install it in my 2 computers?
yes.

MBP won't sleep, but a clean Lion install does sleep

Since the install of Lion my old MBP, the MBP won't go to sleep.
I did a clean install of Lion on an external HD and it sleeps just fine. Therefore it must be something I migraded from my old SL.
Before I rebuild my MBP is there a plist file that I can delete that might help fix this no-sleep problem?
If not, then I'll start moving forward with rebulding my external HD and then tranfer it to my internal HD.
Thanks in advance for any help!!!

Thanks, I'll take a look. I killed all the pgms that my logon starts.
I also need to try to come in single user and see if that helps.
Comparing will be difficult since it looks like 10 pages printing out, but it's a good idea.
I was hoping just deleting a plist would fix it..I haven't rebuilt the system for many years, so I am also thinking about that as an alternative. I'll check the sleep function after every few apps that I add.

Macbook pro running slow and jumpy after clean lion install

Did an upgrade to Lion. Macbook pro was really slow, tried disk repair and repairing permission as well as resetting the smc. No luck. Did a clean install of Lion, still jumpy though a bit faster. Again verified disk (didnt need repair) and repaired permission, as well as smc reset. Still no luck. Anyone have any ideas?

What do you mean, 'jumpy'? Also, has Spotlight stopped indexing? Check the magnifying class in the upper right corner and click on it. If it doesn't say it's indexing, then it completed that task. How much RAM do you have in your system?

Is it possible to completely restore from Snow Leopard TimeMachine Backup after a clean Lion install?

Hello,
I cannot install Lion because my disk cannot be used, so I am planning to do a full, clean install of the system. My question is if it is possible to restore entirely from the TimeMachine backup after that or if it is better to spend time for figuring out how to remove the "this disk cannot be used" message in the lion installer?
Thanks,
Thomas

Just a gut feeling, if you are getting "disk cannot be used" errors you need to figure out why first before you try to install something else. Have u run Disk Utility from within the Lion installer? Try that and see if what kindof errors you get there...
But yes, assuming the disk is still in good shape, and you have the SL installer DVD, you should be able to do a reinstall and use the TM backup to get things back into the shape they were in before you tried to install Lion.
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Wifi Dropping Even After Clean Lion Install

Hey guys,
I upgraded to Lion after its release and ever since then my wifi has been driving me CRAZY. The wifi disconnects, and when I click on my network I get the error that the connection timed out. I'm always forced to turn the wifi off and then back on.
It happened a TON, and consistently. It's extremely frustrating especially when I'm in the middle of a movie on my Apple TV and my iMac loses its internet and interupts the show. Sometimes it happens three or more times during one show.
So I decided to do a clean install of Lion. I made sure all my important documents were on my Hard Drive and even wrote a list out of every application that I use regularly. Then I completely reformated my hard drive and did a clean install of Lion.
But the issue is still happening. Still happening! I don't know what to do! Every computer in the house connects just fine and stays connected.
I'm tried changing my MTU in the hardware tab of the Advanced network settings to 1280 because some people reported that helped but it still doesn't help.
Please. I'm at a loss. The issue makes my iMac unusable and frustrating.

I would try rebooting while holding down the Command - R keys to get into the Recovery Partition. There, run Disk Repair and then run Repair Permissions twice. If that doesn't completely resolve it the the next step is to reset the PRAM, by rebooting while holding down the Command-Option-P-R keys. These may be the problem solvers you need.
Hope this helps

Should I do a clean OS install after buying second hand MacBook?

I just bought a second hand MacBook 2010 for my girlfriend. It came with a clean Lion installed. What is making me paranoid is that I use tracking software Prey on my own MBP and now how can I be sure that the new one hasn't got tracking software installed for opposite reason (to steal it and sell again)?
I know it might sound stupid, but I like to be prepared for the worst. So should I format the drive and install Lion again? What would you do?

I would never run a used Mac "as is"; there is too much potential for security violations or just software problems. I strongly recommend, unless you completely trust the person from whom you purchased the Mac, that you erase the hard drive and reinstal Mac OS X. That way you start fresh, without any of the cruft that accumulates on any OS, and of course remove any potential for malware such as a keylogger.
Regards.

While intending to perform a clean install of Mountain Lion while continuing with old apps and files, is it a waste to restore a backup that was made while running Mountain Lion as an UPgrade from Lion?

While intending to perform a clean install of Mountain Lion while continuing with old apps and files, is it a waste to restore a backup that was made while running Mountain Lion as an UPgrade from Lion?
Originally I was running Mountain Lion as an UPgrade from Lion. I created a backup in Time Machine, performed a clean install of Mountain Lion, then I proceeded to use Time Machine to restore the back up.
When thinking about the essence of a back up restore, it occurrs to me that for all I know, I may have just wated my time IF Time Machine also restores all the old unneeded files that remain from Lion after an upgrade.
Since the backup was made while running Mountain Lion as an upgrade from Lion, did restoring this backup defeat the purpose of a clean install by reinstalling old Lion files?
If so, how can I re-do the last portion of the process so that I get all my home-folder files and apps back without the full bulk of old Lion files? Migration assistant I'm guessing?
-Chris

Hello John!
Thank you for your response which solved my problem. For other users who may stumble upon this, I'll clear up the confusion and share how I solved the problem with your help; When looking for answers to my computer problems, finding unresolved questions where person B offers a solution and person A never comes back and says "That worked, thank you.", it demonstrates a "k-thnx-bye" user mentality that leaves others with the same problem lost. Without further ado:
It is not clear what you did because the meaning of "clean install" is vague. You can erase a volume and install an OS which leaves none of its previous content intact,
This is what I did: I erased the volume leaving no previous content intact, while then installing OS X Mountain Lion.
or you can upgrade an existing OS (or reinstall the same one) which does not alter your user - installed files.
An upgrade to Mountain Lion from Lion is what I started with initially before erasing anything. This was undesirable. Since this can cause Macs to run slower (especially whereas I'm using a mid-2011 Mac Mini), my goal was to go from operating within an upgrade to Mountain Lion, to operating within an installation of Montain Lion that was not preceded by any other oprating system.
Hence a "clean install of Mountain Lion while continuing with old apps and files" is confusing.
Well put and understood. What I should have said was:
1.Erase the volume
2.Install Mountain Lion clean
3.Confirm that Mountain Lion is functioning properly
4.Proceed to use either Time Machine or Migration Assistant to Import/Migrate/Copy over only two things; My old apps (That had been stored originally in the designated Applications folder) and all files and folders originally stored in the home folder under users.
If you restore from a Time Machine backup then all modifications that occurred subsequent to that backup become erased. It renders moot any OS X upgrade performed subsequent to that backup.
That makes sense and is just as I later suspected.
If so, how can I re-do the last portion of the process so that I get all my home-folder files and apps back without the full bulk of old Lion files? Migration assistant I'm guessing?
Yes.
This is what I did and everything works perfectly. Thank you so much once again!
-Chris

Installing Lion clean on hard drive with multiple partitions

I have a spring 2008 24" iMac running Snow Leopard.
I am about to put a new 2TB hard drive in it and after I do that I want to do a clean install of Lion on it.
I do not want to upgrade my Snow Leopard install to Lion. I will keep it on my back up drive as a fallback incase of serious workflow incompatiblities with the new OS.
For my workflow I create and use multiple partitions (Mac OS, Windows and multiple HFS+ for data) on my hard drive and I have seen that Lion creates it's own hidden recovery partition as well for the recovery functionality.
My questions are:
1) Will I have issues running Lion on a partition on a hard drive with multiple partitions that have different file systems?
2) If I install Lion into one of these partitions will it create it's recovery partition within the space of the partition it is being installed into?
3) I will be creating a clean install by downloading Lion using the App Store and then burning an installer DVD using instructions I found elsewhere and then using that to do the install on the new drive. Is that the best route to take?
All my current data I will have on a backup external hard drive and after I complete the Lion install on the new larger drive I will manually reinstall all my software and move my data back from my backup drive to the new drive one partition at a time except of course for OS partition. I keep all my real user data outside of that partition anyway.

I believe this article answers most of your questions.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718
or possibly
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4649
You will most likely run into the error message that "Some features of Mac OS X Lion are not supported for the disk" if you have multiple partitions set up, especially if they were not set up using Bootcamp and/or have serveral different file systems.
You can confirm that the Recovery Partition will not be installed by checking Disk Utility for your current partition map scheme.
This is most definitely not the end of the world as it is quite easy to create an external Recovery disk.
1) No, you shouldn't have issues running Lion, but Recovery HD will not be created.
2) No, and in your case it doesn't sound like it will be installed on your internal drive at all.
3) Yes. If you begin with an empty partition, then install Lion that would be considered a clean install.
Hope that helps.
Autumn

How to completely erase ( no recovery partition remaining) a lion partition with disk utilities on lion install disk?

Where in a lion install disc made from the installer can I find a bootable file with disk utilities?
I downloaded lion a few hours ago and installed.
I have 4 large hardrives (1.5TB) arranged in 8 partitions to allow me to work on a varied group of projects. I have some projects that need to be worked on with software running under Tiger, some with software that runs under leopard, some with snow leopard, and now Lion. I own multiple copies of software and multiple user pack system install discs.
On a regular basis, I back up chunks of work on projects to external discs, and special backup areas on one of my drives. I don't like using time machine because I am running many operating environments on my mac pro and I don't ever want to be tied to one operating environment for important functionality, and I want to maximize the open space on my hard drives.
Several partitions involve large video files. I am working on them in various versions of final cut, premiere and imovie. Because I have to use the same software versions my different clients are running, I don't want to move all the files " up" to a modern version. It would be professional suicide to stop accommodating my various clients. I say this to try to head off being told to make my clients upgrade. There are too many different clients and they are not going to replace all their equipment.
On these volumes with video files, I often fill them up and copy off what I need to backup before I erase and do a clean install. I also run VM Fusion and windows XP. I absolutely do not want to have a Recovery HD partition left on the drive when I erase or influencing the other partions using different OS versions on that same drive.
Is there a bootable disc on the installer disk I just made? Can I use the disk utilities to do a low level erase on the lion volume that will remove the recovery partition?
Can I go back to booting from Snow Leopard and erasing the Recovery partition with the drive partition that way? Will the Snow Leopard utility take out the Lion HD recovery partition?
I am used to erasing my drives and rebuilding my machine and I believe it is the right way to use my multiple drives in my workflow. Now that I've got this invisible recovery partition, can you help me remove it and create a bootable disc that includes disk utilities?

I assume the unix pdisk command will show you want is going on.
You may not have a big worry. There have always been a lot of hidden partitions. Disk Utility under 10.4.11 reports this drive has three (my now report four ) partitions, when pdisk reports that there are 15.
Macintosh-HD -> Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
Press return when done typing sudo pdisk -l
-l include a lower case L
The sudo command will ask for your administration password. No characters will appear when typing your password. Press return when done typing. sudo stands for super user do. It's just like root. Be careful.
mac $ sudo pdisk -l
Password:
Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/rdisk0'
#:                type name                    length   base      ( size )
1: Apple_partition_map Apple                       63 @ 1
2:      Apple_Driver43*Macintosh                   56 @ 64
3:      Apple_Driver43*Macintosh                   56 @ 120
4:    Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh                   56 @ 176
5:    Apple_Driver_ATA*Macintosh                   56 @ 232
6:      Apple_FWDriver Macintosh                  512 @ 288
7: Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh                  512 @ 800
8:       Apple_Patches Patch Partition            512 @ 1312
9:     Apple_Bootstrap untitled                  1954 @ 149319048
10:           Apple_HFS Apple_HFS_Untitled_1   2254440 @ 263968    ( 1.1G)
11:     Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled               6617188 @ 149321002 ( 3.2G)
12:           Apple_HFS Apple_HFS_Untitled_2 146538496 @ 2780552   ( 69.9G)
13:     Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap                    363298 @ 155938190 (177.4M)
14:          Apple_Free Extra                   262144 @ 1824      (128.0M)
15:          Apple_Free Extra                   262144 @ 2518408   (128.0M)
Device block size=512, Number of Blocks=156301488 (74.5G)
DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
Drivers-
1: 23 @ 64, type=0x1
2: 36 @ 120, type=0xffff
3: 21 @ 176, type=0x701
4: 34 @ 232, type=0xf8ff

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