Clear explanation of Sender Agreement, Receiver Determination..etc

Hi Experts,
In Configuration, I know the terms Sender Agreement, Receiver Determination, Interface Determination and Receiver Agreement.
But I would like to understand cleary what exactly each of above term and what it does.
No direct technical definitions please.. as i already read those in help.sap.com
Can someone please explain in usual simple terms, which even a layman can also understand what is SenderAgreement, Receiver determiniation etc..
Thanks in advance.
Sree

Hi sree,
u need to give Receiver of ur message in receiver determination....if u hv more than one recivers of ur messages then u can also do this with condition
in receiver determination we give sender service, sender interface and receivers
now we must provide inbound interface( interface/structre of receiver)...so we provide it in interface determination 
Sender agreement contains sender communication channel...that is one who can understand message from sender...eg if ur sender is file ur sender Comm channel will b file.
Similarly Receiver agreement contains receiver communication channel...that is one who can convert message understandable to receiver...eg if ur receiver is RFC ,ur receiver Comm channel will b RFC.
is it clear??? if not u can ask again....we r here to help u
Thanks,
Maheshwari.

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Unfortunately you will have to do that
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Hi Venkataramesh,
I understand your scenario as, picking files (different file naming standard for different target customer) from one source folder. Based on file name, that payload should be sent to corresponding target customer. You have mentioned u201CHere we are not using any ESR objectsu201D. I can see two reasons for this decision
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<Receivers>
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 <Party agency="" scheme=""></Party>
 <Service></Service>
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Interface and Receiver determination steps

Dear Experts,
I have list of queries which I am facing issue in ID. I am working on SOAP<->SAP-PI<->PROXY scenario.
1. Created 2 Service Interface i.e. SI_SOAP_OB and SI_PROXY_IB in ESR.
My question is that in the sender and receiver tab what should be the entries in Business System of SOAP and PROXY systems ( i.e. BS system created under the node Communication Component without party). I created this Business System ABAP from the entries of SLD.
2. What is the sequence of steps in the ID i.e. Cc,ID,RD,SA,RA.
3. In the Receiver Determination, I can see in the "Configuration Overview" tab
that the PROXY business system has red entries. I think that this system should show SI_PROXY_IB
but it shows SI_SOAP_OB.
4. When trying to create Interface Determination, I receive "JAVA.lang stack overflow error"
and INTERNAL ERROR.I made sure that there is no inactivated objects under my user.
5. I am sure that the step till creating SI in ESR and sender agreement in ID is correct. Can I create proxy as well as WSDL with end point at this stage.
I need urgent suggestions from experts , kindly help.
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Alice Rebecca

1. Created 2 Service Interface i.e. SI_SOAP_OB and SI_PROXY_IB in ESR.
My question is that in the sender and receiver tab what should be the entries in Business System of SOAP and PROXY systems ( i.e. BS system created under the node Communication Component without party). I created this Business System ABAP from the entries of SLD.
ANS -
For SOAP, anything like Legacy_filer can be created & used.
For PROXY, use the business system of R/3 system maintained in SLD.
2. What is the sequence of steps in the ID i.e. Cc,ID,RD,SA,RA.
ANS-
Sender CC
Sender Agreement
Rec Determination
Int Determination
Rec CC
Rec Agreement.
Create the steps in COnfiguration Scenario directly.
3. In the Receiver Determination, I can see in the "Configuration Overview" tab
that the PROXY business system has red entries. I think that this system should show SI_PROXY_IB
but it shows SI_SOAP_OB.
4. When trying to create Interface Determination, I receive "JAVA.lang stack overflow error"
and INTERNAL ERROR.I made sure that there is no inactivated objects under my user.
ANS
its cache error. Go for full cache refresh in IB>AdministrationData cahce--cache refresh.
5. I am sure that the step till creating SI in ESR and sender agreement in ID is correct. Can I create proxy as well as WSDL with end point at this stage.
ANS
Nope. create the structure in ESR & generate proxy for the same in ECC system. that's it. No need of WSDL here.
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What is the Receiver determination Conditon

Hi Experts,
I want to know when we will use receiver determination condition. How it will be where we can mention.

HI
Tasks at configuration time.
The 3 task areas at Configuration time are the Collaboration profile, Logical Routing, and the Collaboration agreement.
u2022Collaboration Profile u2013 (Objects: Communication Party, Service and Communication Channel)
u2022Logical Routing u2013 (Objects: Receiver Determination, Interface Determination)
u2022Collaboration Agreement u2013 (Objects: Sender Agreement, Receiver Agreement)
In the Collaboration profile we specify which services (Business Service, Business Process or Business System) will participate in a message exchange. For each we may also specify a communication channel, which represents the technical communication path. (For instance, the adapter type and configuration parameters for the adapter)
In Logical Routing we determine both who should be receiver of a message and what interface should receive the message.
In a Collaboration Agreement we define which communication channel to use to process message for particular combination of senders and receivers.
Receiver Determination:We use a receiver determination to define one or more receivers for a sender and an outbound interface. The receiver can be a party or a service. We can also specify that the receiver will be determined at runtime from the message contents.
A Receiver determination is the final step in establishing a logical routing for a message. It allows the association of an outbound message interface from a sender to 1 or more receivers. A condition can be defined for each receiver that, based on data values in the message itself, will allow/prevent the forwarding of a message to that receiver. Then R.D specifies for the incoming message from a given sender all the potential receivers of that message.
Simply saying, it defines on or more receivers for a sender and an outbound interface.
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Enter Sender Service.
Select the Outbound message interface and namespace.
Enter Description.
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
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Sara

Hi Sara,
WS->BP
Receiver Determination: Sender IF, Sender NS, Sender BS determine the BP
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Sender Agreement: SOAP sender channel for that Sender IF, Sender NS, Sender BS
Receiver Agreement: not reqired
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Interface Determination: BP IF (abstr), BP IF NS, BP determine Inbound-IF and IF mapping
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Sender Uses Virtual Receiver - Receiver Determination & Sender Agreement

Hello all,
There is a Checkbox with Sender Uses Virtual Receiver while creating Receiver Determination & Sender Agreement.Could anyone tell when one shall use that checkbox & diffrence of using the same in Rx Determination & Sender agreement ? And Lastly What is the significance of using * in Party &
Service in that Sender Uses Virtual Receiver part ?

Hi,
we will use it when we are using B2B scenario......
More details... please check this.............
/people/shabarish.vijayakumar/blog/2008/09/16/virtual-receiver--why-do-you-really-need-it
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/xi/virtual%252breceiver%252buse%252bin%252breceiver%252bdetermination%252bb2b(Idoc%252bto%252b(File%252cIdoc%252bor%252bany%252bother%252bsystem))
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi711/helpdata/en/48/ce2a423a8e5430e10000000a42189b/content.htm
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HTTP response code 500 : Error during Sender Agreement Determination

I am trying a simple file to file scenario and messages are not being received in Integration Server.
Through communication channel monitoring, i have received the below error message.
Error Transmitting the message to
endpoint http://<hostname>:50000/sap/xi/engine?type=entry using
connection File_http://sap.com/xi/XI/System failed, due
to:
com.sap.engine.interfaces.messaging.api.exception.MessagingException:
Received HTTP response code 500 : Error during Sender
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Harish

Hi Harish,
http://<hostname>:50000/sap/xi/engine?type=entry
it should be http://<hostname>:8000/sap/xi/engine?type=entry not 50000 as port It should be your HTTP port...please .make the changes !!
In SXMB_ADM transaction under Integration engine configuration please change the settings to http://<hostname>:8000/sap/xi/engine?type=entry
make sure with your basis team that ur http port is 8000 or 8001 ..as per that make the necessary changes..
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Receiver determination without setting sender

Hi!
My problem: In my scenario I will have many sending business systems which should be all processed in the same way. Usually I have to create a receiver determination and interface determination for each sender. I want to configure a generic routing: If a specific interface arives: Do that and that independent from which business system the message was sended, so I don't have to configure each business system.
In the receiver agreement it is possible to set * as sender. When I try to do this in receiver determination and interface determinition, in the receiver determination no interface determination is found.
Any ideas how to solve this problem?
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Hi!
Thanks for the answers and sorry for my late answer
I have two cases to solve:
IDoc (different types) to mail. With the wildcards (*) and a dynamic receiver configuration in a mail adapter module and a message mapping which gets the neccessary data for that, this works now without any "hard" configuration of sending business systems
The other case is more difficult: I receive a mail and have to determine the receiver dynamically by XPath-Expressions in the Receiver Determination. That is no problem, now nearly everything works without special configuration by using the wildcards. Only the receiver agreement has to be configured "hard" with the receiving business system.
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I'm trying to send an IDOC from R3 to BW thro' XI.
I created 2 business system for R3 & BW.
I created communication channel for receiving BW with IDOC adapter.
I created the receiver determination, interface determination & receiver agreement.
I also used IDX1,IDX2 to configure the port to load to IDOC.
When I send IDOC from R/3, It gets received in XI with the error message
<SAP:Code area="RCVR_DETERMINATION">NO_RECEIVER_CASE_ASYNC</SAP:Code>
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Receiver is already defined in "Receiver Determination".
Even I refreshed CPA Chache many times but getting same error.
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<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
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Sender Agreement - Virtual Receiver - what is it for?

Hi guys!
When u create Sender agreement - what is Virtual receiver good for? What is the difference when u use it and not?
Thank you for answer!
Olian

Hi ! Olian
For more Information about Sender Agreement - Virtual Receiver -
refer these below links .....
the following link has something regarding Virtual receiver, check this one.
virtual receiver???
configure virtual receiver in cross system
If you want to create a receiver-dependent receiver determination, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox in the create dialog.
Check out this Rec Det steps.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Also u can chk out this blog where he hav shown the screen shot.
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/09/09/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-iii-of-iii--config-test
Also, http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/11/21/xi-idoc-to-idoc-tunneling--how-fast-and-easy-can-you-get
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/content.htm
o enter specific values for the receiver, select the checkbox Sender Uses Virtual Receiver
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/da/7a2f41b239a831e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
you want to create a receiver-dependent receiver determination, select the Sender Uses Virtual Receiver checkbox in the create dialog.
Check out this Rec Det steps.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Also u can chk out this blog where he hav shown the screen shot.
/people/james.guanzon/blog/2006/09/09/how-to-support-industry-standards-in-xi-part-iii-of-iii--config-test
Also, http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
A real world scenario
/people/william.li/blog/2006/09/08/how-to-send-any-data-even-binary-through-xi-without-using-the-integration-repository
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b1/f29e7a56e18a439984a3c6630951d2/frameset.htm
Questions are welcome here!!
Also mark helpful answers by rewarding points 
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1 Receiver Agreement, multiple Receiver Determinations

Hi Gurus,
Is this possible?
1 Receiver Agreement, multiple Receiver Determinations
I can't create a new receiver agreement because the object already exists.
I can't see the receiver agreement that was created before in the new receiver determination that i created.

Hi,
yes you can have one receiver agrement for multiple Receiver determinations..
let me explain one example.
Sender System File(BC_FILE) and receiver System SAP ECC.
suppose you have multiple secnerions between File System to SAP ECC,but mutiple scenarions sending data to ECC in the form of ORDERS IDoc, in this case you will crearte N number of receiver determinations but only one receiver agrement.
i hope i got you query correcttly.
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Sender and receiver agreement not cerated

Hi .
I am creating configuration scenario in ID by importing the integration scenario which i created in the IR.
I crated communication channel template also and i added it to the integration scenario in connections.
Query 1?
do i have to create Communication channels also.....even After creating communication channel template (because it is not seen the ID below communication channel )
Query 2 ?
once i transfer this integration scenario from IR to ID and cerate the configuration scenario (sender and receiver agreements are not getting created automatically)peace tell me what is the reason???.
and how can i resolve this...
thanks
shakif

Hi Mohamed,
Query 1?
do i have to create Communication channels also.....even After creating communication channel template
Yes You have to create as it's just a template that u created in IR. But u can use the same for creating CC.
Check this link for what's the Diff. B/w CCT in IR and CC in ID
Re: Communication Channels
Query 2 ?
once i transfer this integration scenario from IR to ID and cerate the configuration scenario
Yes. it will create automatically.
Just check my posting in Wiki for simple File to IDOC scenario might be u missing something
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/xi/fileToIDOC&
and check my reply in this thread
Re: Doubt in transfering integration scenario from IR
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Sachin

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