Receiver and Interface Determination, Sender and Receiver Agreement

Hi Experts,
Could you please tell me, what Receiver Determination, Interface Determination, Sender Agreement and Receiver Agreement we have to use for the below blog.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
Regards
Sara

Hi Sara,
WS->BP
Receiver Determination: Sender IF, Sender NS, Sender BS determine the BP
Interface Determination: Sender IF, Sender NS, Sender BS determine your start msg IF (abstr IF) and IF mapping
Sender Agreement: SOAP sender channel for that Sender IF, Sender NS, Sender BS
Receiver Agreement: not reqired
BP->DB
Receiver Determination: BP IF (abstr), BP IF NS, BP determine the 3rd party BS (DB)
Interface Determination: BP IF (abstr), BP IF NS, BP determine Inbound-IF and IF mapping
Sender Agreement: not reqired
Receiver Agreement: JDBC receiver channel for that Inbound IF, NS and 3rd party BS
BP->File
Receiver Determination: BP IF (abstr), BP IF NS, BP determine the 3rd party BS (File)
Interface Determination: BP IF (abstr), BP IF NS, BP determine Inbound-IF and IF mapping
Sender Agreement: not required
Receiver Agreement: File receiver channel for that Inbound IF, NS and 3rd party BS
Regards,
Udo

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Hi Ajith,
As perception, I understand that you would like to like to split the input file into two as Header and Details. For this requirement, you should need Integration Directory (Configuration) as below:
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I found a strange issue today while configuring two receivers using the Receiver and Interface Determination conditions.
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Hi Sherin,
As there are two receivers Receiver A and Receiver B.You need to create two bussiness components and two communcication channels for two receivers and one Reciver Determination, two Interface Determination,two Receiver Agreement.In Receiver Determination you need to keep the below and condition.
In the above screenshot the two receiver are Receiver B and Receiver C and Field 1 is Key_Value and Field2 is Emp_ID.
If the Key_Value=100 and Emp_ID =22 then the message should go to both the receivers B & C by keeping the following AND condition
If the Key_Value=100 and Emp_ID is not equal to 22 then the message should go only to Receiver B by keeping the following condition
You need not keep any condition in Interface Determination just create 2 Interface determination for two receivers.
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My senario is File to IDOC and mail.
The condition here is the count of Idoc generated has to be sent as a mail and the mail has to be sent only after the IDoc has been generated successfully.
So i am using two receiver services one is for IDOC and other is for mail and in one receiver determination I am refering TWO reciver Service without any condition.
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but in receiver agreement i am not able to refer the Receiver channel for Mail. because the receiver service is still poiting to the Idoc Serveice.
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Hi!
I think the above requirement will also work by using a simple BPM. just try with below steps.
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1. Receive step to receive File from a third party by using File Sender CC.
2. SEND ASYNCH step to send IDOC generated Structure data.
3. Before going to next step please find any constant value which will be coming into IDOC from file that
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    b) In Branch B also you ill be including Control Step but this control Step will says that MAIL
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5) Remaining all other configurations like 2 receiver agreements and every thing aare same.
6) But you need to confgure ALert configuration settings okay.
You can also achive this by using without BPM.::
In ID part:: you need to enter a condition in Receiver Determination with two receiver business systems and that condition will be once the IDOC field like XXXXX(generated_by is equal to some constant like AMAR ) then it needs to active the Mail Business System.
but this would be little but confusion and but u can achive the above requirement by using simple BPM.
Note:: Only diadvantage will be some performance issue will come if goes through BPM but it works
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Interface determination and Receiver Determination

Any one can give the clear idea about Interface determination and Receiver Determination????????

HI Gabriel
Interface Determination
An InterfaceDetermination specifies which interface is to be used for the inbound process of a message.
Interface Determination is to specify which inbound interface of a receiver a message is to be forwarded to. We also specify which interface mapping from the Integration Repository is to be used for processing the message. Here it will know which kind of mapping you are using etc.
 ReceiverDeterminatioin.
A ReceiverDetermintaion defines on or more receivers for a sender and an outbound interface.
Receiver Determination is to specify which receivers a message is to be sent to.
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Please, can anyone explain what is the concept of 'Receiver determination' and 'Interface Determination'?
Thanks,
Harikumar. S

Hi,
>>>>Receiver determination
its about finding the receiver system for particular source system and outbound interface.
Suppose,you want to send data from file->XI->SAP and CRM based on some condition
in this scenario you need to determine whether to send file data to SAP or CRM system,this decision you will do in Receiver determination
in Receiver determination screen you need to provide the following details
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2.Outbound Interface(File Message Interface)
3.condition and receiving system(ex:if some x field value in source payload is 1 go to SAP elseif '0' go to CRM system)
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so to which IDOC you will send file data?This decision you will make in Interface determination(we can it as Inbound Interface determination).if you find the IDOC is CREMAS then how will transfer file structure data to IDOC structure? answer is Message Mapping
From all the above decisions you need to provide following details in Interface determination screen
1.Source System
2.Outbound Interface
3.Receiver System
4.Inbound Interface(IDOC type)
5.Message Mapping(i.e file to IDOC)
Even in Interface determination you can specify the condition to select Inbound Interfaces(ex.IDOCs)
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CO_TXT_OUTBINDING_NOT_FOUND and No receiver agreement found for Sender

Hi,
I had imported an RFC in to two different SWCV. In ID I'm able to see the RFC interface listed under one of the business systems but not in the other. Please help me out with this.
When i tested the scenario i got this error.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- 
- <SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="">
<SAP:Category>XIServer</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="OUTBINDING">CO_TXT_OUTBINDING_NOT_FOUND</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1>-WB_APDRP_DEV_ISU_200</SAP:P1>
<SAP:P2>-WB_APDRP_DEV_CCC,urn:sap-com:document:sap:rfc:functions.ZPI_CONSUMER_PAYMENT_BILL_DATA</SAP:P2>
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>No receiver agreement found for sender -WB_APDRP_DEV_ISU_200 to receiver -WB_APDRP_DEV_CCC,urn:sap-com:document:sap:rfc:functions.ZPI_CONSUMER_PAYMENT_BILL_DATA</SAP:Stack>
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I cleared the cache using SXI_CACHE and http://Server Name:Port/CPACache/refresh?mode=full and still got this error. Can someone explain me about this..
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Hi ,
This error generally Comes when aggrements are Not There in ID.
1. Check if all the Objects in ID are activated.
2. First test your Configuration Objects IN ID Only ( Tools - test Configuration )
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Sender and receiver agreement not cerated

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I am creating configuration scenario in ID by importing the integration scenario which i created in the IR.
I crated communication channel template also and i added it to the integration scenario in connections.
Query 1?
do i have to create Communication channels also.....even After creating communication channel template (because it is not seen the ID below communication channel )
Query 2 ?
once i transfer this integration scenario from IR to ID and cerate the configuration scenario (sender and receiver agreements are not getting created automatically)peace tell me what is the reason???.
and how can i resolve this...
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Hi Mohamed,
Query 1?
do i have to create Communication channels also.....even After creating communication channel template
Yes You have to create as it's just a template that u created in IR. But u can use the same for creating CC.
Check this link for what's the Diff. B/w CCT in IR and CC in ID
Re: Communication Channels
Query 2 ?
once i transfer this integration scenario from IR to ID and cerate the configuration scenario
Yes. it will create automatically.
Just check my posting in Wiki for simple File to IDOC scenario might be u missing something
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/xi/fileToIDOC&
and check my reply in this thread
Re: Doubt in transfering integration scenario from IR
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Receiver determination(or Interface determination) and conditional routing

I have a flat file to flat file scenario. Based on the input file content, I want to route data to the receiver.
My source flat file contains several IDOC details. Assume two fields FIELD1 and FIELD2 in different segments of the IDOC. My requirement is if FIELD1 of an IDOC = "US" and FIELD2 of the same IDOC = "CA", then that IDOC's details needs to be passed to the receiver.
I have implemented the above condition at interface determination.
But the problem is:
Assume there are 3 idocs in the input file.
FIELD1 of IDOC[1] = 'US' and FIELD2 of IDOC[1] = 'GL'
FIELD1 of IDOC[2] = 'UK' and FIELD2 of IDOC[2] = 'EN'
FIELD1 of IDOC[3] = 'BR' and FIELD2 of IDOC[3] = 'CA' .
Now none of the IDOCs in the input satisfy my requirement and hence the message mapping should not be called at all. But in my case its failing because FIELD1 of IDOC[1] and FIELD2 of IDOC[3] together are satisfying the condition and hence the message mapping is called.
But I need to check this condition IDOCwise. Both the conditions to be satisfies in the same IDOC.
I am thinking that contexts are not being taken care.. It just see the whole file together and not IDOCwise.
Can someone help me on the same. Please let me know if more information is required.
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>
Shobha HB wrote:
> I have a flat file to flat file scenario. Based on the input file content, I want to route data to the receiver.
>
> My source flat file contains several IDOC details. Assume two fields FIELD1 and FIELD2 in different segments of the IDOC. My requirement is if FIELD1 of an IDOC = "US" and FIELD2 of the same IDOC = "CA", then that IDOC's details needs to be passed to the receiver.
>
> I have implemented the above condition at interface determination.
>
> But the problem is:
> Assume there are 3 idocs in the input file.
> FIELD1 of IDOC[1] = 'US' and FIELD2 of IDOC[1] = 'GL'
> FIELD1 of IDOC[2] = 'UK' and FIELD2 of IDOC[2] = 'EN'
> FIELD1 of IDOC[3] = 'BR' and FIELD2 of IDOC[3] = 'CA' .
>
> Now none of the IDOCs in the input satisfy my requirement and hence the message mapping should not be called at all. But in my case its failing because FIELD1 of IDOC[1] and FIELD2 of IDOC[3] together are satisfying the condition and hence the message mapping is called.
>
> But I need to check this condition IDOCwise. Both the conditions to be satisfies in the same IDOC.
>
> I am thinking that contexts are not being taken care.. It just see the whole file together and not IDOCwise.
>
> Can someone help me on the same. Please let me know if more information is required.
>
> Thanks,
> Shobha
The ideal solution to your scenario is to redesign the interface as below;
1. Receive the file.
2. Do a 1: N mapping (this should split your message into multiple Messages)
3. On this message you can do the required check. Now only the required field for the particular IDoc will be part of the check and it will not mix with other Idocs.
Will this do? Else please provide more details

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I am having doubts regarding the Interafce Determination and the receiver determination. In pur landscape in our objects, some times i am seeing a Condition is being defined in the Interafce Determination and sometimes am seeing a Condition is being defined in the receiver determination . could you please let me know the differences between the above two.
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Hi Nabhinav,
Condtions in receiver determination - These conditions are evaluated and executed to determine the receivers for this incoming message.
Condtions in Interface determination - These conditions are evaluated and ececuted to determine the Interface mapping to be called in order to map the source message to the target message.
Please take a loot at these links for more details:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm50/helpdata/en/26/5ccd3bb4560f01e10000000a11402f/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi711/helpdata/en/48/ce2a8e3a8e5430e10000000a42189b/content.htm
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Where exactly (In which business cases) we can implement or required Extended Receiver Determination and Interface Determination?
Thanks,
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Hi,
There are only two modes standard and Extended, Enhanced receiver determinatrion is Extended receiver determination only.
Enhanced(Extended) receiver determination -->
Whenever list of receivers is determined dynamically at runtime, using a message mapping then it is called enhanced.
Enhanced Interface Determination--> It is when you want the target interfaces to be defined dynamically based on the multimapping, that is called enhanced interface determination.
Refre SAP help for more detail
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/42/ed364cf8593eebe10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
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Edited by: Sudhir Tiwari on Dec 5, 2008 6:34 AM

Need of creating receiver determination and interface determination

what is the need of creating interface determination where as providing all the details in Receiver determination?

Hi,
The loose coupling between the Interface mapping and receiver determination have provided the compatibility for reusability.
The Interface determination maintained and just linked to receiver determination so you could have multiple receiver determinations with common interface determination or vice-versa.
If you provide all the information in receiver determination then, it would be very dfficult to have the various mappins for multiple receivers maintained in receiver determination.
Interface determination is applied at runtime to all messages to be processed. Thus from security point of view of transaction of data. its preferable.
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Can somebody list me the business cases when we use the extended receiver and enhanced interface determination.In which scenarios we have to use them?
Where we can use these features and whom they can replace?
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have alook at thses URl's also
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/01322a7af25285e10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
:Dynamic file and variable substitution
Similarly Extended Receiver determination is used to determine the receiver at runtime.
Refer my reply:Re: Condition In Receiver Determination Not Working
enhancement in ID
Enhanced Receiver Determination:
You use an enhanced receiver determination to have a mapping program determine the receivers of the message dynamically at runtime. Instead of creating the receivers in the receiver determination manually, you assign a mapping to the receiver determination and this returns a list of receivers at runtime.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/a5f2066340332de10000000a11466f/content.htm
Enhanced (Mapping-Based) Interface Determination
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/42/ed364cf8593eebe10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
enhanced interface determination
/people/robin.schroeder/blog/2006/11/15/using-dynamic-receiver-determination-with-sync-interface
/people/venkataramanan.parameswaran/blog/2006/03/17/illustration-of-enhanced-receiver-determination--sp16
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/a5f2066340332de10000000a11466f/content.htm
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