Co-product Bulk material
Hi all,
what is purpose of to use co-product material & bulk material & how to identify the co-product material & bulk material
Thanks in advance
Hi Ja ck,
1) co product is product which u get during process itself for that u have to create material in semifinished good type u have to tick co product .Costing also u can tick for costing relavency .If u want to add cost of this product to process order then you can keep costin g relavency ..During GRN of header material system will also show u ur co product .and also in BOM u have to make co product as negative sign infront of qty u mentioned .Then only u can able to make GRN of co product ..Ex - In process industry u can use this concept more effectively .All recover solvants ,aquous layer 7 other product u can mentioned as co product .
2) Bulk material also use in process industry .Ex -water use in process will not part of of costing .so this u can use this as bulk material .Bulk material will not take in part in MRP . Also u can backflush this material .
any further clarification plse come back
Regards
SANIL
Similar Messages
-
Use of Sales BOM to force ATP against Bulk Material?
Background:
Our business was recently acquired, and we have migrated to the parent company's R/3 system. In our previous MRP system (R/2), we planned, produced, and shipped a single bulk Material ID in Trucks, Rail Cars, Flexi-Bags, and Iso-Tainers. In the new system, specific Material IDs are now required for each of these modes. However, we do not store the inventory in these modes, nor do we wish to plan at this detailed level.
Considered So Far:
Initial suggestion was to use A.T.O. to look through a BOM and automatically create production orders for each customer order. However, this seems to add additional complexity that we do not really need, and makes changing order dates more challenging (have to move both the order and the accompanying Prod. Order).
Desired Outcome:
Order is entered and priced based upon the mode-specific Material ID, but inventory is relieved from the Bulk material. In our previous R/2 system, there was a field on the material master called "Std.Prod." which stood for Standard Product Link. We used it for synonymous products where we produced and inventoried under one name, but sold under several different names. The customer materials were set up as type SALE and referenced the inventoried material, set as type FINI, in this Std. Prod. field. Thus, at the header level, the user saw the SALE material, but for planning and at the batch level, the system showed the FINI.
Options?
I am told that, due to the amount of custom coding and user exits surrounding outputs and interfaces to EDI and other external systems, the use of Material Determination would require too much testing and potentially too much development work. But, is it the best / correct solution to the problem? Because right now, I don't have the ability to perform ATP against the inventoried Material, so nothing confirms. Would the use of a 1 to 1 Sales BOM offer anything different?
Many Thanks in Advance,
J.P.Hello JP
Material Determination (MD) works with Consignment orders, only you need to assign a MD procedure to the requisite sales document type in config ( TO code OV14). Product substitution, which is a specialized form of MD, makes use of special item cats like TAX and TAPS or TAPA and TAN for main and substitute items respectively, but you can always make copies of them and use them with consignment orders also in conjunction with item category usages like PSHP. PSEL, PSA1 and PSA2. There could be resultant issues, but unless you test you won't know them all.
Your second question about 'Sale would go against the finished good (Truck / Rail material) while the production costs go against the Bulk', brought a new realization in me. You are ordering, pricing and delivering Truck or Rail materials, but those requirements have to be converted to Production orders for bulk material, so from a Sales and Distribution (SD) point of view you don't need anything extra, therefore work with you Production Planning (PP) consultant to convert the requirements at PP end?? May be without resorting to MD or BOMs in Sales, you can work with your PP consultant and with standard config or custom development, you may realize your desired outcome.
Also as long as cost is maintained in the sales Material (Truck for example) with due regard to the additional costs in converting Bulk to truck, you should be fine. Follow the example below:
Standard cost of 1 ton , say X, is stored in Bulk Material master.
Now if there is no additional cost and you just load the bulk material into a truck and if a Truck is 10 ton, then Truck material would have 10X in its material master for cost.
But if there is some other material and/or labor involved in converting bulk to Truck and their cost is y, then you will have (10x+y) in your truck material. Also it is worthwhile to capture the additional cost in the Production/Assembly order via components and operations.
Your problem is not insurmountable, but you need to assemble a team of SD. PP, MM and CO experts to design an integrated solution for you. -
Setting for no dependent reqmt should generate for bulk material
Hello guys,
I know that for bulk materials system doesn't create any dependent reqmt. In other words system doesn't consider these materials in planning run.But for information purpose you can see the planned order no for bulk material in production order of above material.
My question is where we maintain the settings for bulk material that system shouldn't create dependent requirements for them?Hi,
As u know u can define Bulk material at MRP view of Material Master.
Please check with "Excl Bulk material" check box under the BOM Explosion tab at OPPQ for your Plant.
Pradeep -
Batch at semi finish level or bulk material
My client is manufacturing toothpaste, the scenario is, they have 5 products with multiple change overs they manufacture different batches of tooth paste than store them in a storage tank. the batch management could be difficult as the are not storing the different batches seperately they are storing it in a same storage tank and then they pack it. they have strict standards to be followed and no bom change occure during manufacturing.
My questions are,
1. if i use batch on semifinish level obviously it can not bifercate them as the are storing it on an storage tank, could i treet semi finish as bulk material with out any batch number?
2. they are asking for tracebility as welll how this could be possible when the are mixing it by them self in a storage tank?
Kindly reply with ideas also points are guranted...........
Regards Syed Noor ul Haqueclose the thread
-
ME21N : account assignment mandatory for bulk material
Dear guru.
For a raw material used as bulk in production with material type ROH and quantity/value updating I need that when I create purchase order the system send an error message that account assignment is mandatory.
I know that for an NLAG or UNBW material type the system send this message.
For internal reason I need to maintain material type ROH with quantity/value updating , do you know a solution , any exit , in order to solve my problem ?
Thanks for you help.CONS SAP wrote:
Dear
> I need that this component in the bill of material must be managed with position type L and I donu2019t want to do consumption movements.
> I have verified that I can create a purchase order with account assignment for this material , I need only that the system send a message for these bulk materials.
> Thanks.
position type L means it is a inventory managed material.
why do want the material to be inventory managed and at the same time dont want to record consumption movements? -
Bulk Material behaviour in alternate plants
Hi,
how bulk material concept behaves with planning and procurement in different plants with consumption based (VB) in MTO/MTS scenario.what are the conditions to be maintained with Sp procurement key with drawal from alternate plant and stock transfer from alternate plant for bulk materials.
regards
kishoreHi Kishor,
Bulk material is always consumption based because it is not planned during MRP and not related to costing also. Bulk materials are those which are low cost.
If you are having more than one plants and components required at one plant for finish product is either produced as a finish product in other plant or it is available as a unrestricted stock then you can use special propcurement key for that component.
For production at alternate plant set special procurement key. In BOM assign that component and design key in customisation that u enter plant where it is being produced. Again create a BOM for finish product.
First take MRP run where it is used as a component so that it will create dependent requirement for another plant.Then take MRP run where it is as finish product so that planned order will be produced.
Same as for stock transfer use another key. You have to decide first then assign key.
I think it will help you. Reward pts.
If any problem ask.
Regard,
Suhas -
Hello,
I was wondering if there was a way on SAP to get a list of all materials that are classified as bulk?Hi,
If by classified as bulk you mean material master field in MRP2 called "Bulk material" then it is very easy to check directly in MARC table, basing the search on field MARC-SCHGT.
Of course this will show you the materials that are always bulk. But there is also an option to mark a single BOM item as bulk (then it is in table STPO-SCHGT). In this case material can be bulk in one product and not bulk in the other (or handled differently in different BOM items for same product).
Anyway - using these 2 fields in some queries should give you full picture.
BR,
Tomek -
Valuation area not yet productive with material ledger
While doing goods receipt at MB1C,i got the below error:
The description of the error is given below
Valuation area XXX2 not yet productive with material ledger
Message no. C+020
Diagnosis
The material ledger has been activated for the valuation area but material data has not yet been converted in this valuation area.
Procedure for System Administration
If you want to work with the material ledger, choose Accounting -> Controlling -> Actual Costing/Material Ledger -> Utilities -> Production Startup.
There you can convert the data for the material ledger by following the instructions in the online documentation.
Note
Setting the material ledger to productive cannot be undone.
See also:
Actual Costing/Material Ledger in the SAP Library.
The implementation guide for Actual Costing/Material Ledger.
Can you kindly suggest me how to fix this error.
Regards
SaberaHi Sabera,
The Valuation Area is not activated for your material ledger. Go to SAP Access>>Accounting>>Controlling>>product cost controlling>>Actual Costing>>environment>>Production Start up>>Set Valuation area as productive.
If you already activated Valution area in to Productive Statge.
Then go to T.Code OMX1 and for your valuation area XXX2 tick the ML activation box.
the error wont come
regards
srikanth -
Is 543 movement possible for bulk material in subcontracting process.
Dear All,
I created a sub contracting PO, with the bulk material indicator being ticked in MRP 2 view for the parent material.
Now at the time of Making GRN, i can not see the 543 movement for parent item (which is sent to vendor for processing via 541 movement).
Please help. Is this a standard behaviour of the system. ??
Thanking you in anticipation.
Regards,
Chetan.Dear All,
I created a sub contracting PO, with the bulk material indicator being ticked in MRP 2 view for the parent material.
Now at the time of Making GRN, i can not see the 543 movement for parent item (which is sent to vendor for processing via 541 movement).
Please help. Is this a standard behaviour of the system. ??
Thanking you in anticipation.
Regards,
Chetan. -
Hide Back Flush Indicator and Bulk Material Indicator in PM order
Hi Experts
Can any one help me, how to hide or display Back Flush and Bulk Material Indicator in PM order Components tab. Can we customize this or we need to do the modification in standard program.
Thanks is advance
Regards
N.SaidasanTry to hide it my using transaction variant tcode SHD0
If it dosent work then use
User exit
IWO10009 Maintenance order: Customer check for "Saving"
PPCO0023 (check changes to order components)
BADI
IWO1_ORDER_BADI
This will solve your problem -
Show batch clasification char val of the production order material in COOIS
I want to display a characteristic value entered in the material batch classification of the production order material in COOIS report.
Ex: I maintain material stock code in material batch classification. Within the same material there can be multiple stock codes which is similar to dye lot number. I created production order for that material. I want to display that batch classification characteristic of the material in a separate column when display production orders of that martial in COOIS.Dear,
Have you use the process batch? The classification characteristics of each process batch created for a production order are compared with the actual configuration characteristics.
If different characteristics are used for the classification, that is, if characteristics do not exist in the configuration, these characteristics are flagged as green by default in the detailed display.
Call interface:
An interface (parameter of the function module) can be used to call function module MILL_PC1_COMP_LIST outside C003, C011N from COOIS.
Or Call Transaction SE38 report PPIOA000 execute it.
You can refer the OSS note 519649 for it.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Derivation rule for Product from Material Group
Dear All,
Is it possible derive product from Material Group. The scenario is as below.
We executed KE30 report (Classic Drill down) for Product, the we are able to see the profitability for different products, when we click on the list button (Find button) againist the product at the bottom we found not assigned, we selected that and we found there are some un assigned amounts (without product). when we see the line items for the same the line items are coming with out product ( product field is emply)
Another observation is we created profitability assessment cycle (KEU5) in which cost center is the sender and material group is the receiver. when we run this cycle system is not distibuting the costs to the products, in the sender and receiver its executed with zero values.
In derivation rule KEDR we gave the logic to derive product from material group.
please guide the way which we are following is correct or not. can we derive product from material group.
Thanks,
Siva Reddy.SHi
Yes you can derive using "Derivation" method in KEDR and maintain a mapping of Mat Grp to Product... But that is not the right way
You need to find out why some lines are posted w/o products.. They can be genuine cases....
Also for assessment, either specify the Product as receiver or run KE28 Top Down Dist in order to allocate values from Mat group to Products..... Deriving Product from Mat group does not seem to be the nice way
br, Ajay M -
How to run MRP for Bulk Material without using LTP
Hi, how can I run MRP for BULK material without using LTP.
Thanks in advance
BKHi,
Use trasnsaction code OPPQ and goto BOM Explosion and selection depends on
Field selected
No dependent requirements are created for informational purposes for bulk material items in the plant selected. This can improve system performance.
Field not selected
Dependent requirements are created for bulk material items in the plant selected. These dependent requirements are displayed in the planned order for informational purposes only. They are not considered in the net requirements calculation; that is, they are not included in material requirements planning (MRP) and are not displayed in the stock/requirements list
Reg,
Deepak.
Edited by: deepak k b on Nov 11, 2008 6:56 AM -
PRODUCTION order material configuration info
HI,
any one please let me know how can i get production order material configuration information.from which table we can get this info or is there any function module
to get this info.
Thanks & reagrds..
Anil.Tcheck this include Program , u will find out list of FMS
<b>LCOOCCUXX</b>
regards
prabhu -
Information message in BDC BOM for bulk material
Hello,
I am worrking on the BDC with "CS01" ( BOM creation ). If the componant is bulk material the system will give the Information messsage, which stops the BOM creation.
I tried to code an extra "Enter" if the material is Bulk material but it is not working.
Please suggest.
Thanks,
Kunal.this regd a configuration error u need to take help from functional persons.
Madhavi
Maybe you are looking for
-
My battery has been acting ridiculous on my phone. It shuts down at random percentages ranging from 60% down. I'll be using it with plenty of battery life left on the meter then I get the ring of death and it'll show a dead battery icon wanting charg
-
Need instructions on how to download photos and videos from my Samsung cell to my iPhoto
Need instruction for how to import photos and videos from my Samsung cell phone to iPhoto. Thx
-
I have the wifi gray out issue and have tried all the steps!
This is a hardware issue and Apple SHOULD replace the phone even if out of warranty!!!!!!!! This is the second phone that has done this and it is obviously an issue according to everyone else's post. Apple find a solution for the problem before you
-
IPad volume doesn't work with 3rd party apps & volume slider gone.
After even a Slide to Power Off, I'll reboot the iPad and I'll launch, say, The Daily Show app. What I encounter is that there is no volume. The physical volume switch has no affect. The volume slider in the video player has been replaced by the word
-
I have a project that I have been working on for a few years now that was shot on the RED. I currently use a 8TB dedicated exteranl hard drive to edit off of and have been using this hard drive for about a year and a half with no troubles. Just this