Collections of Fonts in Mail...

Hi All;
I'm trying to organize some of the collections...
I can't seem to get a font to show up in recently used, no matter where or how I'm using fonts.
I notice when I go to TEXTEDIT and use a font and save it, it automatically puts it into my favorites. That's fine and all, and I guess will do the job, but my concern is how to NOT have to resort to using another program to be able to get to save a font with SIZE AND COLOR modifications into my favorites.
I've poked and Googled for about two hours now and somehow am still coming up short?
Thanks all.
~jess.

OK Kathryn, since the silence re your problem was deafening, you had to figure this out on your own and did so. Posting it here in the event that someone else is as "duh" as you are and unable to find the solution and which was...
Font Typeface list still empty, but by adding the format bar (not there before - you were using the font window to look for and select alternate typefaces/fonts) you can now do anything you want re choice of font, size and colour. Can't believe that someone did not suggest this to you as a possible solution. Oh well... what's the old saying? If you want something done properly - do it (or in this case) figure it out yourself. Nice chatting with you, now call the men in the white jackets please.

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My posts were very badly written because of fever, sorry. However, I can't agree with your simple evaluation of my competence to offer an alternative test and fix, or competence in general. Here's a summary of my posts.
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first portion was my text, and I see no HTML tags to define font. After that comes my signature, which is heavily formatted and contains default font, so my recipients see it exactly how I want.
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MIME-encoded mail clients will usually send both plain text (or base64-encoded plain text) or rich text (or probably base64-encoded rich text, but I haven't seen that) and also as HTML, and an arbitrary mail client might display the text or might display the HTML. And then there's whether the HTML will be rendered the same, and that's far from certain.
HTML moved various parts of the viewing and rendering details from the perview of the provider or the presenter or author along to the viewer. This is a large shift from what went before, and from what the expectations of the producers were. Fonts were one of those details that moved to the client, too. Not all fonts exist everywhere, and font fallback and font overrides are common. I regularly override the sizes of some messages, and various clients allow that and allow overriding the font choice for one that's more readable. (This change gets into trusting the HTML reader to configure their client for what they prefer, and sometimes for what they can see and read.)
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ad for your case, I've been able to set the sending font — brute-force ⌘A in the text area — by changing the font within the compose window. But whether an arbitrary mail client can or will honor that is an open question.
If you really need to set font or page layout or related formatting within a document, then create and attach and send the message as PDF. This is what PDF and Postscript and similar formats are intended to do; to provide the classic producer-defined document viewing. Text will render more or less the same, though you can encounter oddities around line wrapping and line endings and related, and particularly with some mail servers and mail gateways.
If not attaching a PDF or such, then you're going to have to live within whatever your mail client and the receiver's mail client happen to implement. That's the way mail (doesn't) work in a heterogeneous network.

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