Color disparity between Bridge & Photoshop??

I am having a terrible time with a color disparity between my images when viewed in Bridge vs Photoshop. I wouldn't be worried if Photoshop was the accurate image, but it isn't. These images look great in Bridge, but now when I open them into CS4 they all have a pink tinge that wasn't there when they were edited only two days ago. I can't figure out what happened? Looking at both image versions side-by-side on the same iMac screen shows a big disparity. Anyone have ideas? I am a Photographer that used CS3 happily on a PC for years...now switched to iMac 27" with PS4 and having lots of trouble!
Thanks for any suggestions....

If Photoshop Ps is displaying a known good file bad, then you either are confusing Ps as to the Source Profile or you have a bad monitor profile.
I like to recommend:
Ps> Edit> Color Settings: North American Prepress 2 ( for now to fully engage the Color Management Policies)
If that doesn't work to get you back on track, then I would look at the Monitor Profile, the file opening dialogues (profile mismatch, missing profile choices you are making), and/or bad application or OS preferences.
Try testing with a known good file like the PDI_Target_AdobeRGB.jpg do a Google search for the download (color only looks bad in Photoshop has been covered here many times before).
There is a huge difference between Assign/Assume Profle and Convert to Profile...

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I need to synchronize color space between Bridge and PSCS3

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I am having the same issue. It is frustrating because I am following a Lynda.com training video that talks about PS CS3 and Bridge basics. Included in that video is how to synchronize color between these two applications. Nowhere does it say that one needs to own a >$1000 full suite to be able to do this. Deke directs the viewer to the Edit menu of Bridge where you are supposed to enter the "creative suite color settings" menu. No such menu exists on my "el cheapo" version of Bridge CS3.

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Yes, your setup makes sense, but the fact you're asking implies that you don't know much about colormanagement. Thus although this part of your workflow makes sense, it might well be that you're making error in the printing process for example. Get yourself a copy of the 'Real world colormanagement' by Bruce Fraser, to teach yourself all about it. Furthermore, when working in ProPhoto RGB, I'd suggest working in 16-bit instead of 8-bit, to reduce possible banding in color gradients.
By export RAW directly to Photoshop, I believe that you mean opening the RAW-file in Camera RAW? No, there is no way of doing that directly, though Aperture does have an export master option, allowing you to place a copy of the original RAW-file anywhere on your hard drive.

Linkage between Bridge and AE

When I choose 'browse presets' in AE CS4, nothing happens - ie Bridge does not open no matter how long i wait. I can seperately launch Bridge, but of course that does not enable me to "double click apply" effects/presets in my composition.
Many thanks in advance

Mmh, Adobe Camera RAW is a component shared between Bridge, Photoshop and other programs. Since the initial release of CS4 it has been updated several times, so indeed an update to one of the programs may have affected Bridge and AE in a wierd way. I'm afraid I can't offer any advise beyond that, as most likely you would have to re-install everything, anyway, to make this work again. As a minor glimpse of hope it may be worthwile to check Bridge's file associations in its prefs as well as check the status of Camera RAW by accessing its options. Maybe it just needs to be reset in some way to produce correct configuration data and not crash.
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Yeah - don't do that!
I would recommend you check with the Photoshop support area for more details...
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Color variations between AI CS2 and Photoshop

I'm new here and really don't know technical terms for what I'm trying to explain, so please forgive the gibberish. I have an Illustrator CS2 file that someone is printing for me using Photoshop. When he opens the file the colors I selected in Illustrator all change slightly and look much duller when printed.
Is there a way to maintain color accuracy between the two applications? If so, how would I go about changing the colors in my existing artwork? Thank you!

Thank you for all your feedback.
Here are the scopes. All I'm doing to get the change is sending it to AE. No changes elsewhere. Just that simple send to AE and it starts playing with the colours.
I have also noticed that when I reload my projects a lot of the time I have to re-render the entire film. I did update the Adobe software when it became available.

Color Sync Between iPhoto and Photoshop

iPhoto's retouching tool does a good job for retouching small marks in a photo, but there are times when Photoshop is needed to do rechouching work.
While making a slideshow I noticed a colorshift when moving an image from iPhoto to Photoshop and then back into the iPhoto. To be more specific there is a loss of saturation as if the color space between the to programs are not sycncronized or embedded profiles are changed when an image moves between the two. The images are five mega pixle jpgs.
This issues is made more complicated because of color differences between iPhoto's edit window and the slideshow it's self while it is playing.
Apparently I'm missing something in using these to programs together.
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Thanks for your help. I did change the value, but have not imported any new pictures yet into iphoto. I did figure out how to get Photoshop to not color shift on save. However I'm not sure this method is a good thing, since the only way to prevent the color shift on saves, is from the photoshop save as dialog box. you must turn off embed color profile. when I do this, there is no longer a color shift. however the color profile is no longer embeded in the picture. are there any negatives for doing it this way?

Color Managment between Photoshop and Illustrator

Hi All,
Can anyone give me some tips of how to do the color managment in both Photoshop and Illustrator? I'm using Ai CS3 and PS CS3, although I have using CMYK mode in both software and having them in same Color profile setting, when using Ai to open a PS file the color is still different from what I see in PS. I would like to know is it possible to make it looks the same?
Thanks

Imo, you should establish a rather strict
color management strategy (examples):
1. Define in Photoshop:
RGB: AdobeRGB(98)
CMYK: ISOCoated
Gray: Black Ink ISO Coated (Custom profile)
Spot: Black Ink ISO Coated
2. Distribute this profile set by Bridge
3. Convert RGB images in Photoshop to CMYK
4. Define Color space in Illustrator as CMYK
5. Open the Photoshop file or the Tiff file in
Illustrator: here it looks as expected.
Problems: the CMYK file contains an ICC-profile
which is different to the global CMYK-definition.
Now it depends on the CMS strategies, and that's
the point where I'm usually giving up.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

LaserJet Output Changes between Illustrator & Photoshop (CS2)

Win XP on Dell PC, Adobe CS2 + Bridge, Huey Pro 1.5.0 color management, HP Color LaserJet 3800 Postscript Printer, printing a hi-res CMYK TIF.
1. How can I synchronize the color output of a TIF file between Illustrator & Photoshop.
2. And what is causing this variance?
3. Also, Huey Pro is new on my system. Would it be my best option to color proof this image onscreen for the closest representation for final output (by digital printing press)?
When I print this TIF file directly from Photoshop CS2 = darker/richer CMYK output.
When I print a layout in Illustrator CS2 with this exact same TIF linked into the layout = different/lighter CMYK output on the same PS printer.
My system is color managed by Huey Pro & my educated guess would be that Huey is not causing the differences in output. Right?
Is there something in Bridge I should check?
This has been a longterm problem I've been needing to resolve...

What exactly do you want to do with both the apps?
Since the exchange of files from AI to PS is based on PDF, I wouldn't expect problems. The only question is, if Photoshop CS2 will be able to read PDF 1.5, since that's the format AI CS6 embeds in its files. If it doesn't work, you could still save a PDF from AI and make it any other PDF version.
Illustrator can read lower version PSD.
Copy-Paste might be a problem. I can't experiment, since I don't have that PS version any more.

Color management issue from Photoshop Acrobat

I'm having an issue that I believe has been isolated to Acrobat X related to Color Management, but was referred to this Photoshop forum because more experts in color management tend to read here. My thread in the Acrobat forum with several updates on tests is here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4646650#4646650
The short version is that any RGB image I create in any app (including Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign, a non-Adobe app with Word, and Acrobat's own PDF from Screen Capture feature) displays in both Acrobat X and Adobe Reader with dull colors, very similar (if not identical) to how an RGB file with full intensity colors (i.e. R255 or G255) looks when converted to CMYK.
I've tried numerous settings in the Color Management system, and have Synchronized my Color Settings via Bridge across all Adobe CS6 apps. I've tried synchronizing to both the default North American General Purpose 2, and the (sometimes suggested) Monitor Color, using a calibrated profile for my Dell display from OS X's built-in tool. Have also tried various settings of Preserving Embedded Profiles, ignoring them, Assigning a new Color Profile to a document, turning off color management completely, etc. No change in result.
I have a multi-monitor setup (3 external Dell displays connected to a Macbook Pro, 2 of them via USB video devices), but I've also tried making each display (including the laptop's built-in display) my Primary monitor and can see the color shift on each one, so it doesn't appear to be a calibration issue.
This issue is on my Mac at the office. I have a similar setup at home (albeit a MacPro 1,1 vs. a laptop) but with the same Dell monitors and CS6 software installation, and I can take the same document (whether it's InDesign, Illustrator, or Photoshop), make a PDF of it, and it displays with 100% accurate colors when viewed in Acrobat X.
In addition to the tests mentioned in my original thread, I've also tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Acrobat X and Adobe Reader.
I believe the issue is related to Acrobat, as I can repeat the issue with no other apps than Acrobat in the workflow: if I display a full-intensity RGB image on screen, then use Acrobat X to create a PDF from Screen Capture, the resulting PDF immediately shifts to the dull colors.
Have also thoroughly checked through Acrobat's preferences, as it seems almost as if there's a setting somewhere along the lines of "View all PDFs in CMYK color gamut", but no such setting exists. I did a complete uninstall of Acrobat X as well, which I imagine would also dump its Preferences, so it would be a clean reinstall.
Another interesting note: Apple's Preview app seems to display the PDF with accurate RGB colors, so I know the PDF actually has the correct color definitions intact. But the same PDF opened in Acrobat X or Reader side-by-side displays the dull colors.
Any thoughts?
-R

i wasn't able to follow your lengthy post, and the color management chain is too complicated (for me) to address here other to say Acrobat reads tagged elements and converts their colors to Monitor RGB (so you must have stripped the profiles in the PDF, and the Acrobat CMS is applying or passing through the wrong profile)
further, if you don't want to rely on profiles, your safest bet (for screen viewing) is to CONVERT everything to sRGB (but i would still include the profile in case someone wants to display or print the document 'accurately'
Here is a look at a several critical color setting in Export to Acrobat that control: Downsampling, Compression, Color Conversions, Destination, and Tagging (click on image for blowup):
PS:
these panels were grabbed from an InDesign Export PDF process, but Photoshop should have similar options somewhere

Why are the colors in Illustrator and Photoshop so off?

Hi,
Let me just start off by saying I have the color mode in both Illustrator and Photoshop set to RGB. Yet, there is a noticeable color difference between a picture on the internet and when I paste it in for example Photoshop.
Picture from the internet:
Picture when pasted in Photoshop:
It's the same thing in Illustrator. And this is not just with pictures by the way, it's affects all the colors I use, which is a major pain in the rear.
Anyone know a fix?

Well, my suggestion in post #13, was to help me find out what the cause of your problem is. It doesn’t solve your problem permanently but temporarily, only for the current session of Photoshop or Illustrator by making these programs show your image without applying any color management conversions. So, you have to do this every time you open such files in these programs.
If you want to understand what is going on and be in control, you have to go through a lot of walls of text unfortunately .
I’ll try to explain it roughly but if you don’t understand it you need to read more about color management.
You are using Safari and this is how its color management works:
https://developer.apple.com/library/safari/technotes/tn2220/_index.html
on that page it says:
"Important: For images that are not tagged with a color profile, their color values will be displayed on the screen by Safari with no optimization or adjustment for differences between devices in how they render colors. This may result in the colors not being displayed as originally intended"
This made me think that like most images on the web, the image you are using doesn’t have a color profile. In that case, assuming a certain scenario based on your input, the reason it is displayed differently from Photoshop and Illustrator is because you have a color profile of your monitor used by your system that is different than the color space used for the display of the image. By default RGB Images without a color profile are displayed using the color space set for the working space in the Color Settings of Photoshop and Illustrator. Also by default this color space is sRGB. If your monitor was also with an sRGB profile assigned in the system, which is the case with all monitors that come without a color profile provided from the manufacturer, you should have not experienced this problem because Photoshop and Illustrator will see that the color space you want to display your image is sRGB and your monitor is sRGB, and there will be no color conversions because both color spaces, source and destination are the same. Unless someone else has setup your system ,color management, and installed a monitor profile, my guess is that the manufacturer of your monitor has provided a color profile installed in your system that is not sRGB.
When you choose View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB, this in effect turns off the color management because you are displaying the image in the same color space as the one assigned to your monitor.
If you want to turn off the color management permanently which will be valid only when displaying images in the sRGB color space, you can assign the sRGB color profile to your monitor. This will show the images on your monitor with the same colors as those displayed without color management in the other applications and choosing View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB will make no difference.
Non color managed programs can display the color only in the way your monitor displays it. Color managed programs simulate other outputs on your monitor. The only way to match the display in color managed and non color managed software is to turn off the color managed software. This will display the same color values with the same color in all programs on your monitor.
The purpose of the color management is to allow the viewer see the colors as intended (the way the creator sees them when creating the image). Different devices and media output the same color values differently resulting in different color. Therefore, when the viewer uses different device or media the colors if not color managed properly will look different or not as close as possible.
When you turn off the color management, or even when it is on but not properly applied, which I suspect is the case in your situation, you can’t be sure that the colors you see are as intended. In other words, you can’t tell if an image is supposed to look the way you see it, and you can’t create images providing means that will allow others to see them the way you see them.
So, for whatever reasons you want to make colors look the same in all your programs, have in mind that this is valid only on the current state of your monitor, and this also cuts the possibility to see and send to others colors as intended.

Color Management Module In Photoshop

Question: A color management module is the software that defines the mathematical manipulations by which color conversions are made?

Thanks for your quick reply.
From: ronzie99 <[email protected]>
To: IronEyesWally <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:09 PM
Subject: Color Management Module In Photoshop
Re: Color Management Module In Photoshop created by ronzie99 in Photoshop Elements - View the full discussion
There are different types of icc\icm profiles used in color management.
First is the color workspace. PSE is by default set to create files in the color space embedded in the image opened and if not then the default color space of your choosing. The type of color space describes the gamut limitations of that color space.
Next are device specific color profiles. These are the display and printer profiles but can also exist for input devices. These profiles serve as tables to fit the measured characteristicsof the device to the color space requireed. For output devices there are Rendering Intents that can be chosen to determine how the limitations of a device can be best interpolated to fit the color space of an image into the limitations of the device for best appearance.
A practical way to think of a display to output workflow think of the color space situated between the displayed image and the output device with the color space in the middle defining limitations as a standard. The devices profiles are then measured against the standard color profile to create corrections or translation table so they react appropropriately to present the image on the display for the output device target profile in an attempt to get a 'what you see is what you get' envirionment for the specific devices used.
You need to create via calibration either by you (better) or insttall from the manufacturer a profile for the display. This matches your display device to the 'standard' profile. If you go to print then you'll need to install a printer profile (which varies by ink and paper type) either OEM or from paper suppliers or created by a measuring device you can purchase if you go 'rogue' regrding non-OEM inks and papers.
PSE does not have a soft-proof mode built in like Photoshop. It does have a setup, though, where it will let you assign every time you print an output profile that you select if you want PSE to directly manage the printer for tonality and color, in which case in the printer driver itself you disable color management only leaving the driver to descrive the image quality and surface type of the paer chosen and choosing none or leaving icm unchecked in the printer driver. The profile is selected in the PSE printer driver under advanced.
Soft proof mode is where the display translation is further manipulated to approximate the printer output. This can happen because you have calibrated your monitor to a standard and a printer tothat same standard. I have an add-on for PSE 10 called Elements + that in addition to lots of filters and effects adds some soft-proofing capability and curve color level adjustments to PSE. http://www.simplephotoshop.com/elementsplus/index.htm
In practical terms that is the function of color management.
BTW: The defacto color space for the Internet web browsers is sRGB. Use this when correcting color for web distribution.
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Spot Color mismatches between EPS and PDF files

Recently I created a file in Illustrator CS6 with several Pantone color swatches. I used the CMYK color mode set to the Coated GRACoL 2006 color space. I saved the file as an EPS and we printed our test samples on our large format printer. After reviewing the print I saw the colors were off. The grey color showed up green.I then opened up the exact same EPS file and simply saved it as a PDF. We ran the PDF on the same printer, using the same material and profile and the color was completely different. This time the grey colors came out grey (correctly). We tested this twice and came up witht he same color differences between the EPS files and the PDF files. Why would an Illustrator file produce 2 different colors if saved as a PDF versus an EPS?
Also, I sent these files to another prepress person in our company and he printed them on our proofing printer. The EPS printed slightly differently than the PDF. He then opened the PDF file in Acrobat and saved it out of Acrobat as an EPS. After this, he printed the new EPS file created from Acrobat and it printed the exact same as the PDF file (correctly).
This leads me to believe that the problem is in the way Illustrator saves EPS files. Has anyone else seen this problem?
Thanks for any and all help with this very perplexing issue.

I will speak from CS3.
The current PDF format if 1.7 exported out of Photoshop supports vector elements as independent objects, but you can't edit them correctly out of Acrobat because Photoshop reads the data as a flat file and drops the vector data. Basically the workflow is not finished being developed. Also, Transparency is broken within the PDF file format at this time. It will support Spots though correctly.
PSD and TIF support Transparency and Spots, but vector objects are rasterized due Acrobat reading the flat version of the file.
When Photoshop wrote its own PDF format and not the corporate PDF flavor that we now have, PDF's would support Transparency correctly.
I would assume that Transparency and vector objects would be addressed in the next release, but that is to be seen.
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Hi,
I recently noticed a color shift between in the image when going from the library to the develop module. Yes, I know this is mentioned in the FAQ, but I did not find the solutions given there to be satisfactory.
Let me explain what happens: I have taken Photos with my Canon EOS 300D, in Jpeg mode with Color Space in the Camera set to AdobeRGB. The photos I am talking about were taken with Tungsten light with auto white balance and have a distinct orange color cast. I use Windows XP and view my Photos on a LCD Display calibrated with the Pantone Huey system. The Lightroom Library Module and Photoshop CS2 both display the original image almost identically (there are no changes applied inside Lightroom or Photoshop, I view the original image in both applications). Photoshop is set to use the Adobe RGB Color space as its working Color space, Softproofing is switched off. However, when I switch to the Develop Module, the colors (especially the orange hues) shift very noticably toward pink. I can only assume that the Colorspace conversion or maybe some implicit soft proof used differs between the modules. So, to restate the problem: If I switch back and forth between Library and Develop, without changing anything and in 1:1 view to avoid errors introduced by different zooming methods, the colors shift quite drastically back and forth.
I have to say that this is really quite annoying. The whole point for me to use the develop module is to use it to make adjustments to the colors, and for this to work properly I have to see the same colors in both modules and in Photoshop. There is no point in correcting a pink color cast away in Develop that is not even there in either the library module or Photoshop (and that would then have a stronger orange tint because I tried to counter the pink tint in develop).
So this leads me to the final question: Is it possible to tell Develop to use the exact same color settings as the Library Module? Or is there another way to compensate for the color shift?
I hope I was clear in what happens and what I tried to do. If it helps I can gladly provide a sample photograph that clearly illustrates the point.
Thank you in advance for your help,
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Thanks for your comments, Don and Fred. I hope that this issue will be worked on soon.
Fred, I have set the Preview Quality to High, but it doesn't seem to make any differences concerning the color shift. I have investigated this matter further by now and made the following observations:
*The color shift is a lot less noticable on my laptop (the laptop screen is also color profiled). On my laptop the change is more of a subtle shift in contrast than in color. This might be caused by the smaller color gammut of my laptop display though.
*I have uploaded a testimage so that others can check if this shift occurs at their workstations too - after all, it might be a misconfiguration of my color management software, though I doubt that (because Adobe already states that library and develop render different previews). I would be interested if the color shift I describe is noticable at other workstations too. The link to the testimage: http://www.danyx.com/colorshift.jpg (permission to use the image to test the color reproduction is of course granted hereby).
Thanks for your help, I hope Adobe will listen soon,
Daniel

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