Colour calibration

Dear all,
I am a keen photographer and Aperture user, although it is a hobby and i do not make an income from photography (yet...)
As i discover more about colour management, the more concerned i become about my eye judgement and use of os x colour calibration software. I feel it is time to get serious and splash out for a propper colour calibrator. However, with so many on the market, including the new spyder lite(any good?)and huey i am unsure which would be best for my requirements, given a limited budget. Can anyone help me? What hardware do you use/recomend?
Thanks in advance,
Svendo.

I recently bought a Spyder2Pro, which was
recommended
by Scott Kelby, Editor of Photoshop User Magazine,
and am very happy with it. The main difference
between Spyder2Pro and Spyder2 are multiple
monitor
support and more choices for monitor gamma and
tempereature settings. Since I use multiple
monitors, I went for Spyder2Pro, although it was a
bit more pricy (got it for $189 at JR.com). All
my
monitors were calibrated very quickly and I was
amazed how much difference the tool made. If you
have one monitor to calibrate, I think Spyder2
would
be fine (it was $89 at JR.com a few days ago).
One hint with the multiple monitor thing is that on
the Mac, all of these tools just end up generating an
ICC profile that gets assigned to your monitor.
What that means is that they all actually support
multiple monitors, just not all automatically... for
the ones that do not know how to select displays, you
can just move the menu bar to whatever screen you
wish to profile and the software should create a
profile for that screen.
I use the EyeOne and like it a lot. But any hardware
calibrator is better than none.
As a side note, I think using a color temperature of
65k for the monitor and a gamma of 2.2 is really a
good setting to use with any calibrator.
Svendo,
I fully support the comments in this post but still prefer the GM Eye 1. Dont try to do the job with your eye. 99 times out of 100 you will be way off the mark.

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