Confirmation/backflushing of finished goods

Hello all,
We sometimes produce finished goods using other finished goods. We have them added to BOMs accordingly, however, during Production Order confirmation CO15 they do not show up in the list of other components. Backflush indicator etc is set.
What's the setting to allow us to confirm them? I poked around in Material Type setup but nothing caught my eye.
Many thanks...

Thank you for your replies! I apologize, I just realized I asked the wrong question. The finished goods components do show up in the confirmation.
The problem is that these finished goods components don't create any demand in MRP. That's because we are on gross requirements planning.
I guess this goes back to my needs to have both independent (PIRs) and dependent (OrdRes) requirements active in MRP, and SAP for some reason doesn't do that.

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Material backflush in production order after finished goods GR

Dear all,
I once started similiar topic several months ago, but didn't recieved any response. I'm gonna give it another try, so maybe you'll be able to support me after all.
So, the situation is like this. We have a production order, in which MC team maintained the materials to consume. The problem is, that very often it comes that we have to use same material part, but under 2-3 different partnumbers. E.G.:
Production order target: 1000 finished goods
Required materials: Part A 1000 pcs, Part B1 700 pcs, Part B2 300 pcs, Part C 1000 pcs, Part D1 150 pcs, Part D2 450 pcs, Part D3 400 pcs.
So yes, in case when it is Part B1, B2 and etc. it means that we're using physically the same part, but under different partnumbers. The problem is, that those material are all coming in pieces, not in meters or anything, and we can't allow to have, for example, 0.7 pcs of any of those materials (cause obviously you can't have 0.7 pcs of LCD panels stored in the warehouse).
It wouldn't be a problem if we could just confirm all operations in production order in 1 batch, but production order is being confirmed partially, every time the pallet with finished goods is being released from production line (we have integrated system, that sends requests to SAP to confirm specific quantity of finished goods in production order). So, as an example, if 1 pallet contains 15 pcs of finished goods, you have 67 confirmations for production order [(66*15)+(1*10)]. And, since all those materials come in PCS, SAP is rounding up consumption if it has decimal, which leads to wrong materials consumption.
Initially, I had an idea of adding 1 more operation in production order, which was supposed to be a manual use only, after finished goods GR, and MC team supposed to assign those B1\B2 and etc. material to this operation E.G.:
Operation 0010 - consume material from work center A
Operation 0020 - consume material from work center B
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Operation 0040 - consume material from work center C
My idead was rejected, since I was told that after GR for finished goods is done and you continue consuming materials in production order - it will not be shown in financial reporting (don't know the details, it was quite a straight reject, without much explanation).
So, question is - is there a way to consume materials after finished goods GR without creating mess in financial reporting, or if not - what other options do I have?
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Hi Valentin,
After GR also you can do goods issue. Till the order status is CLSD (Closed) you can book cost on to the order.
Two ways to consume materials on order.
In order component overview maintain the required part number with quantity. GI as can done with reference to order MB1A 261 movement type.
Directly do GI with MB1A -261 movement type - Input the order number, material number and qty.
Refer to the below discussion on unplanned GI which was discussed yesterday,
http://scn.sap.com/message/14850196#14850196
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I was doing a Make to Order production with Strategy 20. When I was doing the confirmation with at least four operations, in the first operation was fine, movement type 261 was posted for the components and also in the last operation I have successfully confirmed the production order for the Finish Goods. However when I checked in CO03 - Display Production Order > Goto > Documented Goods Movements, the Finish Goods has a goods movement = 4 - Goods REceipt for Production, Movement Type = 101 with D/C indicator = S with the Amount in LC = 0.00.
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i ever asked about raw mat component always shown in component overview when CO11N although
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Hi,
What u said is right Mr Kapil.. See when u do GR From Production Order System Calculate Moving Price or Planned Price from
material Matser .
As per ur Reuirement u told it should calculate (Raw Material Price + activity+OVHD).
it is possible only when order quantity is less , suppose say your order qty is 150 mt per day and your Plant capacity is 500mt
per day production will be done in a half day, sale can be done on same day after Production with the formula what u told.
If suppose say , Your order is 2000 ton of Oil , it will take u to complete 4 days for your Total production as you told, GR should
be done on (Raw Material Price + activity+OVHD) formula, you dont know exact activity price for 2000 ton until u finish your total
production, at the same time until u do GR sales cannot be done. So in SAP Gr is intially done on Moving Average Or Planned
(Standard Price) , After totla Prodcution GR is Compared with Actual Cost(Raw Material Price + activity+OVHD)= :"Variance".
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I want to salvage the finished goods and take back raw material in the store .
Provide me solution for configuration and process .
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Hi,
Is the meaning of "salvage" to utilize the damaged FG? To disassemble it and use the components that are not damaged?
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Hi Gurus,
Have a nice day!
We would like to create production order for our semi finished goods and then we will doing confirmation. After we have produced our semi finished goods, we would like to include it in the bom as raw materials for our final FG. But how to handle this situation? Any suggestion on how the procedure to do it that the cost will not be double..when confirming the semi FG production it will generate cost for the usages of it raw materials. The semi FG is valuated then when i included it as raw material into Final FG it will generate cost for consumption in doing confirmation. I dont know the correct term for this scenario. In other word or semi FG will be part as a raw material to the next production.
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Thanks julian for contributing your idea. I really appreciated it.
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Finished Goods Rework - incorrect inventory after GR

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What is the normal steps to setup in SAP for Rework of Finished Goods.
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1. Goods return from Customer at Zero value, as we have to help customer to repair and ship back to them
2. We will create Return Sales Order, and perform goods receive from Customer
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Goods return from Customer at Zero value, as we have to help customer to repair and ship back to them
Consider you have MTO scenario
We will create Production Order and issue original FG to production line with extra materials + extra labour cost
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send the material into blocked stock
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wilson

Hi..
what I would say that production date would be the confirmed finish date.. if you open any production order..there is a field for this confirmed finish date.. it is the field which gets updated when u do the GR of finished product...
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Unlike many other systems, SAP moves all production activity through the P&L during the month - WIP is only moved back to the balance sheet during month-end processing.
So, the production value flow (items before the slash are FI accounts, items after the slash are cost objects)
1. Consume materials
Dr consumption / order
Cr Inventory       / -
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Dr -                   / Order
Cr -                   / CCtr
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3. Place finished items in inventory
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Cr Prod. clearing / order
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Dr Variances            / -
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To be able to enter external numbers for the no. range object BATCH_CLT the external number check box is to be selected. Tranx OMAD
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I am using kanban for finished goods(with MRP) to triggers production order(discrete manufacturing). If i set the status "empty" system is creating a planned order directly. It is not coming for MRP run. I suppose, that planned order should be created through MRP run(since i am using kanban with MRP). Can you please tell what settings i need to be checked?
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Hi,
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KANBAN With MRP
Prerequisites
In this process, the storage location assigned to the supply area is not excluded from MRP.
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