Confused about Credit Score Fluctuations

I've been on the path to improving my credit but I am so confused as to what is the perfect balance to carry on my cards to have the best credit score. Since April I have gone from the 600s (610 - 630) to 704 - 710. I have been playing around with different balances and it seems like I can't find the happy medium.  For example, I have 3 credit cards with $9,000 total credit limit. I decided to pay them all off to have a zero balance and that dropped my score by about 11 points... then I had a small balance of $600 on one card, and the score went up 1 point. Then one card had a balance of $40 and the score went up 22 points. It's so hit or miss right now.  I'm guessing it's because I've been playing around with 'the system' that it keeps fluctuating. I know that my total usuage should be 20% or less.... so what do I do to keep my credit score consistent. We are getting ready to buy a house and I need it to stay in the 700s.  Do I leave a balance at all times or do I have 0 balance at all times or what??  Also, I will have to have zero balances on my cards (showing $0 min payment) when we go to the bank for the house loan for our DTI.  Thank you in advance for your recommendations.

tufa4311 wrote:
Revelate wrote: If there's a balance on the card, even $2, it gets counted as the minimum payment which is reported.  Basically flatline credit cards get ignored under the current DTI calculation at any rate for a mortgage process.Expand on this if you would. I'll be doing the mortgage thing at some point so it is good knowledge to have. Let's say a balance is left on one card thus it is not ignored on the DTI calculation. What is potential ramification of that? A high interest rate on one's mortgage? If not, then what, how can this hurt financially? Also, are we taking into account the high likelihood that his credit score will go down due to 0% UTIL? Could this put him in a lower bracket so as to get a higher interest rate on his mortgage? Does one offset the costs of the other?Mortgage interest rate is determined on a couple of things but DTI ain't one of them:FICO scoreLTV/CLTV (read as: size of downpayment vs. purchase price)Points if you buy them or lender credits towards closing costsOutside of that though there's nothing which impacts the rate sheet beyond the base rate that a lender is offering on a given product.  Since I wasn't in the gold plated strata, and what tier I would land in actually mattered as a result, I went for FICO optimization and left a small balance on one credit card.  Frankly I'd argue everyone should do this from an optimization pre-mortgage. DTI comes into play though whether you can qualify for the mortgage size; essentially what the OP is running into is the sum of all his debts (monthly payments) and the expected mortgage + insurance + taxes divided by his gross monthly income is going over the 43% backend ratio that many lenders have, and as such he can't qualify for the loan without dumping some of his debts. Credit cards, if there's a balance on them, the minimum payment drops straight into the monthly payment debt, and therefore can affect DTI.  Any revolving tradeline which reports $0, does not. That all said, if we're talking a $20 difference on whether you can meet the maximum DTI line, non-zero chance the mortgage is too expense for current income.  You need to optimize both score for rate purposes, and DTI if needed for mortgage qualifilcation at all, and the 0% utilization is a negative from a scoring perspective, and that can materially impact your rate.  In my case I was at a 722, if I'd had all 0's and dropped down into the 700-719 tier, that would've increased my rate by around .250%

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    I rang BT on 10th April to find out what the problem is and was told that it was my credit score and there was nothing that could be done to change what had been done. I was told that I would need to find out for myself what adverse information was held by Equifax who BT use. After paying £14.95 to Equifax for a full report and credit score I found that my credit score is 527 which is deemed to be excellent against the UK average score of 380, and there is absolutely no adverse information whatsoever which is of no surprise to me. So what on earth are BT looking at. I have tried in vein to get somebody in BT to check my file as there must be an error. I suspect that when I applied on line the process is automated and the system has made a mistake. Rather than investigate my case I am just being told nothing can be done to let me use my phone whilst abroad. After several hours on the phone to various people over a few days I have come up against a brick wall.
    Is there anyway a moderator could help me please. If I had known that I would encounter this I would not have signed up for BT Mobile and Ported my number which I would be loathe to loose.      

    it may well be nothing to do with your credit score, but more to do with bt internals
    ie: I purchased a new second hand car last year (December), my bank who i have been with for over 10 years, have a current loan with (that ends this year) and have had previous loan with, never been overdrawn, wages paid in each month and bills paid on time said I could not have a loan and if they did offer one it would be at a very high interest rate (i am still waiting to fine out from them why), even though I got a loan through another company at a very good deal, I upgraded my 3 accounts with EE from T-Mobile in December and January which all required a new credit check went through without issues (and they offered me another line on my contract on Sunday, saying that my credit rating is perfect) . My credit rating from experian when I checked (because of my bank) was Green and in Excellent condition.
    The only thing I know was 11 years ago I got in financial debt (the bank purchased the debt from another company, but I paid everything off by scrimping and scraping for a number of years) - it may be that they are still using against me, but every other company has said they find nothing wrong with my rating, but what I have heard is that they reset ratings every month, so you may be fine to get something on the 1st of the month, but if applied on the 2nd they would refuse it.

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