Constant Disappointed with webcams

Dear Creative,
I am just writting you as a long standing customer who has always been a fan of the Creative brand, through soundcards to speakers, to webcams.
I've been very upset lately with my latest purchase of a creative webcam, the livecam Pro for notebooks,
just like my last webcam for notebooks also by Creative called "NX PRO", has failed miserably.
Although the software is good and the lenses of the webcam are good. I feel I've been let down by Creative's input into the materials on which it builds its hardware on.
The leg attachment is the worst piece of flimsy plastic I have ever seen.
In fact both of these cameras broke. The part that attaches the stand/leg to the camera is so fragile that all that is needed is a simple movements and it breaks, rendering the webcam useless as there is no where to put it on.
I have had to use bluetac as a solution. If I know I would be using bluetac, I would have bought a generic webcam.
And if you are thinking, I am heavy handed, May I remind you that I have been using computers for 10+ years and I know how to deal with delicate software.
This has happened twice to me now. And I have to say I will not be recommending creative cameras to anyone any time soon.
Best Regards,
Mariposadeamor

I agree. I opened the box for my parents new Live! Cam Video IM Pro, and in setting it up on the computer, the camera broke off the stand. I did not force it at all. What a disappointing product. This product clearly doesn't meet the standard for products sold in California. I'll be taking this up with Creative Labs.

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  • Constant Disappointment with webc

    Dear Creative,
    I am just writting you as a long standing customer who has always been a fan of the Creative brand, through soundcards to speakers, to webcams.
    I've been very upset lately with my latest purchase of a creative webcam, the li'vecam Pro for notebooks,
    just like my last webcam for notebooks also by Creative called "NX PRO", has failed miserably.
    Although the software is good and the lenses of the webcam are good. I feel I've been let down by Creative's input into the materials on which it builds its hardware on.
    The leg attachment is the worst piece of flimsy plastic I have ever seen.
    In fact both of these cameras broke. The part that attaches the stand/leg to the camera is so fragile that all that is needed is a simple movements and it breaks, rendering the webcam useless as there is no where to put it on.
    I have had to use bluetac as a solution. If I know I would be using bluetac, I would have bought a generic webcam.
    And if you are thinking, I am heavy handed, May I remind you that I have been using computers for 0+ years and I know how to deal with delicate software.
    This has happened twice to me now. And I have to say I will not be recommending creative cameras to anyone any time soon.
    Best Regards,
    Mariposadeamor

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