Containers with abstract Interfaces in other Softwarecomponents

Hi all,
I just noticed that I can't reference an abstract interface in a BPM Container that is not in the same softwarecomponent as the process.
That's a pity!
Is there any trick to make it possible to do that??
I created one softwarecomponent for sender objects, one softwarecomponent for receiver objects and one softwarecomponent for mappings and that's the proper way to do it I suppose? I don't want to mix it all up now just because of that restriction.
How do you usually solve this?
Thanks in advance
Karsten

hi,
Create a usage dependency while installing the products on your s/w component.
check this...
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2e/a552306887d4428239a5aec74aabe3/frameset.htm
please reward if helps..
Thanks,
Vijaya.

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