Converting 720/60p to 24p

Im using a Panasonic HMC150 and shot some footage in 720/60p so I can try out the slow motion effect. How do I convert the clips shot in 720/60p to 24p using Final Cut Pro? I don't know how to set the timeline up to be 24p. Is it just a matter of getting the footage in the timeline and changing the speed?

YOu use Cinema Tools. Tutorial found here:
http://library.creativecow.net/rossshane/slow-motioncinema-tools/1
Shane

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Converting 30p/60p to 24p

hello
i am trying to convert my 60p footage from my Canon 7D to 24p to get that "film look". If i simply drag a 60p clip into a 24p timeline, will it automatically convert it to 24p?
This seems to make sense, but Philip Bloom on his web site has this long process of conforming it to 24p in Cinema Tools, then speeding that back up in Compressor to match the original timing. Does it have to be done this way or can i just drag it in?
thanks
heres the link for philip blooms workflow:
http://philipbloom.co.uk/tutorials/canon-5dmkii-tutorials/how-to-convert-canon-5 dmk2-footage-from-30p-to-24p/

be aware, the "film look" has much less to do with the frame rate and more to do with cinematographic elements like depth of field, lighting, and grain. Even if you convert 30 to 24, you still had a shutter speed of 1/60th of a second, so the individual frames have less motion involved than if you had a shutter speed of 1/48th of a second.

Black frames at the end of an exported file when converting from 60p to 24p

I have another export issue that I can't figure out.
I import footage I shot at 23.98fps (on a JVC HD100) using a Kona LH card at 59.94fps DVCPro HD, in which it has a 2:3 cadence. I need to make files that are actually 23.98p DVCProHD. Unfortunately, when I export in Final Cut from the 59.94 original, the new 23.98 file has all of the image, exported correctly, followed by a number of black frames such that the total number of frames in the exported file equals the number of frames in the original file. That is:
If the original 59.94 file was 3s long, that is 60 * 3 = 180 frames. The exported 23.98 file also has 180 frames, but only 3s of image = 3 * 24 = 72 frames, followed by 180 - 72 = 108 frames = 4s 12frames of black.
How can I prevent this from happening, and end up with an exported file that is (e.g.) just the 3s of image, and not 7.5s of which 4.5s are black?
It's true that I can manually clip this black off, but I need to do many clips as a batch, and would really not have to change one clip at a time. It is also true that I can do a batch in compressor, and that this process does not suffer this problem -- that is, there is no extra black -- however, there is another problem: the original 59.94 DVCProHD files are actually 1280x720 with square pixels; the files exported from FCP via the KONA DVCProHD codec maintain this true HD proportion, but the ones exprted through compressor (which does not appear to support the KONA LH implementation of DVCProHD as an option) have the size 960x720 with anamorphic pixels, and I would rather keep the original size. Thus, I would rather export from fcp. If anyone has any insight into how I might resolve this....
Thanks,
Robert Schaller

Thanks. If I understand you correctly, it does seem to export correctly if I paste the 59.94 clip into a 23.98 sequence (you can't nest sequences that have different time bases) and export from there, and it doesn't even have to specify square pixels, etc.: the AJA codec implementation seems to take care of that. There is no longer any extra black, so, per file, that gives the right result.
That, however, is only one part of the problem, though a significant part. Next is, I really would like to do this as a batch process, as I tend to have many clips to do at one time. As soon as I try any kind of batch export, I end up with one of two problems:
1) if I try to batch export from fcp, I'm back to having extra black frames, or
2) if I try to batch export with compressor, I get 960x720 files.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to get the right files in a batch, that would be the next step. Is fcp scriptable? And, if so, can you write a script that takes a clip, pastes it into a blank 23.98 DVCPro timeline, sets the correct in and out points (i.e, in at the beginning and out 1 before the end), exports it with a specified codec and time base, with a name based on the source clip, and then repeats that as needed?
Thanks for any input --
Robert Schaller

Canon 7D 720/60p converted to 720/24p in Premiere Pro CS4

I've exhausted all my resources trying to find a simple answer but it seems like anything regarding 60p to 24p is about slow motion video which I already know how to do and understand thoroughly.
My question is, with my Canon 7D, there's no option for 720/24p (23.976), there's only 720/60p (29.97) or 50p. Getting 30p video is simple because Premiere just drops every other frame. Now 24p is a little trickier. There is an option for 1080/24p which is overkill for what I want and need to do. I also don't have the capacity in memory cards for that.
I understand that if I drop a 60p video on a 24p timeline, Premiere will just drop frames. But since 60 is not divisible by 24.. how does Premiere know which frames to drop? I believe there's also a Frame Blending option as well.. how would that work?
I'm looking for the best way to convert 60p video to 24p in Premiere. I can't imagine it being overly complicated.

quazis wrote:
Thanks for the reply but I'm not sure who told you that 1080p24 produces smaller file sizes than 720p60.
Canon 7D has a max recording limit of 4gb (per file) due to FAT32 file system restrictions. At 1080p, 4gb = 12minutes. On a 16gb card, that's only 48minutes. At 720p, 4gb = 30minutes. That's 2 hours.
Then it's Canon's encoding scheme or sensor use that makes such a huge difference. My AVCHD files from a Panasonic HMC150 are smaller at 1080p24 than at 720p60. Which makes sense since the raw pixel count per second is less with 1080p24 (49,766,400 at 1080p24 versus 55,296,00 for 720p60).
I have a tutorial on my web site about using dv2film, which is designed to convert 60i DV to 24p DV. But it also works for HD footage. Check it out and let me know what you think.
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I'm a bit confused. Since my original camera format was 720/60p, and I converted the footage to Pro Res422 in order to edit in Final Cut Pro 7, should I convert back to a higher quality format before sending the file to DVD Studio Pro?

I'm a bit confused. Since my original camera format was 720/60p, and I converted the footage to Pro Res422 in order to edit in Final Cut Pro 7, should I convert back to a higher quality format before sending the file to DVD Studio Pro? If so, which Compressor codec is best to use in order to preserve the original 720/60p? How do I maintain the highest quality?

No...ProRes is a high quality format. Finishing format. Many TV networks take that as a final deliverable.
BUT...DVDs aren't high definition...they are SD. You cannot make a 720p60 DVD with DVD Studio Pro. Any DVD you make will be SD...720x480. The only HD DVD format out there is BluRay, and for that you need a BluRay burner.
As for making a high quality DVD...using the BEST QUALITY settings in Compressor will work:
#42 - Quick and dirty way to author a DVD
Shane's Stock Answer #42 - David Roth Weiss' Secret Quick and Dirty Way to Author a DVD:
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1. Export a QT movie, either a reference file or self contained using current settings.
2. Open DVDSP, select the "graphical" tab and you will see two little monitors, one blue, one green.
3. Select the left blue one and hit delete.
4. Now, select the green one, right click on it and select the top option "first play".
5. Now drag your QT from the browser and drop it on top of the green monitor.
6. Now, for a DVD from an HD source, look to the right side and select the "general tab" in the track editor, and see the Display Mode, and select "16:9 pan-scan."
7. Hit the little black and yellow burn icon at the top of the page and put a a DVD in when prompted. DVDSP will encode and burn your new DVD.
THATS ALL!!!
NOW...if you want a GOOD LOOKING DVD, instead of taking your REF movie into DVD SP, instead take it into Compressor and choose the BEST QUALITY ENCODE (2 pass VBR) that matches your show timing. Then take THAT result into DVD SP and follow the rest of the steps. Except you can choose "16:9 LETTERBOX" instead of PAN & SCAN if you want to see the entire image.

HVX200- 720/60P in 23.97 timeline... ramp problems.

I am having difficulty trying to modify the speed of my timelapse shots (1F per 1sec) that were taken in the 720/60P mode in a 23.97 timeline. The clips play fine (after rendering) when I do not modify the speed.
Basically most of the project is being shot in the 720/24PN mode but I did a few timelapses with the 720/60P mode that I wanted to ramp up, but when I put it in the timeline, modified the speed and rendered it the clip goes well then stops about 3/4 of the way through.
Is there a specific modify speed % for this situation? Would I be better off trying to do the timelapse at 720/30P for this specific timeline?
Understanding that I can not use the intervalometer function (1 frame per 1 second) in 24PN or 24P.
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To avoid glitches with different modes in the same project, I edit the section with the odd mode (your 720/60P) and then export it as a separate clip into the mode you want to use in your timeline (your 720/24P). It cuts down on your editing options later, but it also cuts down on hassles especially when exporting the final file.

Capturing HDV 720/60p?

Can Final Cut even capture HDV 720/60p nativly? I've been trying to capture some footage recorded on a JVC GY-HD250U with a JVC BR-HD50U deck. The footage was intended for a 720/30p project, but I couldn't capture it that way. The only workaround I found was to capture it into the project in the Apple Intermediate Codec HDV 720p30. What other workflows / solutions are there for this, if any?

I read a little about this JVC camera and I wasn't sure you can get 60p onto the tape, it seemed like you could get 60p out in analogue.
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Panasonic GH1 - AVCHD 720 60P Project

I ordered a Panasonic GH1 and I intend to use the AVCHD 720 60P mode.
I understand that its probably using coding with H.274 Main Profile Level 4.0 at 17Mbps.
I already downloaded some sample videos but I cannot edit them in this mode.
1) How do I create a AVCHD 720 60P project? I cannot find such a preset?
2) Since I do not want to loose any image quality, I only intend to cut / assemble my clips with very limited editing hoping that I can re-export with minimal re-coding in exactly the same format, profile, bit rate, etc... How can I do this?

Well, I'll be more specific then - I was reluctant to appear to be using Adobe's forums for touting the features of competitive apps, but at the end of the day nobody in their right mind would say that, for all people and for all purposes, progam "A" is better than program "B" for editing video. It depends on what you in particular are wanting to do, the style in which you are wanting to do it, and the source device (camera / camcorder) and host PC that you are using. In reading the following, Your Mileage May Vary!
Currently I have PE7, Pinnacle Studio 12.1 and Cyberlink PowerDirector 8 (just released) on my PC. And Nero 9. My source video comes from Panasonic SD5 and Panasonic GH1 devices, in AVCHD format. The former is 1080 and the latter does that and 720 as well.
In brief, my personal views on these are as follows:-
PE7 - a much more "pro" interface than the others, and I like some of the details like being able to use separate audio and video transitions. But it doesn't like the 720 footage from my GH1, and it doesn't create AVCHD DVDs which are my preferred output medium (highest quality at lowest cost, as compared with blu ray). There are ways around this that I've described some months back, and possibly some even better ways that I really should document some time (using freeware) but it's a pity it's not built in.
Studio 12.1 - An interface that seems targetted at kids rather than adults, and the way it goes about some aspects of video editing don't suit my personal approach. It handles all the types of AVCHD that I've tried it with and creates AVCHD DVDs directly with menus, but it's due for an update in terms of its efficiency in handling AVCHD - you need a PC with clout to get a fluid feel when working on the timeline.
Nero 9 - Has the ability to smart render some (by no means all) AVCHD footage, so if you simply want to edit with no bells and whistles, you can do so and then render to AVCHD file or AVCHD DVD in the time taken to copy the data - no processing happens, and no quality loss is involved. If I was running a newsroom I'd be sending out my teams with cameras that took Nero-compatible footage and do the editing really fast in Nero ready for the next news bulletin. But I'd hope no effects etc were required as that's not what Nero is good at. IT handles GH1 AVCHD footage of both resolutions but only smart renders 1080.
PowerDirector 8 - this can use the processing power of certain Cuda-compatible (and other) graphics cards to give a significant boost to AVCHD playback and rendering performance. On my 9300 quad core PC I've got it to play four rotated picture-in-picture images on top of a base image all sourced from AVCHD before the PC maxed out performancewise. It really does make it unnecessary to transcode to something else for effective editing (though you still need a pretty up to date PC). It accepts GH1 AVCHD (both resolutions) and outputs to AVCHD DVD with menus (and to the other formats you'd expect) but it's smart rendering capability does rather vary with the source - my AVCHD devices don't seem to be on its smart rendering list. However, rendering is significantly faster than with other apps I've tried and I think the quality is good - though some people on the Cyberlink forum don't agree. As I said, YMMV. It has some nice features but the most childish-looking interface of all of them - quite embarrasing to use.
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SlowMotion in Premiere Pro CS5.5 mit 720/60p Aufnahmen

Hallo!
Ich habe eine Panasonic AG-AC160 Kamera und habe damit Aufnahmen im 720/60p Modus gemacht. nun habe ich 59.94 frames pro sekunde aufgezeichnet (wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe) und würde gerne in premiere Pro CS5.5 die Aufnahmen so darstellen, dass sich das Geschehen langsamer darstellt.
Ich möchte nicht einfach die Geschwindigkeit des Clips auf 75% setzen, das Ruckeln sieht man einfach zu deutlich.
ich habe versucht, das Material in eine "normale" 25p-Sequenz einzufügen, aber dann scheint Premiere das material anzupassen und macht Material mit 29.97 fps daraus.
Ich hab mit verschiedenen "frame-rates" noch nicht viel Erfahrung, deswegen die Frage...
Danke für jede Hilfe!
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Ok, it's weird to answer my own post, yet I learned how to do it and in case someone else is just starting up, it might be helpful:
import the 60p footage into premiere, rightclick onto it in your footage-list and got to modify > interpret footage. there you can enter your desired framerate (in my case 25fps) and click "ok". then right click on the footage again and choose "new sequence from clip" and now you have a 25fps-sequence with true slow motion footage.
thanks to Adobe ambassador Jon Barrie!

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If you don't have a CUDA card then make sure you check the "Use Maxmimum Render Quality" in the export dialog. This will slow the export down considerably but it's worth it.
DO NOT export directly to Encore and have Encore do the conversion because it will be lower quality all round.
95% of everything se delivery needs a DVD making, so we went through of a lot of trial and error to get the best quality possible!

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From 60p to 24p...

Hi guys, with new FCX how do you now conform 60p into 24p? Thanks a bunch !

@RedHavoc
Yes. I downloaded Final Cut Pro X this morning and created a project with a frame rate of 24p. I imported footage shot on my Canon 7D @60fps. I dropped a clip in the timeline, selected it, went to Modify>Retime>Conform Speed and it retimed the footage to 40% of it's original speed.

Panasonic TM900 Owners Who Successfully Converted 1080 60p Video for FCPX

I am looking for Panasonic TM900 owners only please!!
(Please don't respond unless you have converted 1080 60p video from a TM900 camcorder)
Thanks to Tom Wolsky, it appears there is a resolution for how to get 1080 60p video into FCPX that is like quality with no degradation via ClipWrap.
What I am looking for is other TM900 owners who have successfully done this and are pleased with the results, i.e. no degradation in video quality, no weird video artifacts added or random blank green frames added every second or so.
What did you use, i.e. ClipWrap, Aunsoft Final Mate, etc?
Was the process simple or were there a lot of "tuning" steps required?
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In the Browser, does it say 59.94 for the frame rate? If so, then it is some hiccup. I hit this every now and then. In this case I would then use Cinema Tools to OPEN the clip and then CONFORM it to 23.98fps. COPY IT FIRST...it modifies the clip destructively...meaning it will be slow motion now forever...no going back.
Shane

Reverse 3:2 Pulldown to convert AVCHD PF24 to 24P proper?

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Does anyone know if Final Cut Pro X has the ability to natively convert video shot in PF24 and convert it to a true 24 frames per second? Proper de-interlacing is a must.
I have a Canon HF20 and I love it except for the fact that it doesn't have a native 24P mode. My old Adobe Premiere CS5 flow I set up has a few 3rd party scripts that can chew on the video overnight and spit out beautiful 24P footage after doing a proper 3:2 reverse pulldown, but the process takes forever and the output AVIs are massive... too big to be practical to be used on my Macbook Pro.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I doubt FCP X can do it but I don't know and I'm sure someone who does will correct me if I'm wrong. That being said, there's a way to do it that requires converting the video with Compressor first. So you'd need to spend the extra US$49 for Compressor if you don't have it.
There is an Apple Support Article on how to do this same thing for the Canon HV20 which shoots HDV PF24. The article is a few years old and focuses on FCP 6 and the version of Compressor that shipped with it. So you might need to change a few things if you're using a newer version of Compressor. I haven't tried it with Compressor 4 but it should still work.

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