Converting DVCPRO 50 to HD

I've been asked to upconvert DVCPRO 50 video to DVCPRO 100 video (Isn't that HD?). Any insight on the best way to go about this?
I've only been editing for a little more than a year and am basically self taught, so I know enough to be dangerous but not much more.
I'm working on a Mac Pro with Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Machine Model: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
I have Final Cut Pro 5 and am using AJA Kona 3 card

Your Kona 3 card can do this as you capture it, and it's better than the next option I'll wager...
Once captured you can upconvert it simply by placing it in a DVCPROHD sequence, or you can export it to compressor and upconvert the clips that way.
By far however, the best way to upconvert SD to HD is to use a teranex box to do it. Pricey for the better ones...
Jerry

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Converting DVCPro HD frame rates

Hello again mon saviors,
I have DVCPro HD 1080i60 files shot from an HVX-200.
How do i convert them to 720 24p?
Can I do it in Final Cut with the compressor settings on export or do I need a Kona or Decklink HD?
Thank you again - misha

I did the same and I just opened a timeline, dropped in the first clip and clicked "yes" when asked if it wanted me to change my timeline settings to match that of the clip. I've been able to work my project on my MBP without rendering everything every time I change something. The downside to this is that I seem to have had trouble importing photoshop files for video as it only exports to 23.98fps which seems to have a weird effect on the dimensions of the photo.
To get around that, I found that I could set it up with HDV 720p25, import it into FCP, keyframe as required, then export to a DVCPro HD 720p60 movie using export to quicktime movie and it works great.
Now, I've probably done this all wrong as I'm the furthest from and expert and this was just trial and error, but it's worked for me so far. There'll be people on this board who'll probably give you much better help.
Good luck,
Lawrence

Down Converting DVCPro HD to SD using Compressor 2

We just recieved and installed Final Cut Studio...
Everything that we are shooting and editing is in the DVCPro HD format.
From time to time, we need to Deliver this footage on DVD. With Compressor 2, I understand that you can take the DVCPro HD files and Downconvert them to Standard Definition.
My question is how do I accomplish this?
Do I just load the DVCPro HD file into Compressor, and enter in a Standard Definition MPEG2 Preset, and compressor will do the downconversion?
Thank You in advance for any help!!

Do I just load the DVCPro HD file into Compressor, and enter in a Standard Definition MPEG2 Preset, and compressor will do the downconversion?
Yes, that should work. However, if you don't like the results you may have to try some "tweaks" to the preset. The Compressor help files (electronic manual -- PDF) will have information on this.

Recipe for DVCPRO HD 16x9 convert to MiniDV Letterboxed

Hi everyone,
Can you please help me figure out the recipe to convert DVCPRO HD 16x9 to MiniDV Letterboxed?
I can never get it to look right after many tests.
Also, what's the recipe for converting the same thing to a DV file that I can load into iMovie and still have the 16x9 letterboxed in the 1:33 of my miniDV?
Thanks so much!!!
Kirk

Create a NTSC DV sequence with the same timebase as your DVCProHD sequence (probably 23.98). Nest the DVCProHD sequence. Render.
When you print the DV sequence to tape, FCP will automatically add the pulldown to 29.97 on the way out the firewire.

Up converting DVCPro50 to HD

Hi everybody,
I was wondering if it is possible to up convert DVCPro 50(720x480) to HD 1080i.Can it be done with compressor?I have and AJA Kona LHe (just installed) I haven't figured it all out yet, can it be used? I have a 20min show that is DVCPRO 50 720x480 Anamorphic and the client want it up converted to HD 1080i for HDCAM. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Guy

You can do it with Compressor. Capture it via Firewire, then use the Advanced Conversion option in Compressor. Fiddle with the FRAME settings to get the results you want.
The Kona LHe cannot upconvert, only the Kona 3 can do that (and a few Decklink cards).
Oh, it is an edited show. Then export a self contained file, the use Compressor to upconvert it to...try ProRes, and if you have as fast enough Raid, Uncompressed 10-bit HD. But what I would do if I were you would be to take the self contained export to a post facility with a Kona 3 and an HDCAM deck and let them upconvert on the fly as they output. But, that depends on your situation...I myself send the file to the post house.
Shane

DVCPRO HD and FCE4

I've been reading through the posts, and I understand that FCE4 does not support DVCPRO HD editing (A bit strange, considering that it is listed as a supported format in the user manual).
So, here's my situation. I'm using FCP7 at Uni, but as availbablity is very limited, I want to do the editing at home on FCE4. Can I use FCP7 to convert the DVCPRO HD footage to the Apple Intermediate Codec, then transfer the footage (not the project) to my machine with FCE4? Or, is there any way to convert DVCPRO HD to AVCHD?
Thank you!

The FCE manual doesn't list DVCPRO HD as a supported format, however it makes a few mentions of it in the Appendix related to industry and technical information and formats, etc. for reference and comparison.
MPEG Streamclip may do the necessary conversions for you as well. It's free so it's easy to try it out.

DVCPRO HD to DVCAM

Is there a way to convert DVCPRO HD 720p files to DVCAM so I can edit offline in DVCAM in FCP and then online later with the original files (retaining timecode)?

In the advanced format presets there is a NTSC DV converter.
Going to take some time however.

DVCPro 720 24P to HDV

What is the best route to write 720P 24 DVCPro footage to HDV tape. I know it is not the best and there are other alternates such as playing the footage out of my laptop however it has to be done. I need to get the footage on to HDV tape. Please tell me the steps.

Issue #1 - as Andy points out, that deck records 1080i 29.97 only. No 720p. 720p is a JVC format.
Issue #2 - That deck doesn't have ANY professional inputs. Composite and S-Video only. No component...no SDI. HDV decks are players only. HDV is simply NOT a mastering format.
Issue #3 - Firewire output only to this deck really. For that you need to convert DVCPRO HD I-Frame 720p to 1080i GOP format...not the best way to go. Even with Compressor and everything set to best you get some weird artifacting. I have tested this out and have not been satisfied with the results.
Shane

FCP 6 Buggy?

Is there a list of confirmed bugs, and/or updates for FCP 6?
I've searched the forums and haven't seen to many things on FCP 6 as of yet. I aoplogize in advance if someone has posted simalarly to my issues.
We're at the tail end of a project, and upgraded to FCS 2.
I'm on a Dual 2.2 G5, w/ 8G RAM, 500 internal, 3TB Raid, Radeon 9600 card/23" HD display.
We have a mix of media from P2, to hi-16mm, (converted DVCPRO HD), mini-DV, and some high speed Phantom V10 footage also DVCPRO HD.
Project settings are DVCPRO HD 720p60.
Everything seemed o.k. at first but quickly realized that some clips seemed to be 'slid/rolled' to a different portion of the source clip, (keeping the durations the same).
Also, I'm noticing some peculiarities in this multi-format timeline. For the most part its great that you can grab just about any footage and slap it in the timeline and you can either see it full res, or catch a green bar, (format outside settings) and see a low res version, none the less be able to play back instantly. However, when I render some of these clips, be it Stills, mini DV, or DVCPRO HD, it somehow randomlychanges the outcome of what I'm trying to see.
Sorry if I'm confusing, but here is a list of symptoms I've noticed:
1. Random selection of clips when unrendered appear to be on different portion of source clip.----when rendered--wha-la- its in its correct position.
The problem with this is that I have to edit blindly, and keep rendering to see my every edit. even if I render a portion-that portion will be correct, then the rest of clip will jump to random spot.?!
2. Some clips that have the low-res green bar will play in right position unrendered. When I render it, it will jump to wrong position of source clip.
I've tried sub-clipping and bringing back into timeline. this seems to work for a moment, however, when it comes into the timeline it appears black, if I render, its fine. If I want to time-remap it throws it out of whack once again.
3. I did a full res render last night, and came in this morning to find that some stills, and mini-DV footage have turned black. Even when double-clicked into the viewer they appear black there as well. When I want to reset the render by grabbing the opacity key on the clip in timeline it chugs the system, gives me the beachball and nothing happens when red bar comes back.
I've tried trashing FCP pref....nothing..
Furthermore, I've messed with the new Motion Stabilizer which I've seen and read, that it analyzes entire source media of clip, (pain in the butt). could that be possibly screwing things up?
Now it also occurs to me that it could be a RAID issue, We're having issues with our RAID Admin not communicating w/Raid, however still being able to work in FCP and see all clips.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks a lot, Zack
Dual 2.7 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.9) 8 GB DDR SDRAM 2X400 internal

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The RAID situation could be disastrous. In consideration of your client, you should begin immediately to plan for the worst case scenario: How will you rebuild this project if your RAID is damaged beyond repair?
Sorry no one has contributed to the thread yet, that happens around here with new software. Takes a couple of months for everything to filter down. Few who have upgraded so soon have anything that resembles your rig/resources so it's difficult for the major wonks to help.
While you're waiting, you can search for BUG but bugs are most often simple user errors reported by totally freaked out newbies or folks who upgraded in the middle of a critical project without considering the consequences.
Be sure to check the other FCP forums. If you crosspost, please consider closing all of your threads by posting your solution, should you get one.
Wishing you luck,
bogiesan

HD LOG

Has anyone out there used Imagine's HD LOG to convert DVCPRO HD 720p PAL into a usable format to work in FCP?
i.e convert into a P2 file
(Seeing as there's no DVCPRO HD 720p PAL capture support yet coming from a deck)
Matt

How do you know there is no support? Have you TRIED capturing from the deck? You haven't indicated that you have.
HD Log works with footage that is in the file format, or other format that already exists on hard drives. It cannot see footage on tape.
Shane

(PPro CS4/Windows) AVCHD to DVCPRO HD Converter

I just recently won a Sony HDR-PJ270, which shoots AVCHD 1080 60i (30 frames per second, 60 fields)/60p (60 progressive frames per minute --- twice the frame rate of NTSC). The camera also records in MP4 --- but from what I can figure out it only does that if you are in "Dual-Mode", where it records the AVCHD as your "Good" footage, and then the MP4 is recorded for uploading to the internet.
Anyway I was testing some footage in PPro CS4, and the AVCHD was really causing my system to just slow down --- way---way---way down. I've downloaded the Koyote Free HD Video converter, and I really was not impressed with the conversion quality (of course I'm not too impressed with the video quality when playing right from the camera to my TV via HDMI---but I think that has to do with AVCHD's compression and color space of 4:2:0---on smaller lines, such as pinstriping on a car, I was finding the color moving around just like I used to find with S-VHS and narrow lines) whether it is DVD for clients or I also volunteer at a local cable station and sometimes I do news stories for them and they still broadcast at 480i, so while this camera will not be used for my main camera, I may use it for wide angle shots (i.e. at a concert set it up on wide at the back of the auditorium). So is there a converter out there that will convert the AVCHD to DVCPRO HD or even DVCPRO50 (still keep the AVCHD files for future use) so that I can edit the video without draining my system's resources?

I did play with the camera and TV settings, but nothing changed. Even just playing the file back with WMP it has the issue. As for 4:2:0 I never found it offered good color, even at SD levels---I prefer, and find, the formats that deal with 4:1:1 or 4:2:2 or. 4:4:4 color spaces due to the better color, due to less crosstalk.

Can I use toast 10 to convert AVCHD to DVCPRO HD *with timecode* ???

I have a project shot in DVCPRO HDp60 and they've now given me some AVCHD footage to work with. Following the advice around here I went out and got Toast 10 to convert the AVCHD to DVCPRO and it works but I don't get the timecode. I need to preserve the timecode because windows dubs have already been made and it'll be a reference. I have the full AVC file structure and do get proper reel# and timecode when using FCP Log&Transfer but don't want to use ProRes or AIC.
Can Toast transfer the timecode or did I rush out and buy this too soon??? And if so am I stuck with ProRes or AIC if I need timecode? And if so does the quality of AIC compare to DVCPROHDp60?
thanks for any help

Time Machine would work, but it is the wrong tool for this job...
Easiest is to buy a new drive which is the same form-factor (2.5-inch laptop SATA drive probably) which is in an external case. I'd go for a terabyte drive -- it's not much more expensive.
The tool you need now is a disk-copying utility -- the best ones are CarbonCopyCloner and SuperDuper. One is free, the other shareware.
Then you plug the new big drive into your MBP, and it will probably mount on your desktop. Use the cloning software to copy your internal disk to the new external disk. This will take an hour or two, as opposed to Time Machine which takes FOREVER!
When you are done making the copy, you need to swap the two disks between the computer and the external drive case. If you are adventurous, search YouTube for instructions on how to replace the disk drive on your computer. Or take it to your local mac repair shop and have it done by a professional.
Ok, now you have a big new disk inside the computer, with everything exactly as it was on the 250GB disk -- except for a lot more free space! And you have a "boot disk" in your little case, which you can put up on a shelf for safe keeping. After awhile, you can erase your old disk and use it for off-computer storage. Or just leave it and periodically boot from it and keep the software up-to-date. When all **** breaks loose (software upgrade that has gone bad, etc.) you will find it an invaluable tool!

DVCPRO HD Frame rate converter not working

Hello all
I cant seem to get my frame rate converter to work. I shot the footage on my hvx200 at 720p30 and then put it in film mode and changed the frame rate to 60. Then I log and transfered it into FCP and when i go to convert it i keep getting the same message.
www.okayyellow.com/errormessage.png
does anyone know why? I have gotten some footage to convert before with no problems.
Thanks
Andrew

Evening Films wrote:
All worked well last time I did this (late March), but upgraded to Leopard since then and brought all FCStudio apps up to date at the same time.
Looks like on import (log/transfer in FCP from Firestore) somehow the files are being flagged as having 'temporal compression', which can't be true if they're DVCPRO-HD, can it? Anyway the 'temporal compression' seems to be blocking the conform in CT, as well as the DFCPRO FRC in FCP.
So I tried importing the files from the Firestore thru an older version of FCP (5.1.4) that I have on my PowerBook (the problems described above are on my Mac Pro). I then copied these files out of the capture folder over to the Mac Pro, and sure enough: no problems with 'temporal compression'. The files were all marked as "maximum quality" and were allowed to be conformed from 60 to 24 in CTools, and have dupl frames removed using the FRC as needed.
So something appears to be broken with FCP 6.0.3 and how it imported this particular set of files on the Firestore.
I should note that if I hadn't tried to conform or FRC these files, I might never have noticed that there was a problem - they behaved as normal 720/60 files when just viewing them.

Kona DVCPro HD to HDCAM Cross-Convert Question for Shane Ross

Hi Shane (Or anyone else whose done this)... Shane posted the comment below at Creative Cow Oct'06:
Quoting Shane: "...because with FCP I can capture DVCPRO HD 720p 23.98 and edit at full resolution. When I lock picture I can, with the use of a Kona 3, cross convert to 1080p 23.98 via the hardware and output to HDCAM."
GREAT! I want to mimic this workflow!!! I have a completed project that was edited as above in FCP (based on your creative cow video tutorial). I shot with the HVX200.
1. Are you happy with the cross-converted 960X720 DVCPro HD footage to 1080p 23.98 quality? I'm assuming this is 1920X1080...
1b. Why not 1280X720? The original .mxf. Seems like that would provide better resolution . What am i missing?
2. Any Artifacting/aliasing? How did titles and transitions hold up? Did the reds bleed?
3. Are there any new advances that you've come across that i should look into as well?
4. And, can you be more specific about how you did question # 1. What codec; Does it come with the card or is it in FCP? What VTR do you suggest?
5. Can i do the above with a BlackMagic card? Which one?
6. What am i forgetting to ask?
Big fan, your posts have saved me hours of headaches over the last 5 months. Cheers...
Hayden
Mac Pro 2.66, 2GB ram, 250GB system, 1TB internal raid, ATI x1900xt and NVidia 7300GT Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Mac Pro 2.66, 2GB ram, 250GB system, 1TB internal raid, ATI x1900xt and NVidia 7300GT Mac OS X (10.4.8)

1. Are you happy with the cross-converted 960X720 DVCPro HD footage to 1080p 23.98 quality? I'm assuming this is 1920X1080...
Absolutely. It looks great. But, this is HDCAM, so it is anamorphic HD...1440x1080. Since DVCPRO HD is anamorphic as well...it all works out.
1b. Why not 1280X720? The original .mxf. Seems like that would provide better resolution . What am i missing?
The network delivery specs require a 1080p 23.98 master on HDCAM or D5. They chose that because you can convert that into anything.
2. Any Artifacting/aliasing? How did titles and transitions hold up? Did the reds bleed?
No artifacting or aliasing whatsoever. Titles and transitions all held up. No bleeding in the reds.
3. Are there any new advances that you've come across that i should look into as well?
ProRES...that will come with FCP 6. I'll be playing with that codec when I get my hands on it.
4. And, can you be more specific about how you did question # 1. What codec; Does it come with the card or is it in FCP? What VTR do you suggest?
It was really VERY simple. The Kona 3 has an option in the Kona control panel to cross convert 720p to 1080p. We chose that. Then we blacked the first 3 min of the tape, then used EDIT TO TAPE to output. The card did everything. Not sure about the model of the VTR...it was the Sony HDCAM deck (not HDCAM SR).
5. Can i do the above with a BlackMagic card? Which one?
I don't know if any of the Blackmagic cards can cross convert. You'll have to ask them.
6. What am i forgetting to ask?
Where you can send the check for all the workflow advice I am giving to you (and everyone)
Also, how did we deal with our downconverted masters we were also required to deliver. While the network wants an HD master, they don't air HD. They air in SD from a digitbeta master. We had to do a separate output to digibeta with all the graphics properly sized for letterbox output.
Shane

Should I convert what I did from DVCPro HD codec to ProRes?

I'm new to this so forgive me for my ignorance...
I've been editing HD video footages shot in PANASONIC HVX200 P2, shot in 23.976fps... Now that I'm almost done, I've been talking to a lot of people (including COLORISTS that I spoke to). They are asking why I did not use APPLE PRORES 422.
QUESTION: Should I convert what I did from DVCPro HD codec to ProRes? If YES, what's the easiest way for me to do this without starting from scratch. Is there an easy step in FCP that I can do to recapture from my RAW P2 files? If there is a way, will my existing sequences work fine if I just recapture raw files?
WHAT I HAVE:
RAW P2: from Panasonic HVX
Editing: Final Cut Pro 7
A/V FCP preset settings: DVCPRO HD 1080pa24
BTW, everything is fine with what I have but a couple of people I spoke with said I'll have better quality using Apple ProRes. Doing some test stuff, I noticed DVCPRO HD captures in 1280x1080, AND if I capture from APPLE PRORES it's 1440x1080. Since I'm not an expert on this, I'm not sure if the difference would be beneficial to what I'm doing.
I'm working on an indie digital movie hopefully for digital projection.
Thanks for the help!

First just a wee bit of advice .. you say in your post that you have FCP 7 - this is the FCPX forum you will always get faster maybe even better responses if you post in the Final Cut Studio forum which includes FCP 7. That said ..I will try to help ..
Your HVX200 captures onto the P2 card as DVCPRO HD (4:2:2) which is a compressed format not really intended to be an editing friendly codec .. (better than many others but still not ideal). When you ingest it into FCP 7 the Log and Transfer window has a wee preference tab in which you can set the codec .. I would use ProRes 422 or ProRes 422 (LT) if space is an issue. The incoming 'Transfer' is then decompressed and coded to ProRes 422 .. The main advantage is the ease of edit with no loss of quality.
Jim
http://www.panavision.co.uk/pdf/downloads/equipment-info/other/panasonic-ag-hvx2 00-faqs.pdf

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