COPA Condition & Costing sht

Hi All
In COpa, valuation usingCondition table/ access seq, condition type & condition record. is only for manual planning..??
No actual record flow over this..?

You could use it for actual data too. Example - You could calculate % bonus or commission directly in COPA using a new value field based upon actual sales coming in from other modules.
- Jayesh

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COPA condition record with quantity scale value

Hi Expert,
My client wants to calculate value of AIrport Ground handling charge based on number of landing. My client has entered into an agreement with GH service provider where cost varies with the number of landing. for example
cost for first 100 landing at a location will be Rs 2000. then Cost of 101 to 200 is Rs 90.
So in case to total landing for a month amounts to 110 number. the expense to be booked would be
100*2000 = 200000
10* 90     =       900
Total             200900.
Can this be done   through COPA condition record feature? If yes How
Thanks in advance
Pankaj

Hi Sreedhar,
                 I am quite surprised with this requirement from the customer, Anyways this cud be acheived by the following ways...
1.The condition in the pricing procedure shpuld not be a mandatory condition.
2.In the pricing condition settings you need mainatin the entry 'D' in the manual entries field.
3.Create a condition record for the codition type maintain null values and save the cond record.
4.Create a sales order and check the results..
Lemme know if you got the solution you required.
Regards,
Girish

Copa and cost acct document

hi,
need advice on the below.
1) during migo and miro, if there is price difference, system will create profitability analysis document. this is directly go to copa. may i know where is the customising to have this hapen?
2) in migo and miro, when there is a price difference, system will create both copa and cost accounting document. why?
thanks

1) during migo and miro, if there is price difference, system will create profitability analysis document. this is directly go to copa. may i know where is the customising to have this hapen?
In OKB9, we activate the indicatior "PRFSEG" and in KEi2, we assign the cost element to a value field in FI transfer structure
2) in migo and miro, when there is a price difference, system will create both copa and cost accounting document. why?
Cost accounting document is statistical while copa document is real.
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Change COPA from costing based to account based

dear friends,
one of our clients is upgrading from 4.6C to ECC 6.00. as part of this upgrade they want to change the COPA from costing based to account based.
Whether this can be done?
If yes, how it can be done and what all precautions need to be take care of?
If no, what are the reasons due to which it should not be done?
thank you for the help.
bajee prasad

Hi,
Let me try to answer to get full points from you. It is a very tricky question.
You can add Account based COPA in addition to Cost based COPA. It is advisable not to delete Cost Based COPA.
Go to Tr. Code KEA0. In the Data Structure Tab, click the change button. Now you can tick the Account based type of PA.
Then go to Environment tab, click the activation button. System will run for some time and both the types of PA gets the environment. These changes are not transportable. You need to do it by opening the system. You can test this in your quality system and then try in Production. I caution that you need to take a backup of the system so as to meet any worst scenario. All the best.
Cheers,

Third Party Sales Order in COPA - adjusted cost

We have a third party sales order which creates the Preq and then the pruchase order. We have statistical conditions on the purchase order. We have switched the billing relavency on the item category TAS to a B to allow billing before the invoice recipt from the oversees vendor. Billing block is on the order until inbound delivery is updated.
A purchase order is created with statistical conditions for an accrual amount (palletization charge). When the goods receipt is performed against an inbound delivery and the billing block is removed, a customer invoice is created and the correct value, cost plus the accrual amount, posts into the customer billing document vprs condition and posts accordingly to co-pa.
The issue is that when the invoice receipt is performed against the purchase order, the normal FI document is created against the vendor and gr/ir account. However, at this time an adjustment to the vprs is posted against the original billing document vprs condition for the statistical condition on the purchase order. This adjustment to the vprs condition then creates a copa document which reduces the cost of goods sold value field.
Any ideas on how to prevent this adjustment to the co-pa cogs value?

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
Kapil

COPA Report- Cost Elements

Hi All,
We have done the required configuration for COPA. We have created a COPA (Costing Based) report as well. The client wants this COPA report to be run for the first quarter of 2008 i.e. April 2008 to June 2008.
However, discount values for the said period are not flowing to this report.
Verification reveals that, no cost element is created for "Discount Given" GL Account. Hence, only revenues, from billing document, are being posted to CO area. The same values are updated in COPA also.
As per my knowledge, unless Cost Elements are created values won't flow to CO and COPA.
Can anybody help me to overcome the problem. . . ?? i.e. How to get the values in COPA report for the said period . . .
Thanks in advance . . .
Regards,
Ravi Kumar

Hi
Your understanding is perfect we need a cost element for transfering the data to CO and COPA.For flow of values to COPA from SD we need to make the following config.
Create the GL account with cost element category 11 or12
Map the discount condition type to COPA value field.
Also it is very diffucult to identify the discount region wise customer wise etc.Since it is posted to one GL account.
To overcome come this issue I guess the only option is to cancel the billing documents,maintain the config and the again create the billing documents.As you said the volume of transactions are high you can consider using LSMW for cancelling and recreating the billing documents.
Regards
Sandy.

COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED IN COPA - MARGINAL COSTING?

Dear members,
I need to confirm the following:
COPA provides profitability based on Cost of Sales and not Cost of Goods Manufactured (COGM) for the period.
I need to confirm if this is possible in a COPA report:
SALE as per Billing
COGS:
Material Costs (as per costing key settings in COPA) relevant to sales
Activity Costs:
Labor (cost for the period)
Overheads (cost for the period)
For activity cost if I take the data available from the value fields, it will be relevant to Cost of Sales and and not COGM.
Firstly is it possible to call up cost elements and cost centers in COPA report painter (costing based COPA)? If I can, I take this cost as posted in cost element (primary) and cost center (for my overheads and labor costs) then it provides me cost for the period. But will it show me that cost by SKU (Finished Material)?
If the above is not possible please suggest how can I get Marginal Costing in COPA?
Regards.
MAK

Hello MAK,
Right, you can use both form of reporting simultaniously. No consequenses, but every time ou need to change the type in KEBC.
But while getting requirement from client you need to make sure which type suites the most. This will yield better report.
To achive Marginal costs results you can go for the Costing based report. becase you need to analyse the pattern of change of total cost over period of time.
Ex: Period 01 Period 02 Period 03 P............................
Total revenue:
-Total Cost :
Contrbution Margin:
Hope this helps
Regards
Ajith

How to get latest condition cost at GR for a material

Hi SDN's,
At the time of GR creation in MIGO, I need to get the latest additive price for the material instead of Purchase Order creation date additive price.
Example: PO creation on 01June2008
PO number : 01234
Addtive cost(condition record) : 2$
GR is creating on today (23 July2008)
PO number : 01234
Addtive cost(condition record) : 3$
So system should consider latest additive cost 3$(GR creating date) now it is taking the PO creation date additive cost 2$.
How to achieve this???
Thanks in advance..
Regards,
Rahul

in that case u have to get the document amt of that accouting Document of PO invoice.
how --->
get the IR number from EKBE
CALL FUNCTION 'FI_DOCUMENT_RECORD'
    EXPORTING
      I_AWTYP            = 'RMRP'
      I_AWREF            = W_AWREF1----->IR of Po
      I_AWORG            = W_GJAHR1----->year
    I_AWSYS            = ' '
    I_AWTYP_INCL       = ' '
    I_AWTYP_EXCL       = ' '
    I_BUKRS            = ' '
    TABLES
      T_DOCUMENTS        = T_DOC.--->here u get the accouting document number.
Regards
Prabhu

Costing COPA and cost element category '1' for Revenue and COGS

Hi,
In my SAP environment historically Revenue GL accounts were created as cost element with category '1' (costs) and are being posted against cost centres. I know it is not SAP best practice, but it has been working like that in here for years. We have not activated and used COPA so far.
I am currently analysing options of implementing costing based COPA. I wonder if the fact that Revenue and COGS accounts are created as cost element with category '1' should cause any issues with COPA.
I know that in a perfect world it should be '11' for revenues and '12' or no cost element for COGS, I just hope we can leave CE category '1'.
Thank you,
Karol

Hi Ajay,
Thank you for explanation. I feared it would cause issues. However, I checked with one company code that has active COPA.
It has two Revenue accounts: one set as '11' , which is used for most automatic SD postings and other one with '1' category which is 'Other revenues' - sometimes used for automatic postings (configured in VKOA for services) and often used for manual revenue postings.
What I noticed is that documents posted for this 'Other Revenues' were posted against cost centre but also profitability segment was populated. However, it was only populated with sales quantity, no Revenue value field was updated. It must have been configured so it does not show error in COPA but update is not complete in PA table. No COGS split value fields are updated as these postings refer to services.
What I also obseved is that all COGS accounts are set as '1' and are linked to cost centre. But this seems to not affect COPA and it creates COPA document with correct COGS split into cost component category value fields.
So I assume this is only issue for Revenue accounts with '1'. COGS can be left with '1' for time being.
Do you know which config for Revenue account with '1' might have stopped COPA from giving error while posting invoices in SD?
Thank you,
Karol

Trading goods MM Conditions into COPA ( Condition wise)

Dear Experts,
Any possibility is there to get the MM Pricing conditions into COPA like SD Conditions with out activating IS Retail Module.
Any alternative method or MM condition Types into COPA.
Regards,
Goda

Hi,
Yes, it is possible to post values into Value fields of PA by assigning the MM Conditions in KE4IM like what we do for SD conditions in KE4I.
Trust this helps much!
Cheers!

Cost of sales flow in COPA and its detailed breakdown cost component f

Hi ,
we have a requirement that we need details about what makes cost of sales numbers in COPA.
i know the our VPRS value is flowing into COPA as COGS but now we want that we should have ite detailed breakdown as per cost components.
can you please tell me detailed configuration steps to make this happen so that we can create a new COPA ke30 report which gives us the breakdown of the COGS numbers.
one more requirement is that for purchase parts our client is maintaing price PB00 condition and some other conditions like brokerage, freight etc in the info record for those materials and they want that all these conditions value should add up to show the COGS value for these purchase parts in the COPA report.. how do we do that?
please reply soon...
Thanks in advance,
Gurjit

Hi Balaji
Which cost elements are you talking about? You can directly make FI postings to COPA in F-02 by clicking on "Prf Seg"
Note that a cost element will either be posted to COPA or Cost Center or Internal order or WBS element... Real posting happens only to one of these...
Out of these, some Cost Centers merge into COGM/COGS i.e. Std cost and this is reflected as COGS.... The variance is posted as variance in COPA
Some cost centers like Marketing which do not form part of COGM/COGS, can be allocated from CO to COPA using KEU5...
This is how the values flow to COPA
Regards
Ajay M

Cost Elements Values flow to COPA

Dear Experts,
We are using Costing based Operating Concern. I am clear that how to get values from SD to COPA Value Fields, I.e. assignment of Value Fields with condition types. But my confusion is how to get the values of cost element and cost element groups to COPA Value Fields.
This is not my confusion its my client requirment.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle

Hi Balaji
Which cost elements are you talking about? You can directly make FI postings to COPA in F-02 by clicking on "Prf Seg"
Note that a cost element will either be posted to COPA or Cost Center or Internal order or WBS element... Real posting happens only to one of these...
Out of these, some Cost Centers merge into COGM/COGS i.e. Std cost and this is reflected as COGS.... The variance is posted as variance in COPA
Some cost centers like Marketing which do not form part of COGM/COGS, can be allocated from CO to COPA using KEU5...
This is how the values flow to COPA
Regards
Ajay M

Cannot bring material cost, labour, overhead to copa

Dear Forum,
Why it is saying that cannot bring material cost, labour, overhead to copa?
"In all the system COGS clearing account exists.......but for COPA, condition type VPRS is attached to cost element Cost of Goods Sold because you can not bring all the cost like material, labour, overhead into COPA.....so all procuring cost flows to VPRS condition type and in turn COGS is deducted from the sales revenue to derive Gross Profit...."
Thanks alot.

Hi
Please go throgh the below mentioned link
Cost Component Structure in COPA
Hope this will help you
Regards
Praveen P C

Cost is getting poste into COPA withh Debit Memo amount

Hi,
Value is only debit memo value. But still it is updating the the COPA with Cost.How can i solve this.
Thanks
Sunitha

Hi thanks for your help,kindly help me where can i check the SD condition type assignment to valuefield.
Thanks
Sunitha

Cost component split in copa

Hi,
I am looking cost component split in copa document ,
Price for FERT(FG) materil valuation will at manufactured plant level is Standard price(S) and Depo level Moving avg price(V) i am doing standard cost estimate
for that i have done ..setting.
1) cost component structure ( Raw material, reprocess cost, additive cost, and overheads)
2)Valuation Strategy (maintained with Point of valuation 01,02,03,04)
3)Costing key (Y01)
4)Assign Costing Keys to Material Types ( ROH and FERT, PV=01,02,03,04.)
5)Assign Value Fields , ( Operating concern & Value fields are Raw material, reprocess cost, additive cost, and overheads)
6)I have written copa report
Cost breakup i am geting when i maintained standard price of the material, but
when i maintain price indicator V (MAP) stock value will be different it depends on Goods movement, i am getting price converted standard price.
Is their any setting missing to fulfill the same ( meet the requirement if goods movement taken in consideration)
I am not getting proper cost split in COPA report.
Please help me i am stuckup.
Thanks in Advance
Regards.
Vinu
Edited by: vinutha1010 on Jun 17, 2010 7:08 PM

HI PietStrydom ,
thanks for your valuable replay.
could u tel me in detail..how can i achive in this transaction ..ie somthig like SCE access .
I have taken parameater in t.code KEPC (source = POV, Record type, material type, plant, Target = costing key, plant, type of error,
Regards.
Vinu,

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