COPA Report- Cost Elements

Hi All,
We have done the required configuration for COPA. We have created a COPA (Costing Based) report as well. The client wants this COPA report to be run for the first quarter of 2008 i.e. April 2008 to June 2008.
However, discount values for the said period are not flowing to this report.
Verification reveals that, no cost element is created for "Discount Given" GL Account. Hence, only revenues, from billing document, are being posted to CO area. The same values are updated in COPA also.
As per my knowledge, unless Cost Elements are created values won't flow to CO and COPA.
Can anybody help me to overcome the problem. . . ?? i.e. How to get the values in COPA report for the said period . . .
Thanks in advance . . .
Regards,
Ravi Kumar

Hi
Your understanding is perfect we need a cost element for transfering the data to CO and COPA.For flow of values to COPA from SD we need to make the following config.
Create the GL account with cost element category 11 or12
Map the discount condition type to COPA value field.
Also it is very diffucult to identify the discount region wise customer wise etc.Since it is posted to one GL account.
To overcome come this issue I guess the only option is to cancel the billing documents,maintain the config and the again create the billing documents.As you said the volume of transactions are high you can consider using LSMW for cancelling and recreating the billing documents.
Regards
Sandy.

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