Cost centre without business area
Hi All,
I have document splitting with business area and profit centre mandatory, along with this i have configured business area wise FSV in OBY6.
We have configured 10 business areas and 5 profit centres, but i have created cost centres without business area and i dontwant to create cost centres with business area becoz junk master data in system and no control to users. also i have done configuration in OKB9 for automatic posting expences account with the combination of valuation area-business area- & cost centre, but when we are posting any financial document though MM or SD transactions like PGI or MIGO for service, system is not allowing to post financial document without business area cost centres. Error "Business Area XXXX / Cost centre XXXX is not assigned".
After all analysis i came to know that, if we have cost centre with business area then only we can move with this set of configuration. Is it right?
In No. what need to be done. basically we dont want to create cost centres for all Business Area
Thanks in Advance,
Sahil
Hi,
If you are not ready to maintain BA in CC master you should write Substitution / you should maintain derivation rule for deriving business area.
Regards,
Viswa
Similar Messages
-
How to relate cost centre with Business area in MIRO
while doing posting in MIRO, the cost centre picked against one of the entries in GL account line is of another business area(of second plant). why its so? and how it happens.?how we can rectify it?
in FS00, the default cost centre assigned is of first BA(business area) so when we do miro with PO of first BA then its alright, but when we do miro of second BA PO then the cost centre picked is of first BA. so how we cam similarize the cost centre with PO of respective business area?\
so that when we do miro , the cost centre is picked automatically with related BAHi
In that case you can remove the cost center from FS00 and make entries in OKB9, under account assignment select option - 2 - BA is mandatory.
Regards
Amit
Edited by: Amit Sathe on Nov 8, 2008 12:55 PM -
How to Capture Multiple Cost centres and Business Unit information in a project?
Dear Experts,
With the help of UDA functionality in project super responsibility, I have captured Cost centre and Business unit information and this info will be used/reflected in CC and BU segments of all transactions gets recorded against that project.
Now, our user wish to have multiple cost centres and business units to be tracked in the same one project. How is this feasible? Below example describes my requirement in a summary, please advise.
An Indirect project is created when a defect on a machine reported from client's customer and all subsequent activities (purchases, travel to customer site to analyse and troubleshoot, purchases for any in-house analysis etc..involves costs spending internally) in resolving that defect/project involves 6 to 7 different departments (Sales, Tech Support, Quality team etc.,who actually work/travel and spend costs against project until defect resolution). And, each of the above departments will have 1 dedicated owner (project owners) to manage that project and each of these 6 or 7 owners owners will have their own cost centres (eg: 2345 - Sales team) against which they wish to see their transactions (travel, purchases during defect resolution) globally.
So, all I want to know is how can I make one single project to accommodate multiple cost centresand business unit information to be assigned using UDA? Please let me know if I am not clear.
Regards
VenkatI think you should use the expenditure organization on the transaction itself to derive the CC/BU. Have AA lookups and define AA rules where you look at a Exp Org to BU or Cost Center to derive accounting.
-
Hi,
I am trying to post one entry with B/S GL a/c as below:
Dr. 400001 - 1000 INR with Business Area 1000
Cr. 400001 - 1000 INR without Business Area
I.e., I am nullifying (the value) the Balances at the Business Area level, but system is taking the Business Area in the second line item also as below:
Dr. 400001 - 1000 INR with Business Area 1000
Cr. 400001 - 1000 INR with Business Area 1000 (the system automatically picking the Business Area from the first line item - which we dont want).
Could any body help on this ASAP?
Regards
JS
Edited by: JS on Aug 28, 2009 7:55 PMThe business area field will appear at the time of posting the transaction, because when you pick a GL account for posting the system will check in the field status group of the relevant GL account. Check in FS00 and find the field status then go to OBC4, there check in additional account assignment where you will fin business area as optional or required etc...
You can make the filed as suppressed. -
Cost allocations with business area info
Hi Expert,
Is there any way to allocate cost to cost centers, including business area ? i understand that the standard allocation process in SAP do not allocate to business area. How about manual cost allocation posting ?
Thanks.
Angel.Hi,
I have the following scenarios.
Scenario No. 1 (allocate cost within same cost center but different business area)
Cost center A with Business area 01 - $1000
to allocate the cost to :
Cost Center A with Business area 02 - $500
Cost Center A with Business area 03 - $300
Cost Center A with Business area 04 - $200
Scenario No. 2 (allocate cost in same business area to different cost center)
Further allocation base on scenario no. 1
Cost Center A with Business area 02 - $500
to allocate the cost to :
Cost Center B with Business area 02 - $300
Cost Center C with Business area 02 - $100
Cost Center D with Business area 02 - $100
Please advise if there is a solution on the above.
Thanks.
Angel. -
Allocation of cost from one business area to another business area
Hello friends,
Client Requirement: They have 5 business areas. one is for Head office and other 4 are business operations. Their head office expenses are booked under various cost centers in H.O Business Area. Now they want to allocate all H.O expenses to other business areas where business operations are carried on.
currently all allocations are made manually. now they want to incorporate in SAP.
is it possible to allocate the expenses which are booked under one business area to other business area???
pls give your ideas for how to allocate those expenses.....They didn't have profit centre. so i cann't go for that option
Each operation area has many cost centres and internal orders... i have to allocate the costs from the cost center to internal orders.... if it is a same business area there is no problem we can create assessment cylce and allocate the cost.... the problem comes only when the allocation needs from one business area's cost center to other business area internal orders
for that the solution might be create Secondary cost element As you said and by using assessment cycle we could allocate the costs...
vijay -
Business area accounting in OKB9 settings:
Hi All,
Business area accounting in OKB9:
1) Goto OKB9, and select one of the company code with cost element that has "2" in the Mandatory fields for detailed account assignments
2) Click on side path: "details per business area/valuation area"
3) At the top of the "General Account Assignment", there is a checkbox for "BAr In", with the following Help information:
Indicator: Account assignment business area has priority
Indicator that specifies whether the business area for the CO account assignment overrides another business area, which was also entered, or derived differently.
Questions:
1) Does anyone have any idea how this settings work?
2) Do you have any solid examples?
Thanks.Hello,
One should note that these are default account assignments.
1) Does anyone have any idea how this settings work?
Ans: It a technique by which system overrides any other business area and replaces with the business area defined here. With this, postings will go to this business area only.
2) Do you have any solid examples?: Example could be specific expenses such as e.g. strategy consulting expenses to be posted to a combination of particular cost element, cost centre and business area only.
Hope this helps.
Ambadas -
Assign Business Area to Controling area
Hi All,
Please tell me How we can Assign Contrling Area / Cost Centre to Business Area?
Regards
Ajit Gawade.Dear All,
when we have activated business area financial statement. the Business area is mandatory in Cost Center. Pls tell me how to deal with in the following scenario
Co Code: 1
Business Area: 4
Cost Center: 10
So in this scenario, will we create 10 costcenter or 40 cost center (10 Costcenter X 4 business area).
pls tell me which is advisable and why.
regards -
K088/I3000 CTR belong to business area 7210 not 7220
Hello SAP Guys,
Can anyone help on this bec error is happening on while I am doing Deprecation run through AFAB and also step step the task need to be done to rectify this error.
Plz see the error.
Message no. KI188
Diagnosis
Account assignment object K088/I3000, type CTR is assigned to business area 7210. You made an explicit assignment to business area 7220.
System Response
The posting row may contain only one business area.
Procedure
Perform one of the following actions.
Make an explicit assignment to business area 7210. To do so you must set the "Business area" field as entry-ready in Customizing.
Enter an account assignment object assigned to business area 7220.
Change the assignment of K088/I3000 to business area 7210. Note the document number and continue processing the document after changing the assignment.
Hinweis:
This message is sent as an error in the standard R/3 System. You can make the message a caution or deactivate it entirely in Customizing. Use the Implementation Guide under "Controlling: General" and choose Change message control. Enter area KI and message number 188.
If you deselect this message, the system does not issue an error message if the given business area differs from the business area of the account assignment object. The system always assigns to the business area of the account assignment object.Hi MArk,
Thx for your Reply.
K088 is our Controlling Area.
I3000 is Cost Centre which I assigned to My Depreciation G/L in OkB9
7210 and 7220 are Business area.
We are not using any Internal Order.
In Fact, here Business area is activated and I have put "2" indicator in the Assignment and there in Business area Details I have maintained the Valuation Area/ Business Area/Cost Centre . Also all Assets have Cost Centre and Business Area assigned appropriately.
Regards, -
Hi
We are currently on version 4.7c and have not activated business areas. There is a requirement from our Finance users to activate Business Areas now since some statutory reporting requires us to generate Locationwise Trial Balance in system. At present without business areas, we can only generate Company Level Trial Balance. We cannot use Profit Centre Accounting as we have not mapped Profit Centres to locations but they are mapped to the various brands that we have.
A lot of FI consultants have told us that we will be able to generate a location-wise TB using the NEW GL functionality in ECC 6.0 - can any of you give your views on whether we will be able to achieve this functionality with New GL without needing to activate Business Areas.
Thanks in advance.
Shobhana.hi
General Ledger Accounting (FI-GL) (New)
The central task of G/L accounting is to provide a comprehensive picture of external accounting and accounts. Recording all business transactions (primary postings as well as settlements from internal accounting) in a software system that is fully integrated with all the other operational areas of a company ensures that the accounting data is always complete and accurate.
Beyond fulfilling the legal requirements, General Ledger Accounting also fulfills other requirements for modern accounting:
- Parallel Accounting
General Ledger Accounting allows you to perform parallel accounting by managing several parallel ledgers for different accounting principles.
- Integration of Legal and Management Reporting
In General Ledger Accounting, you can perform internal management reporting in parallel with legal reporting. For this purpose, the Profit Center Accounting functions are integrated with General Ledger Accounting. Furthermore, you can generate financial statements for any dimension (such as profit center).
- Segment Reporting
General Ledger Accounting supports the segment reports required by the accounting principles IFRS (International Financial Reporting Standards) and US GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles). For this purpose, General Ledger Accounting contains the Segment dimension.
- Cost of Sales Accounting
You can perform cost of sales accounting in General Ledger Accounting. For this purpose, General Ledger Accounting contains the Functional Area dimension.
Features
General Ledger Accounting comprises the following functions for entering and evaluating posting data:
- Choice between group level or company level
- Automatic and simultaneous posting of all subledger items in the appropriate general ledger accounts (reconciliation accounts)
- Simultaneous updating of the parallel general ledgers and of the cost accounting areas
- Real-time evaluation of and reporting on current posting data, in the form of account displays, financial statements with different balance sheet versions, and additional analyses.
In this way, General Ledger Accounting automatically serves as a complete record of all business transactions. It is the central and up-to-date component for reporting. Individual transactions can be checked at any time in real time by displaying the original documents, line items, and monthly debits and credits at various levels such as:
- Account information
- Journals
- Totals/transaction figures
- Balance sheet/profit and loss evaluations
However, SAP still offers to choose between the New GL and the old Classic GL way of accounting.
There are certain limitations in the new GL and clients are adopting to the new gl concept.
New GL configs
If you are having multiple company codes in US / Europe - using multiple ledgers (leading and non leading) will be very helpful for reporting purposes like US GAAP / IAS / regulatory requirements of Europe etc.
Once you activate the New GL - a new nodes will be populated in SPRO. In the New GL configuration you can configure the ledgers etc.
Further, is it a new implementation or migrating to higher version from an existing version of SAP. If you are migrating from an exisitng SAP system - the process to be adopted will be different.
I am summarizing a few points on New GL:
1. New GL needs to be activated in IMG.
2. When Client chooses to implement New GL and if it activated new IMG and transactions are added to the menu path.
3. New GL has to be implemented for all Company Codes in an environment. It cannot be implemented for specific Company Codes.
4. Segments are a new concept in my SAP ERP. Segment and Partner Segment are created.
5. It is a unified world u2013 all the ledgers are at one place. In the classic system u2013 normal Ledger for GL, COGS, PCA Ledger SL etc are all separate.
6. Scenario: Term used with my SAP ERP 2004: identifies the fields that are updated. Eg. Profit Center Scenario.
7. If the New GL is activated u2013 Programs SAPF180 and SAPF181 are no longer there.
8. There is scope to use both old and the new GL. In such case all the Transactions will be available in the menu bar.
9. Summary Table: FAGLFLEXT.
10. Classic GL (GLT0) >> New GL activation (FAGL_ACTIVATION)
11. One version of the truth is stored in GL (Same valuation, No inconsistency, No reconciliation)
12. Supports different reporting purposes: (Legal reporting, Segment Reporting, Management Reporting).
13. Multi Dimensional analysis u2013 Account analysis, Drill down reporting etc.
14. Option to add Industry specific / Customer defined fields.
15. Meets International requirements. Supports simple cost accounting via distribution and assessment in GL.
16. Assignment to leading ledger:
FIN_CCA (Cost Center Update)
FIN_CONS (Preparation for Consolidation)
FIN_GSBER (Business Area Update).
FIN_PCA (Profit Center Update)
FIN_SEGM (Update of Segment)
FIN_UKV (Cost of Sales Accounting)
One Ledger is assigned the role of Leading Ledger and all Company Codes are automatically assigned to this Ledger. Group Accounting is mapped to this Ledger. Asset accounting and Controlling are posted to leading ledger.
Additional Ledgers are created for parallel reporting. Additional local currency to non leading ledger. Alternate fiscal year variants can be assigned. Assignment of scenarios.
Data Structures for New GL:
Document Header: BKPF
Affecting Leading Ledger: BSEG.
Affect only additional ledgers: BSEG_ADD.
Open Items remain unchanged. BSIK, BSIS, BSID, BSAK, BSAS, BSAD
Totals Table GLT0 is omitted.
Split Line Items/ Split Totals FAGLFLEXA/FAGLFLEXT
New Tables are FAGLFLEXA/FAGLFLEXT. Existing documents in BKPF/BSEG are used as basis for new Tables. During migration, document splitting is carried out according to Customizing.
Initially during migration no data will get posted to BSED_ADD.
for Business area configs ...see below link
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/FIBUSI/FIBUSI.pdf
nagesh. -
Business Area and Profit Center In Document Splitting
Hi,
We are using Business area and Profit Center characteristics for document splitting.
In one transaction, the Business area and profit centers are defaulted through the cost center.
The document is successfully split in respect of the business area, but the profit center is not filled, thereby giving error while posting.
Please suggest.Hi,
Actually, we have all three scenarios, profit center, segment and business area..
As suggested, we have checked all field status relevant.. profit center is optional in all cases..
Now, Pls consider the scenario without business area in document splitting characteristics..
If I post an expense, profit center is picked thru cost center and segment thru profit ctr. The vendor or bank line item inherits the characteristic values from the previous line item.
Now, in addition we have business areas in doc splitting characteristics.
Business area, again is populated thru cost centers, along with profit ctr and segment.
The business area gets correctly populated in the vendor line item.. but the profit center doesnt.
Please let us know the reason..
Edited by: Swapvik on Mar 23, 2009 4:07 PM -
Business Area wise finacial statements - P&L, Balance Sheet
Hi,
My client has a requirement to have business area wise Trail Balance. In OBY6, business area financial statements tick has been done. So it is asking business area in cost objects. Plants are assigned to business areas. But still, I am able to post Balance sheet account to Balance sheet accounts without business area. I thought making business area mandatory for all G/Ls in OBC4. Then I have to write many substitutions and I may lose advantage of F.5D which gives business area basing on other P&L line item.
What needs to be done?
Can someone help me to suggest what exactly needs to be done to get Business Area wise Trail Balance.
We have not activated document splitting functionality. Please suggest the way without document splitting and New G/L functionalities.
Regards,
Saidarao
Edited by: saidarao G on Nov 22, 2011 7:47 AMHi,
You if want business area wise finanancial statements go to the this tranction code F.01
Regards
Mastan Reddy N -
FI: Business Area and profit center Issues
Hi Sap Gurus
Could you please help me with the following error
We have business areas defined as 1001 so on to 1006 and we have defaulted the profit center and business areas in the cost center master data and when I am booking expenses pertaining to two different business areas cost center for ex:-
001 31 1001 0000200055 A & A Holdings 14.000,00-
002 40 1001 0076003000 PlacemtRecruit Chrg 10.000,00
003 40 1002 0076003000 PlacemtRecruit Chrg 4.000,00
The system is throwing up the following error
Balancing field "Profit Center" in line item 001 not filled
Message no. GLT2201
Diagnosis
The field Profit Center marked as balancing is not filled with any value in line item 001, even after document splitting.
System Response
The document cannot be posted.
Procedure
First check your entries.
Additional causes could be:
u2022 No value can be derived for this field from the current document data.
u2022 You have entered a document type that is not designed for this business purpose.
Can someone provide a solution please as this is go live critical for us now
Thanks in advance
PSNGHi,
Actually, we have all three scenarios, profit center, segment and business area..
As suggested, we have checked all field status relevant.. profit center is optional in all cases..
Now, Pls consider the scenario without business area in document splitting characteristics..
If I post an expense, profit center is picked thru cost center and segment thru profit ctr. The vendor or bank line item inherits the characteristic values from the previous line item.
Now, in addition we have business areas in doc splitting characteristics.
Business area, again is populated thru cost centers, along with profit ctr and segment.
The business area gets correctly populated in the vendor line item.. but the profit center doesnt.
Please let us know the reason..
Edited by: Swapvik on Mar 23, 2009 4:07 PM -
Cost centre report with all GL expense accounts
Hi Gurus;
Can you please give a cost centre report that gives all GL expense accounts with the correponding Cost centres or functional areas ni the next column?
Example:
Column A B C D
GL 12005 Cc 52001 Amount 100 function area 1000
That is without expanding the report gives you in total amount per requested period in the format shown.
The report should tally with Trial balance for all expense accounts.
Thanks
LameckHi
Did you check the available reports in cost center accounting ?
Also check the report layout and check the desired fields.
Now you could see whether they match or not your requirement.
If not also, you could add fields from the options.
If nothing works, create a Z Report.
reg
suresh -
Hi!
One particular activity was set DLFL and in the Activity- assignment field it is asking for Business Area. The field has greyed out. It is not allowing to remove the deletion flag either.Your help in this regard shall be appreciated. I tried with CJ02,CJ07 or CJ12. No use...
MRDhi,
see oss note 517253
You have subsequently activated business area balance sheets for a company code that is relevant in the network/WBS element. If there are already actual costs for the network, network activity or WBS element, the business area is then no longer ready for input. In the detail screen of the assignment data, the system generates an error message in the case of an initial business area, although the corresponding field is not ready for input.
SAP does not recommend you to subsequently change the business area in an object (network, network activity, WBS element) that has actual costs.
It is the case, for example, that CO documents written before the subsequent change do not contain the business area and therefore deviate from future documents with business area.
During the subsequent implementation of the business area balance sheet, the correct procedure is to close existing networks and projects posted to without business area and to create new networks and projects with business area to which the future postings are made.
Now the business area is still maintainable once for networks, network activities or WBS elements that are already posted with actual costs. This is then set to 'No longer changeable' immediately after the entry of the business area.
1. The corrections of Notes 507457 and 514782 are a prerequisite.
2. Implement the attached program corrections.
Maybe you are looking for
-
Possible to record solo automation from a MIDI controller?
I am using a Novation SL MKII midi controller with Automap in Logic Pro 9. I am trying to figure out how to record the solo automation feature from the MIDI input. I select the track, and then select the 'Solo' section from the automation tools. I
-
Is it possible to import a SWF with a transparent background into Catalyst?
Hi, Here's what I'm hoping to happen. I've created presentation in Catalyst and I was hoping to import an animation I created in Flash into the title screen of the presentation in Catalyst. Problem is, I don't want the background from the SWF to cove
-
How can I hide the preview content of the text on ios 5?
How can I hide the preview content of the text on ios 5?
-
Client proxy.. passing internal table to output.
Hi friends, I have created a proxy-JDBC scnario.. For this i created a datatype with 2 fields.. DT_Proxy_Outbound as complex type and 2 elements..and after that i have created a proxy class ZCO_MI_PROXY_OUTBOUND (Proxy class) ZMT_PROXY_OUTBOUND(str
-
How do I link two icloud emails to one?
I have my old email linked to my phone and my new email linked to iPad...Can you tell me how to merge them to one email and one icloud??