Cost flow to COPA

Hi All,
I understand that revenues flow into COPA from Billing my mapping SD condition types to value fields
But how do costs flow
By VPRS to value field
Or
FI ( PA transfer structure cost element ) to Value field
Also what is the significance of VPRS ( does it contain accurate costs ?)
Regards,
Reddy

VPRS will pull std. cost from the material master if Price control = S. So yes you can map VPRS to lets say STDPR in COPA...
However it will not be broken down by fix/ variable or other cost components.
For that you need to configure "Valuation" in COPA customizing.
Hope this helps,
Arif
Edited by: Arif Hussain on Nov 12, 2008 9:56 PM

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