Cost for a Batch

Hi,
How can i view the cost for a Batch in OPM.
We have a form in descrete manufacturing as WIP Value summary to view the cost for a Job.
is there any form in OPM 11.5.10.2?

Hi
There is no specific form available in OPM to view the cost of a Batch.
But there are two types of Costs can perform the batch cost, one is Standard costing and Average costing. To know the cost of batch we need to perform few steps then you can see the results of the batch cost.
If you want furhter more details on how to perform step to get cost of the batch, I could share with you.
Regards
Raj
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