Cost planning : subsequent detailing.

Hi experts
Please suggest the best cost planning practice for the below scenario:
My client is able to plan WBS's with idea of tentative costs for each package. He is unable to assign component at this stage since he will not have adequate master data.
So, he will plan tentative costs for WBS (Manual planning)
Later, he will keep adding components for the respective package, after gatting details and master data.
At this time, how to ensure that the initial planned cost for the WBS is subtracted with the cost added up due to activity/component which has been just included.
How this differentiation can be identified with help of CO versions.
warm regards
ramSiva

Hi,
You do your high level planning in Version 1. Whe you start detailing out, do it in version 0.At any point of time you can compare the cost of version 0 and 1.Also you can copy the cost of version 0 in any other version using CJ9FS and then futher continue planning in that version. Note that actuals are only posted in version 0.
Easy cost planning or WBS manaul planning can be used in Version1, where as you can use automatic network costing in version 0.
The other option is to capture snap shot version (through project version profile) in the project each time, so that you can know the cost during different phases of the project.
Hope this helps
Sarang

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