Cost VPRS in 3rd Party TAB scenario

Hi,
we are using 3rd party processing for some of our materials. In this case sales order triggers the purchase requistion and hence purchase order. Then for TAB, do MIGO and then we post invoice verification for this GR. Then we create delivery and finally billing to customer. Now the problem is that in Billing, VPRS is still taking the value of Sales order VPRS value Hence the cost appearing in Billing is not accurate.
Hence the profit margin calculations are not correct.
Can anyone suggest the way to populate the value of MIRO in VPRS while billing?
Interestingly, when using TAS scenario, we are getting the MIRO cost in Billing into VPRS but not so for TAS...
Thanks

Hi,
Inbound delivery is one way of doing it but in our case, the vendor would deliver the goods at out plant and we simply take the stocks into out inventory by MIGO. Even In inbound delivery process, we do goods receipt from the delivery doc itself (hence equivalent to MIGO)
Now the Vendor sends the invoice in hard copy and we go MIRO w.r.t the PO issued earlier. Now logic says that whatever value we pass in the MIRO should be the actual cost of the product and should be picked up in VPRS in the billing doc for our customer.....
I dont know whether i have been able to explain this or not.
And to your question of using TAB instead of TAS....TAB we are using for some vendors who would not deliver directly to our c/s (like in TAS) but would deliver to our plant and we in turn would deliver to ur c/s.

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Please clarified your requirement here, you mention that you wanted to valuated COGS at actual cost of PO? That sound more like actual costing here and what is the reason for this requirement?
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