OBYC- 3rd Party sales

Dear Friends,
Weu2019re configuring 3rd party sales scenario. In VA01 sys was giving err: u201CNot possible to determine a consumption accountu201D. We removed this err by assigning a G/L in OBYC-> GBB-> COA-> 0001VAX3100. Although the error was solved. But our concern is that from which setting the system is picking the key u201CVAXu201D? It was not mov. typ 601. Mat. Type is HAWA.
Plz help.
Thank you.

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Third Party order processing in Sales
Third party order in Sales (in case of external procurement)
In this business scenario Company A accept the sales order of customer and asked third company/Vendor to deliver the goods and bills you. Subsequently you raise the invoice to the customer.
In this scenario Material type plays important role. While creating material in material master , material type to be selected as Trading goods and Item category group is BANS in sales :Sales org 2 tab and Procurement type to marked as F in MRP 2 Tab.
Item category - TAS - Maintain Billing relevance in VOV7 as F.
Schedule line category- CS-This is standard schedule line category is provided by SAP for Third party Sales.If you need to change, copy it and make necessary changes.
CS triggers purchase requisition automatically in the back ground when save the sales order.
Assignment - CS to TAS in VOV5 and TAS to your order type in VOV4.
Company A creates Sales order and Saves it. As soon as it is saved Purchase requisition is created in the back ground (Due to schedule line category)and authorized person converts it to purchase order and ask vendor to supply the goods to the customer. The vendor sends the bill to the company A. Company verifies the Invoice and raise invoice to the Customer.
The sequence of T-codes is VA01- ME21N- MIRO-VF01
It is assumed that MM and SD module are in place.
Regards
Raja

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In 3rd party sales error -consumption a/c not assigned to PO auto a/c assig

Dear Friends,
while creating va01 for 3rd party sales , error -consumption a/c not assigned to purchase order automatic account assignment.
i need to do obyc setting for gbb in need to select a/c modifier -what is that ?
SO is a cost object.
Reg
nagesh

Hi,
Please review the following notes for more information:
550388 FAQ: Customizing of third-party and individual Pos
210997 Accnt assignmt categoriesin third-party and indiv.P
On creating Purchase order for requirement created for a customer sales order stock, if the customer sales order stock is not valuated, this means a Consumption ( GBB ) account is involved here. If the posting is a consumption account, SAP allows the user to decide whether it should be autotmatically or manually entered. Because of this option, system need this account to be set with Field 'Automatic posting only' to ' '.
With this field 'Automatic posting only' setting to ' ', whether the account can be automatically or manually entered is then controlled by the field status in the PO creation. If you do not want the user to enter the account manually, then this account should be set to display mode in PO.
If the customer sales order stock is valuated, then in General business process, this would involve a BSX ( material account )
postings. Normally this is automatically derived during PO creations. No manual enterring is allowed. Thus if it is correct to set this account with field Automatic posting only' setting to 'X' in FI settings.
Please read the note 37563.
Please check if note 842977 is present in your system.
regards
Waman

3rd party sales order (GL posting)

I have posted this thread in Sales forum but did not receive answer. need help urgently.
i have configured 3rd party sales order where when user enter item category as TAB, PR will automatically be created and GR goes into sales order stock in MMBE.
however, user wants the COGS during GI for this 3rd party sales goes to a separate GL account.
where can i maintain the GL account?
i have tried using obyc and simulate it in omwb however, it affects even the normal sales order since it follows the standard key combination. i'd like to know where to maintain the GL account when the stock is issued from the sales order stock in mmbe.
when i simulate through omwb, and enter the movement type 601, there seems to be 1 option for sales order (GD delivery sls.ord.) however not sure where to maintain the GL for this option.
many thanks.

Hi,
As per MM scenario While creating the Purchase Requisition manual or automatic system need to select Account assignment " 1 " Third-party" after Purchase order will generate based on PO receiving the good but in this scenario the material will dispatch in customer direct so inventory will not update
please cross check the config setting in this area SPRO->Sales and Distribution -> Basic Functions -> Account Assignment/Costing -> Revenue Account Determination

How to Prevent Workflow when Automatic PO created in 3rd Party Sales

Hello,
We have set up a special Sales Document Type for the purpose of 3rd party sales. The item category is TAS, so the Purchase requisition gets created automatically.
The problem is that when the Sales Order is saved, it starts a Business Workflow and sends an email to our EDI Technical Team. We want to disable the workflow functionality in this sales document because it is not needed.
Is there a way to disable ALE for a sales document type?
Thanks very much!

Hi,
Please review the following notes for more information:
550388 FAQ: Customizing of third-party and individual Pos
210997 Accnt assignmt categoriesin third-party and indiv.P
On creating Purchase order for requirement created for a customer sales order stock, if the customer sales order stock is not valuated, this means a Consumption ( GBB ) account is involved here. If the posting is a consumption account, SAP allows the user to decide whether it should be autotmatically or manually entered. Because of this option, system need this account to be set with Field 'Automatic posting only' to ' '.
With this field 'Automatic posting only' setting to ' ', whether the account can be automatically or manually entered is then controlled by the field status in the PO creation. If you do not want the user to enter the account manually, then this account should be set to display mode in PO.
If the customer sales order stock is valuated, then in General business process, this would involve a BSX ( material account )
postings. Normally this is automatically derived during PO creations. No manual enterring is allowed. Thus if it is correct to set this account with field Automatic posting only' setting to 'X' in FI settings.
Please read the note 37563.
Please check if note 842977 is present in your system.
regards
Waman

3rd Party Sales::Create Automatic PO in Item Cat vs. in SL Catgy

Hi All,
I've a query regd the 3rd party sales order processing.
There is an indicator at item category level, we've an indicator 'Create PO Automatic'.
Also, at Schedule Line category level, for CS, we've indicators for Order Type as NB and Item category as 5(Third-party).
Can somebody explain the importance of each and the relevant settings required to configure 3rd party sales?
Also, how to configure to trigger automatic PO?
Rgds,
Raghu.

Hi,
PROCEDURE TO CREATE THIRD PARTY SALES
Step: 1
             Create Purchasing organization.
Path: Img--enterprise structureu2014definitionu2014materials managementu2014Maintain purchasing org.
Step: 2
             Assign Purchasing Org. to company code
Path: ImgEnterprise structureu2014Assignment Materials management-- Assign purchasing organization to company code.
Step: 3
             Assign purchasing organization to plant
Path: ImgEnterprise structureu2014Assignment Materials management-- Assign purchasing organization to plant
Step: 4
             Create purchasing group
Path: Materials Managementu2014Purchasingu2014Create purchasing group
Step: 5
              Maintain purchasing area
Path: Materials Managementu2014Purchasing-- Maintain Purchasing Area
Step: 6
             Maintain Purchasing Area Determination
Path: Materials Managementu2014Purchasing-- Purchasing Area Determination
Step: 8
Create Vendor Account Group
Path: Imgu2014Financial Accountingu2014Accounts Receivables and Accounts Payablesu2014
Customer Accountsu2014Vendor Accountsu2014Master Datau2014Preparations for Creating Vendor Master Data--Define Account Group
Step: 9
Assign Number Rangers to Vendor Group
Step: 10
Create Vendor
T-Code: XK01
Step 11:
Creeate Sales order VA01
Here note down the PR number
Step 12: Create Purchase Order
T-code: ME21N
Step 13.Release the PO. Number.
T- Code: ME29N
Step 14: Post Invoice Receipt
Use T- Code MIRO
Step 15:
Generate invoice VF01
Hope this will help.
Reward Point if helpful
Thanks,
Raja

The item is not relevant for billing. 3rd Party Sale

Hello, experts,
I have met a problem in 3rd party sale scenario. Here is the situation:
1. I have created a sales order using a 3re party item (item category: tas and billing type: order-related billing). And the PR is generated successfully at the schedule line level.
2. In the next step, I have created PO with reference to this PR.
3. As in my situation, the items are sent to customer by vendor directly, there is no need to maintain MIGO and MIRO.
4. I try to creat billing with reference to the sales order and here appears the error. The log shows:
"The item is not relevant for billing."
There are actually many threads in the forum and I have tried much of them.
I have checked firstly in VOV8 the sales order type->the order-related billing type for OR(standard sales order) is F2.
VOV7 the item category type->tas billing relevance: F (order-related billing)
VTFA the copy control->F2 with OR and in the item level, the item category tans is also maintained.
I can not decide where the problem is. Any idee?
Thanks,
Fan

Hi
3. As in my situation, the items are sent to customer by vendor directly, there is no need to maintain MIGO and MIRO.
This statement is absolutely wrong
MIGO is optional in third party transactions and MIRO is a Must
Third party item cat billing relevance is F
F: Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice quantity
Relevant for order-related billing documents based on the invoice receipt quantity (third-party business transaction). The system transfers the order into the billing due list only after the vendor invoice has been received and processed in the purchasing department. After the receipt of each invoice, a customer invoice is created for the quantity that appears on the vendor invoice. The order has status "Billed" until the next vendor invoice is received.
Item category TAS (Third party item) is set up with billing relevance "F" in the standard system.
This is the SAP explanation of F billing relevance
Maintain the copy control settings in VTFA as suggested by the other friend
Without MIRO you cannot invoice the customer in third party
Regards
Raja

One line item delivery for 3rd party sales order

Hello Experts,
We have configured a 3rd party sales order process where the PR gets created. We are using scheduling agreement(PO) and creating Schedule line and doing a GR for partial line items. The stock is recieved as a Sales Order stock.
But when i create a Sales Delivery the delivery document copies all the line items (ieven for the ones which we don't have GR) from the sales order and we have to manually delete the line items from delivery doc.
Is there a way i can restrict the delivery document to only copy the line items from the sales order for which the sales order stock is available? If so how can we do that?
Appreicate your help.
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Arpita Rani

Hello All,
We have configured a 3rd party sales order process. The schedule line category is configured with account assignment categoory as "M". when we are creating GR the Moving average price of the material is not getting updated.
But if i replace with "E" it is getting updated, but the CO-PA is not getting generated for Profitability segment reporting.--we need profitability segment reportng.
Can some one tell me how we can update the moving average price using acc. asssignment category type "M" at the same time the Profitability segement information is updated.
THanks in advance
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Can we create two POs for the same 3rd party Sales Order?

Hi MM experts,
Issue: Can we create two POs for the same 3rd party Sales Order
In Third party purchase process, first sales order created with a spl. item category and it creates the PR automatically with the Sales order material and Qty and this PR converted PO.
They got a pur.req. for sale order on same item for same delevery date. They did not get any warning msg. saying that a PO was prviously placed against this sale order.
How it is possible that we were able to place another PO? concern is that second PO was palced against SO which was already used & completed. they were able to place 2 POs for the same customer same delevery date. How it is possible?
If anyone face the same issue, please let me know if you have any answer to this questions.
Thanks in advance.
Suresh.

Suresh,
It is hard for me to give you a definitive answer since you have created a customized solution.
How it is possible that we were able to place another PO? concern is that second PO was palced against SO which was already used & completed. they were able to place 2 POs for the same customer same delevery date. How it is possible?
Normally, the system will not do this. A third party PR or PO will be 'account assigned' to the Sales order. SAP standard 3rd party will not create additional purchase reqs unless there has been manual intervention. Try searching for changes in the Sales order and changes in the original purchase order. They may give you a clue.
I believe the normal Item category for third party SO is TAS (I am working from memory here, I am not in front of a system). I don't know what ZTAG does. I confess I am not an SD expert. You might also want to post your question in an SD forum.
You mention two custom applications, ZMMPLAN and ZSTPMP. These somehow have functionality that is used to help you convert your PRs to POs. If I were in your position, I believe I would also look at these applications for clues to how they might be contributing to your problem. And please don't send me details about these apps. I will not comment on custom code in this forum.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Rgds,
DB49

Schedule line confirmation date for 3rd party sales( non stock item)

Hi ,
While creating an sales order i have a stock item and 4 non stock items . All the non stok items are similar to 3rd party sales as they are services . While created the sales order for the no stock item the confirmed schedule date is given as 12 days in the future or in one case after month .
Can someone please help me in understanding how the dates are being calculated . I havent created any PO for the non stock items.
I would like the confirmed date to be picked as the system date.

Hi,
There can be multiple reasons for this.
You have not mentioned the material type. Anyhow, first check Material Master
Purchasing view> GR Processing Time field
Sales / general Plant > Set up time and processing time field
If MRP views are maintained
In MRP2 View > Scheduling.
In case you do not want availability check to be carried out
Untick Availbility check and TOR check boxes in VOV6 for the schedule lines determined for these materials.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Sharan

Re: Differentiate Normal Sales vs 3rd Party Sales

Hi all,
The standard system would allow the creation of normal sales and 3rd Party sales under the same Order Type and same Billing Type. It is controlled using the item categories.
As such, I would like to understand how I can use the standard Sales or Billing Report to differentiate the normal Sales and/or Billing document against the 3rd Party Sales.
Please assist.
Thanks.
Rgds.

Hi,
The item category will be different for normal sales and third party sales.( TAN & TAS).
To differentiate the sales for normal & third party.
Create a query using VBAK ,VBAP, VBRK,VBRP and give input selection field as item category.
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Departure country determination for 3rd party sales order

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We are creating a 3rd party sales order and using dummy plants and dummy shillping point. we do not have plants abroad activated.
While creating the intercompany billing doc the departure country is not picked up correctly since we have dummy plant and shipping point.
We want the departure country to be same as suppliers country. and we do not know the supplier details at the point of sales order creation.
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As material is going from vendor to the customer directly. Whether we have to maintain some storage location saying vendors material ?
Regards,
Atul

Hi Atul,
There is no standard solution, But most of the clients follow these steps..
maintain vendor storage location or depository - This is similar to reqular storage location.
When vendor updates his stock on weekly basis update your stock in that storage location.
everything similar to regular storage location, but availability and other factors are not as accurate as clients own stock.
Some times clients even follow availability request form procedure too.. In which they will send a form/ just word document to reserve the stock at vendor location. SO will be on block for vendor approval...once they recieve approval from vendor, they will process document.
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How to do a 3rd party sales process

How to do 3rd party sales process.....
plz reply me with the full configuration.....

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save

Changes Allowed on the 3rd Party Sales Order when PO is created

Hello,
We have a requirement to change the Sales Order even if the PO is already created for teh 3rd party order. I am not sure which fields and what changes can we do if the PO is already created for the 3rd Party sales order.
Can you please guide me in pointing to the configuration or any user exit that we can control the field changes on the 3rd party sales order when teh PO is already created.
Thank you!
Chandrakant

Venu,
FIRST ANSWER THE BELOW TWO QUESTIONS.
1. Did you understand what Shiva has mentioned?
He has clearly mentioned that you can change the PO qty and in standard it self the same PO changed qty will be reflected in Sales order schduline lines qty, and he also mentioned that if this is not happening then advised to refer the Note 1361281.
2. Did you read the note?
It says that It will occur if the sales order line item is part of the delivery group or if you have set the complete delivery indicator for the sales order. And it also advised to apply the program code to over come the issue.
Please note: before commenting others just check once in system then talk, don't just blindly through the ball, it will not have good results.
Before also mentioned the same, but you still repeating the same.
Sorry Moderators that i have mentioned some lines in the Note here.
thanks,
Srinu.

Can't get my 3rd Party Sales Order to create the PO automatically...

I'm trying to get the 3rd Party Sales Order process to work and I would like it to create the PO automatically (it is already creating the requisition without issue). I have:
i) Set the Auto PO on the Item Category
ii) Set the ALE paramenters asociated with the Sales Org definition
iii) Set the Auto PO on the Vendor Master
iv) Set the Auto PO flag on the Purchasing tab of my NLAG material
v) Created a Vendor Info record
BUT I still don't get a PO being created automatically .... can anyone see where the problem may be?
Thanks.

Hi Dennis - I really appreciate the feedback but I started this thread with ....
I'm trying to get the 3rd Party Sales Order process to work and I would like it to create the PO automatically (it is already creating the requisition without issue). I have:
i) Set the Auto PO on the Item Category
ii) Set the ALE paramenters asociated with the Sales Org definition
iii) Set the Auto PO on the Vendor Master
iv) Set the Auto PO flag on the Purchasing tab of my NLAG material
v) Created a Vendor Info record
BUT I still don't get a PO being created automatically .... can anyone see where the problem may be?
I have since confirmed that I can trigger a PO creation by running ME59N BUT the PO is not created automatically when I save the sales order despite what the help text on the item category implies.
I think I have already done every you have suggested and even a little more, or maybe I'm missing something? Do I need to do something with ALE - turn something on perhaps? Have you actiually seen this functionality working? I'd love to hear from someone who has.
Regards.
Patrick

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