CR2 to DNG. Any loss of quality or funcionality?

Hi.
So, the same questions arise with me but I can't get a definitive answer...
1. Adobe Bridge CS3 (and I presume CS4 as well) will "Convert to DNG" upon importing from your card reader. It's a simple checkbox option. Will this function convert 5DMK2 CR2 files to DNG properly or do I need to use the standalone Adobe DNG Converter because only Bridge CS4 will do it right?
2. If I process a CR2 file in ACR and make adjustments, then convert the CR2 to DNG, what happens to my edits saved in the XMP sidecar? Does it come along for the ride or is the XMP file now ignored forever?
3. Are there any features/benefits/downfalls in converting to DNG first then processing it in ACR? Anything that a CR2 file offers that a DNG file does not? Is there an ACR function that is now grayed out or something?
4. Is the quality of a DNG identical to the CR2 file? Same file size too?
5. Will presets I've created in ACR to run against CR2 files also run against DNG files?
6. If I convert a CR2 file to DNG and open it in, say DPP, then make changes such as sharpening and noise reduction, then open that DNG in ACR, are those changes seen or ignored?
7. People have said "Convert to DNG. Who knows how long you will be able to read CR2 files." I'm not sure how this statement holds water -- the DNG format was only released in late 2004. It's not a long-standing standard. I could make the argument that both CR2 and DNG files have an equal chance of becoming obsolete or changing drastically. Thoughts about this?
I've worked with raw files and a 40D for a long time now and my workflow is great for me: Import into Bridge --> Edit in ACR. If I get the new 5DMK2 I would hate to lose this functionality and I'm willing to upgrade to CS4, but why bother if CS3 Bridge's "Convert to DNG" function will convert it upon import, or if the new DNG Converter will do a whole directory in a few minutes... but I need to be sure that I don't lose any quality or functionality by doing this... and, if I decide to convert a whole year's worth of CR2/XMP files to DNG for long-term compatibility reasons, I need to be sure that all my XMP edits come along for the ride. If not, that's hundreds of hours of work gone... I might as well export to hi-quality JPG.
Thanks,
-Dave

> It's a shame that an edited CR2 file contains the edit information embedded in the file instead of within an XMP<br /><br />DPP can store the adjustment in a parameter file, but other raw processors would not recognize that.<br /><br />> Many times I'd like to use, say, DPP to apply NR and Sharpening, but I'd like to use ACR for the rest<br /><br />You seriously misunderstand how this works. We are talking about <br />i parameters for the raw processor.<br />Here is a crop from the XMP parameters:<br /><br /><PRE><br />    xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/"><br />   <crs:RawFileName>40D01784.CR2</crs:RawFileName><br />   <crs:Version>4.5</crs:Version><br />   <crs:WhiteBalance>Auto</crs:WhiteBalance><br />   <crs:Temperature>2850</crs:Temperature><br />   <crs:Tint>+21</crs:Tint><br />   <crs:Exposure>-1.20</crs:Exposure><br />   <crs:Shadows>1</crs:Shadows><br />   <crs:Brightness>+10</crs:Brightness><br />   <crs:Contrast>+50</crs:Contrast><br />   <crs:Saturation>+15</crs:Saturation><br />   <crs:Sharpness>50</crs:Sharpness><br />   <crs:LuminanceSmoothing>0</crs:LuminanceSmoothing><br />   <crs:ColorNoiseReduction>0</crs:ColorNoiseReduction><br />   <crs:ChromaticAberrationR>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationR><br />   <crs:ChromaticAberrationB>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationB><br />   <crs:VignetteAmount>+20</crs:VignetteAmount><br />   <crs:VignetteMidpoint>50</crs:VignetteMidpoint><br />   <crs:ShadowTint>0</crs:ShadowTint><br />   <crs:RedHue>0</crs:RedHue><br />   <crs:RedSaturation>0</crs:RedSaturation><br />   <crs:GreenHue>0</crs:GreenHue><br />   <crs:GreenSaturation>0</crs:GreenSaturation><br />   <crs:BlueHue>0</crs:BlueHue><br />   <crs:BlueSaturation>0</crs:BlueSaturation><br />   <crs:FillLight>0</crs:FillLight><br />   <crs:Vibrance>+15</crs:Vibrance><br />   <crs:HighlightRecovery>28</crs:HighlightRecovery><br />   <crs:Clarity>0</crs:Clarity><br />   <crs:Defringe>0</crs:Defringe><br />   <crs:HueAdjustmentRed>0</crs:HueAdjustmentRed><br /></PRE><br /><br />LuminanceSmoothing and ColorNoiseReduction are the parameters for noise reduction. If DPP would do the parameters in this or some other but metaformat, ACR or other raw processors could interpret <B>the setting</b>. However, <b>the result would be ACR noise reduction</b>.<br /><br />In order to get the DPP noise reduction result, <B>you have to convert the raw file in TIFF or JPEG by DPP</b>.

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