Creating Multi-Angle Video?

hey All,
Blu-ray and some dvds have the abilty to do multi-angle video. I was wondering if there is anyway to create multi-angle video files for a media-less (no dvd/blu-ray) playback. Where the user could open a video file and click a button to get to the other angle?
Any help would be appreciated or how-tos.
thanks.

SU wrote:
… multi-angle video. … Where the user could open a video file and click a button to get to the other angle?
ask the experts at the Quicktime board
https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/quicktime?view=discussions
afair, at last the older Qtplayer app 7 offered a 'switchable' tracks/'angles' feature.
for switchable tracks on a website based video, helpful html5-gurus will explain that.
finally, FCPX doesn't - best to my knowledge - export multi track videos.
but it's 'versions'/alternatives feature
http://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0.6/#verbbd3587d
would allow a somewhat simple way to create a project in same 'structure' and length (to synch the diff tracks) but offering diff. shots.

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hi all,
i've spent almost three days working all the bugs out of a dvd with 10 multi angle tracks
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Message was edited by: claudia 639

claudia 639 wrote:
hi all,
i've spent almost three days working all the bugs out of a dvd with 10 multi angle tracks
(thats 10 different tracks with two different angles each).
after hours upon hours of tweaking i have it working fine in DVDSP simulator (perfect really, everything is so sweet!) only when I burn/build/format the project the multi-angle functionality is lost.
i've tried the dvds on two different players, and two different computers, even the same mac i built the DVD on and the second angle just doesn't seem to exist?
can anyone tell me if there is a setting i'm missing or... is the switching between angles something you can only do inside DVDSP simulator... some kind of bad joke on apple's part???
That's a very complex project to cut your multiangle chops on. Make a copy of the project and discard all but one of the tracks so you have something with fewer resources to juggle.
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just new here.
Just now I finished building a mixed angle dvd in SP4.
Simulated it in SP4 and it seemed to work.
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I think Apple has rushed this release out a bit too quickly. Lots of little bugs with this version.
---- 2nd post------
Just tried rebuilding it, with the Disc property inspector Angle on not set.
Same result.
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Thinking of going back to version 3 to finish this project properly.
grrrr. Not happy with Apple right now.
------- 3rd post-----
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Where with my own project the other angles can't be chosen and viewed here it does work!
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I tried a test project with just the part of the multi angle in my original project.
Set up a similar structure and tried it. NOP. doesn't work.
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Now if I were to encode the jpg's to mpeg2 before adding to the project this would mean I need over 3 hours of each, cut in 20 different spots that correspond exactly to the audio.
Now the quality of the audio is very important to me so I'm not willin to use any lossy compression scheme. The whole disc is really just for listening too and is of an audiophile nature. Now I understand AC3 does a pretty good job, which is fine for movies, but for my purposes I need it to be exact. So this means I would have to fit the 3 gigs of audio along with 6 HOURS of mpeg2 video encoded from the 2 simple jpg images that take up less than a mb themselves. This is simply too much data, I can't fit it onto the DVD.
What's nice is what DVDSP is suppose to do is convert the jpg's for you and they only then take up a very small amount of room, and stay on for the full 3 hours none-the-less.
So you see any workaround that envloves making the slideshow as video in FCP beforehand won't work because I'm going for 2 angles at over 3 hours with uncompressed audio.
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Ok so I don't neccesarily need to use jpg. The band logo is jpg but I can convert it...the black is just a slug from FCP exported as a still. What's the best format to use for what I'm trying to do? What has the best success rate for encoding? Also you mention having access to a decent encoder. For $1000 i was hoping that I was getting one in the package ... bewtween FCP, quicktime, compressor, or DVDSP ..it's rediculous that a decent encoder wouldn't be included... what would you consider a decent encoder ... and of the ones I have which one should I be using (for future projects involving video)?
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Has anyone successfully used DVD4 to create a multi-angle DVD?
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Hi There
I have created a mixed angle DVD that went to replication successfully but getting the mpegs right was very difficult. In the end I had to re-install DVDSP3 onto my system for two reasons 1) The only way my mpegs would work was if they were created thru Quicktime Mpeg Exporter which DVDSP4 removes, and 2) after I got it all working in DVDSP3 then tried to rebuild it in 4 it would not recognise my V2 or V3 angles - I didn't get any errors and it muxed ver quickly but only V1 was present. I have not been able to create a multi angle disc in DVDSP4 SD, even with mpegs that build successfully in 3.
The problem with all of Apple's encoders except QT Mpeg Exporter is that they create the occassional bitrate spike in both CBR and VBR, which will blow your encoding everytime in a mixed/multi angle project.
That said - here's how I exported my mpegs.
I made a QT movie of the complete V1 track (no cuts as Hal warned you about, they act as compression markers and force a GOP boundary) and placed it in a FCP timeline. Then added my chapter markers to the FCP timeline. Next, in a new vision track I added my mixed angle footage in the exact places where it is meant to come in and out, using the chapter markers.
Then I turned off the mixed angle footage and exported the mpeg of the entire V1 track using CBR 7Mbps closed GOP (Mpeg exporter is automatically closed GOP) and making sure that 'recognise chapters' box was ticked (can't remember exactly what its called). Once done I turned off V1 and turned on V2 then set my in and out points to the exact in and outs of each of my mixed angle tracks respectively, and exported these using the same settings.
When I dragged the mpegs into DVDSP and placed my V2 vision in I occassionally got a warning of GOP problems after a certain timecode, if this happened I only lost the last few frames of the clip which wasn't a problem in my project. Then tested and built and all was good - I then had to repeat the whole proccess again for an NTSC version which also worked.
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